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May 28, 2018 19:48
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I legit believe there will be a Maul movie within the next decade unless he gets a bunch of backstory in the Kenobi movie. More McGregor as Kenobi is a dumb spinoff I’m actually looking forward to, to be fair
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May 28, 2018 19:56
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xiw posted:I actually found the dialogue incredibly hard to hear in this movie - I haven't missed so many important lines since Interstellar. I noticed this too. My thought was maybe they were intentionally burying a few choice flubs by Aldehn in the mix to compensate for what was otherwise the best take given the circumstances/reshoots. Overall I enjoyed the movie, but the same as all of the other Disney SW movies they obviously never had a final cut to score properly less than a day before release so that aspect got pushed as far from the fore as is permissible. The music for these films now is as cookie cutter as having laugh tracks on sitcoms. Don't even need a live studio audience/band, just set up a soundboard and mash a few loops every twenty seconds.
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May 28, 2018 19:57
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one of the weirdest things about the Disney Star Wars is how mismanaged everything seems at like, a production level post TFA. like say what you want about TFA but the movie is polished to a mirror sheen. everything since has been kind of a mess in one way or another, mixed with the weird statement that they had no plan/arc planned out for the franchise post TFA and it’s like, what is going on over there. it feels like a bizarre level of gently caress it for such a massive franchise and investment
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May 28, 2018 20:59
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Even TFA was a clusterfuck of a production and post-production, considering Abrams and Kennedy were begging to have the movie pushed to May 2016, Iger refused because it had already been delayed once, post-production was frenzied (Nyongo said she had to go in five or six times to record her dialogue because Maz's character kept changing) and Abrams did a near-total re-edit of the whole thing like a month before release. That it feels as polished as it does is a minor miracle. If anything, Last Jedi is the one that went the most smoothly, considering Johnson had the final picture locked in the third week of September.
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May 28, 2018 21:08
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I legit believe there will be a Maul movie within the next decade unless he gets a bunch of backstory in the Kenobi movie. We have a canon death before ANH for maul, his movie would be even more useless than rogue one. At least solo gave us Donald Glover in some cool capes. I don't know if the hot topic crowd can sustain a movie.
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May 28, 2018 22:59
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Ingmar terdman posted:ok just checked to make sure this was the spoiler thread before posting disney stopped doing this bit because it was damaging the prestige of the lucrative star wars brand I'm not loving joking
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May 28, 2018 23:12
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Wheat Loaf posted:Maul didn't need to be kept around for the other movies but I think Dooku should have been in Episode I. Or just give his role to Mace Windu - Jackson's "bad cop Jedi" character seemed to only come about because he kept asking Lucas to give him more action, and even then it was pretty limp.
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May 28, 2018 23:19
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bushisms.txt posted:We have a canon death before ANH for maul, his movie would be even more useless than rogue one. At least solo gave us Donald Glover in some cool capes. I don't know if the hot topic crowd can sustain a movie. Who knows, the below got plenty of coverage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djo_91jN3Pk And there is some stuff to see - like how he survived but I am sure that's covered in comics and stuff. I'd like to say people like Maul - a lot.
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May 29, 2018 00:15
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do a loving Mace Windu movie you cowards if darth maul survives being cut in half and dropped 5000 feet on his head down a reactor tube im pretty sure Mace Windu could survive an attack that’s literally killed like no one in Star Wars ever
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May 29, 2018 00:19
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Cutting off a hand and being thrown out into the void may as well be a walk down the street for a Force-user I'm sure Mace Windu is bumming around who-knows-where doing who-knows-what He's probably chilling on some forest moon and playing some Pazaak
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May 29, 2018 00:46
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I still can’t get over the mention of Teras Kasi. Of all the awful references to the old EU that was something else.
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May 29, 2018 01:08
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Duckula posted:I still can’t get over the mention of Teras Kasi. Of all the awful references to the old EU that was something else. Only the most dedicated nerds would ever get the reference. I'm a huge dork and I needed to google it. That kind of subtle reference is fine, it's ridiculous stuff like the cartoon character Darth Maul reference that went overboard.
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May 29, 2018 01:30
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Mandrel posted:do a loving Mace Windu movie you cowards Sam and George both agree with this. I would totally be down for an origin story where it's mace dealing with the purple Crystal's evilness in his lightsaber, as a flashback while he's in hiding on some planet during order 66.
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May 29, 2018 01:46
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Mandrel posted:do a loving Mace Windu movie you cowards I disagree about giving him his own movie, but being a major character in an Obi Wan film would be nice.
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May 29, 2018 02:52
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A Lando movie is the needful, Donald Glover was pretty much the best part of Solo.
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May 29, 2018 03:10
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As much as I'd enjoy seeing Glover's Lando (and McGregor's Obi Wan) again, I don't want to see Lando: A Star Wars Story. These characters don't need origin stories. Put them in a real story like Rogue One or something. Preferably though, just develop new characters and stories. It's a big galaxy.
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May 29, 2018 03:28
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They don't need to be origin stories, they just need to be "a story where X person is a major character."
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May 29, 2018 03:32
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bushisms.txt posted:We have a canon death before ANH for maul, his movie would be even more useless than rogue one.
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May 29, 2018 04:27
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Duckula posted:I still can’t get over the mention of Teras Kasi. Of all the awful references to the old EU that was something else. As a child who had no friends because every time I invited someone over to play Masters of Teras Kasi with me I owned the poo poo out of them with Vader's boomerang lightsaber move on endless loop, gently caress you I clapped at that reference and you can suck on these balls. 
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May 29, 2018 07:32
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Handen posted:As a child who had no friends because every time I invited someone over to play Masters of Teras Kasi with me I owned the poo poo out of them with Vader's boomerang lightsaber move on endless loop, gently caress you I clapped at that reference and you can suck on these balls. Seriously. Most ps1 fighting games are uninspired trash but nothing loving beats pile driving luke Skywalker into the ground as a gamorrean guard making pig noises and shooting a swirling ring of fire out your rear end.
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May 29, 2018 11:31
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When I saw this last night I laughed so hard I erupted into a goddamn coughing fit and almost threw up. edit: I should prob use a different verb than "erupted" ah gently caress it.
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May 29, 2018 13:16
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Ingmar terdman posted:I'm always surprised when people think Maul should have been kept through the PT though. He was so unappealing, I think somewhat by design. Even when I was a kid I thought it was weird that he was just kind of Sheev's dumb attack dog, and despite all the years of establishing him as a spooky 3D chess crime master, it's still hard for me to square with how he's presented in TPM. Just kind of a blunt instrument. As far as all the bad and good warrior-monks in these movies go he always seemed all warrior no monk. eh No dialogue. No motivation. No screen time. Maul has always seemed to me like just another example of why the prequels were trash. And now, there's all these young folks saying that he's awesome. I guess I'm just too old.
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May 29, 2018 15:19
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Ema Nymton posted:No dialogue. No motivation. No screen time. Maul has always seemed to me like just another example of why the prequels were trash. And now, there's all these young folks saying that he's awesome. I guess I'm just too old. The entire story in TPM is about this band of do-gooders thinking they’ve saved the world when in fact they’ve just empowered a fascist and achieved all of his goals for him. Maul turning out to be a nothing is the point—he's just a scary face whose death gives the Jedi an empty victory.
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May 29, 2018 15:25
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Ema Nymton posted:No dialogue. No motivation. No screen time. Maul has always seemed to me like just another example of why the prequels were trash. And now, there's all these young folks saying that he's awesome. I guess I'm just too old. Nah, Maul's the same as Boba Fett: He's a plot device with a few lines of dialogue, but because he looks cool, he has this mystique around him.
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May 29, 2018 16:24
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Ema Nymton posted:No dialogue. No motivation. No screen time. Maul has always seemed to me like just another example of why the prequels were trash. And now, there's all these young folks saying that he's awesome. I guess I'm just too old. I actually rewatched the prequels over the weekend because I had nothing else to do. It blows my mind that anyone can romanticize those movies. They're really not very good. They're not worse than I remember them, just dumber than I remember. Seeing online reactions to TLJ really makes me appreciate the fact that Twitter didn't exist until after the last prequel film was released. Granted, message board users (hey goons!) bitched about them more than enough, but there wasn't a giant bullhorn into infinity to spread that negativity to. In my opinion, the only one-up the PT really has on something like Last Jedi is that the plots beef up the lore of Star Wars a lot more than anything Disney has done with their two cracks at the primary saga. Maybe that's in the eye of the beholder. But my only real complaint with the two new trilogy movies is that I don't think any of it really matters. It's all in the shadow of a nasty Empire that already had its rear end kicked in pretty epic fashion. My personal preference would have been to repeat the beats of the PT and actually show forces coming together to create a new threat to the galaxy instead of just handing us 'Diet Empire' and this half-assed version of the Rebellion. Same cool looking poo poo, a lot less calories.
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May 29, 2018 16:32
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I always liked the nerd headcanon idea of having Dooku be a Jedi in I, and having Maul and Grievous be the same person. The prequels suffer from not having consistent villains. You've got Sheev but the good guys don't know about him so he feels different from a proper villain like Vader.
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May 29, 2018 17:26
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You could say that each of the villains represent a piece of what Vader would become, which is an interesting concept, but they don't really have much to do with his arc as a character so just sort of fall flat if that was the intention.
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May 29, 2018 18:25
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I always liked the nerd headcanon idea of having Dooku be a Jedi in I, and having Maul and Grievous be the same person. The prequels suffer from not having consistent villains. You've got Sheev but the good guys don't know about him so he feels different from a proper villain like Vader. Never heard this but I could get into it. Dooku is a Windu-like naysayer of Anakin on the council, and then in the next one he's secretly doing clone stuff and then you have his turn revealed. And then you can still have Maul come back in a robot suit and have an Obi rematch. Kinda not awful
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May 29, 2018 19:06
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Timby posted:Nah, Maul's the same as Boba Fett: He's a plot device with a few lines of dialogue, but because he looks cool, he has this mystique around him. That's a good analogy.
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May 29, 2018 19:24
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s.i.r.e. posted:That's a good analogy. So far we have no NuCanon source claiming Fett survived the Sarlacc, do we? Even in the Aftermath books, where we see some guy on Tatooine buying a set of battle (and stomach acid) damaged Mandalorian armor, it never mentions Fett's fate explicitly. My bet is his survival will either be revealed in the Fett movie or the media leading up to it. Depending how close after ROTJ the Resistance TV show is set, we might even see him in there.
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May 29, 2018 19:36
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Ema Nymton posted:No dialogue. No motivation. No screen time. Maul has always seemed to me like just another example of why the prequels were trash. And now, there's all these young folks saying that he's awesome. I guess I'm just too old. Maul is popular for the same reason Boba Fett is because they look cool. Star Wars is a franchise designed to sell toys and n64 games at the end of the day. At least Thrawn is a fleshed out character.
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May 29, 2018 19:47
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Robot Style posted:You could say that each of the villains represent a piece of what Vader would become, which is an interesting concept, but they don't really have much to do with his arc as a character so just sort of fall flat if that was the intention. I know Grievous's coughing was meant to foreshadow Vader's sinister breathing. It came off as kind of goofy rather than creepy most of the time. Obi-Wan making Grievous look like a massive dork every time they're on screen together was good fun, though.
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May 29, 2018 20:14
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Wheat Loaf posted:I know Grievous's coughing was meant to foreshadow Vader's sinister breathing. It came off as kind of goofy rather than creepy most of the time. And the lengths they went to keep Anakin and Grievous apart were quite amusing Closest they ever got was in the unfinished, but still canon Utapau arc
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May 29, 2018 20:16
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Wheat Loaf posted:I know Grievous's coughing was meant to foreshadow Vader's sinister breathing. It came off as kind of goofy rather than creepy most of the time. It's like poetry, it rhymes. 
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May 29, 2018 20:20
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Ema Nymton posted:No dialogue. No motivation. No screen time. Maul has always seemed to me like just another example of why the prequels were trash. And now, there's all these young folks saying that he's awesome. I guess I'm just too old. It's amazing what a story that actually builds his character (as in, gives him one at all) and makes him more than a random villain of the week/movie can do. I don't understand why people are so against the idea of taking characters who originally had very little and like, actually giving them something to do. Why not fix something and make it better? Use the potential that was originally unrealized?
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May 29, 2018 20:23
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Ema Nymton posted:No dialogue. No motivation. No screen time. Maul has always seemed to me like just another example of why the prequels were trash. And now, there's all these young folks saying that he's awesome. I guess I'm just too old. star wars has always been about design imho that is why people like the cool looking things and are correct tod o so
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May 29, 2018 20:54
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Taintrunner posted:disney stopped doing this bit because it was damaging the prestige of the lucrative star wars brand I'm not loving joking Uhh yes. Everything Disney does is absolute garbage, and it only gets worse the further you get from their filmmaking.
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May 29, 2018 21:27
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Zas posted:star wars has always been about design imho that is why people like the cool looking things and are correct tod o so This is true - the making of book for the first film mentions a bunch of times how Lucas basically just had a few scenes/images he wanted to put on screen and had to build a story around them. The only scenes that appear in every draft of the script are the Death Star battle, the cantina, and (up until the final draft) a character slamming their left fist down on a table, splitting their arm open and dramatically revealing that they're entirely mechanical other than their head and right arm.
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May 29, 2018 22:30
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gently caress that last part sounds metal as hell
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