|
I guess a lot of people were having problems with the ~pearl~ vs. muffin debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SRtpEvkgRU
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 04:37
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 25, 2024 14:10 |
|
|
whatever7 posted:It had terrible editing, I also thought the tech was let go. Teddy gives him a gun with one bullet and says it's his "last mercy" god drat how are goons so loving stupid
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 04:45
|
|
|
packetmantis posted:Teddy gives him a gun with one bullet and says it's his "last mercy" god drat how are goons so loving stupid People thought they were just abandoning him in the middle of no where. The "last mercy" would giving him a method to kill himself instead of starving to death. You don't have to be such a jerk about it.
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 04:48
|
|
|
Judge Schnoopy posted:Goddamn I swear if this poo poo is Lost all over again and Westworld doesn't actually matter because it's fake as gently caress I'm gonna lose my poo poo Gonna stop you right there, because I assume that you think that they were dead the entire time in Lost. But you would be wrong (and have terrible viewing comprehension). Because they were only dead in the season 6 "alternate universe" segments, not the entire show. This is literally spelled out by Jack's dad in the final moments. I don't care what people think of Lost, but they were not dead the whole time and nothing in the finale rendered everything else "pointless." However, the fact that so many people rip Lost apart for something that didn't actually even happen on the show should show everyone that a much tighter, more competent show like this is not going to attempt that and having hissy fits over assuming they will is loving stupid.
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 04:50
|
|
|
Supercar Gautier posted:I went back and checked and there's one shot where the landscape is moving the wrong way (as though the car the bots are on is leading), but in the rest of the shots it's correct (with the tech's car leading). I think maybe the landscape thing got me. I've never had any issues with paying attention to Westworld but I too was confused as to why they left the tech behind and then essentially blew themselves up. At some point when they step over to the other car it looked like they were moving forward or something, I don't know.
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 04:51
|
|
|
This TV show may be too hard to follow for some goons, even when things are explicitly shown on screen. Maybe they should bring in a narrator for season 3, hopefully Delores because she spends most of her time monologuing anyways. e: just watched the scene again and everything points to him being in the front car attached to the locomotive. All backround movement points to it aswell. mustard_tiger fucked around with this message at 04:54 on May 29, 2018 |
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 04:52
|
|
|
Use your heads! The train was moving one way in one timeline but the shot of it moving the other way shows us there’s another timeline.
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 04:55
|
|
|
Cojawfee posted:The "last mercy" would giving him a method to kill himself instead of starving to death. no poo poo
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 05:00
|
|
|
packetmantis posted:no poo poo Then what are you complaining about? The options were "Here, shoot yourself before this train smashes into the mesa and blows up." Or "We're letting you go. You might want to just shoot yourself instead of wasting away in the desert."
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 05:18
|
|
|
I think the other scene showing the train pulling away from Teddy and Delores should clue the viewers in.
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 05:25
|
|
|
Yes, and the action occurring on screen draws the viewer's eyes away from subtle details like which direction the background is moving and the small portion of the engine we are able to see.
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 05:30
|
|
|
Dr. Abysmal posted:I hope that MiB and his daughter are both humans and their conversation and his forgetting a detail about her childhood that obviously meant something to her is just an indicator that he's neglected his family for a long time rather than some host memory test Pretty sure that's what it was based on his reaction. He was trying to be a good dad but hosed up. That whole scene was great. Ed Harris did so much acting just with his eyes.
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 05:33
|
|
|
I'm a pretty smart guy who is good at watching TV and I didn't realize that Dolores et al. weren't on the train that crashed until I read it here. It was not obvious that they uncoupled from the rest of the train not vice versa.
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 05:35
|
|
|
I also thought Deloras et al were also on the explodey bit, it was poorly shot.mustard_tiger posted:I think the other scene showing the train pulling away from Teddy and Delores should clue the viewers in. A train pulling away also looks like a cart falling back.
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 05:47
|
|
|
Pirate Radar posted:Use your heads! The train was moving one way in one timeline but the shot of it moving the other way shows us there’s another timeline. The train is inside the cradle being simulated to move in different directions to decide the best outcome. There's a scenario where it's moving up and also Dolores is a T-Rex (Jurassic World spoiler).
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 05:50
|
|
|
Megabound posted:I also thought Deloras et al were also on the explodey bit LOL that would be amazing
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 06:03
|
|
|
Teddy gave the tech one bullet because up ahead there’s a section of track that the Chinese laborers we saw earlier are working on. If the tech lets the train go through it will kill the Chinese laborers, but if he uses the gun to shoot a railway switch the train will divert onto a section of track that the cool coyote dog that keeps showing up is on. Which does he pick???
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 06:09
|
|
|
The gun and the bullet were sponsored by Burger King. Burger King: A place for hamburgers.
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 06:16
|
|
|
Megabound posted:A train pulling away also looks like a cart falling back. Except the train pulling away had the tech on it? And it was pulling away in the direction of travel. I never want to be a passenger in a car driven by you.
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 06:27
|
|
|
mustard_tiger posted:Except the train pulling away had the tech on it? And it was pulling away in the direction of travel. I never want to be a passenger in a car driven by you. If you are focusing on the tech banging on the door and not the rest of the scene, him moving away from the car the camera is attached to can look like he is dropping back from the rest of the train.
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 06:48
|
|
|
People generally associate movement from left to right as going forward. Lateral direction to the right is understood as progress, while towards the left implies regression. In the same way, having the tech on the left side of the frame and the hosts on right also implies that he's behind them and that they instead are progressing, rather than (in actuality) lagging behind while he accelerates forward. I realize the background makes it clear that the train is moving to the left - however, any time you see the background there's focus and action going on at the forefront (the host pulling the pin, Teddy loading the gun, the tech's reaction, etc.) and there's no final establishing shot to make it clear what's actually going on (the last shot of the scene is Teddy's grumpy face). I too was confused. I was unsure if the direction was deliberate, but now I think it was in order to conceal the Dolores' plan from the audience for ~another 2 minutes. It looks like it just resulted in confusion rather than surprise, though.* e.g.   Watch the fellowship again sometime and realize that the journey from the Shire to Mt. Doom is framed from left to right, e.g. the characters travel towards the right side of the screen. This is common cinematic language that you can see in pretty much every tv show/film. i remember this from a youtube video, i'll try to find it and post it if anyone's interested. *Although rewatching now and the shot goes from the interior, where they realize there's a train coming, to a shot of the train, followed by a shot of the hosts. Again, implying that the hosts are on the train. Last shot is of Dolores looking away disinterestedly before the train disappears inside the mountain and an explosion is heard. It's kinda weirdly shot, to be honest.
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 07:14
|
|
|
idk if this is better or worse than arguing about how guns and swords work.
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 07:16
|
|
|
So the ball goes in the train, right?
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 07:21
|
|
|
anything's better than guns and swords chat, move on to train chat please
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 07:21
|
|
|
Pirate Radar posted:So the ball goes in the train, right? I thought it was the other way around tbh. Clearly this is setting up the return of the shrink ray, and Dolores crashed the train car into Bernard's ball while it was in the cradle.
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 07:22
|
|
|
This was all just a thought experiment in the mind of an autistic Robert Ford child robot.
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 07:41
|
|
|
Going to have to second the Goons are bad at watching television thread rename.
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 07:45
|
|
|
You've never been outside the forums, have you? I have. And the world out there is marked by being bad at watching television, too.
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 07:48
|
|
|
The truth is most people are bad at watching television. Not me tho I'm really good at it!!!
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 07:50
|
|
|
Caufman posted:You've never been outside the forums, have you? I have. And the world out there is marked by being bad at watching television, too. You keep talking about outside the forums. If it's so great out there, why does everyone one to get into the forums where they can be obtuse and refuse to see something from another person's perspective?
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 07:50
|
|
|
I'm really good at watching TV and have been for decades and if you don't like it then, well.. *shoves a white hot fireplace poker into your bladder*
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 07:55
|
|
|
Despera posted:Going to have to second the Goons are bad at watching television thread rename. I mean that’s what this entire forums should be called.
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 07:57
|
|
|
Caufman posted:You've never been outside the forums, have you? I have. And the world out there is marked by being bad at watching television, too. I think most people on the outside world were sure that dolores didnt blow herself up.
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 07:59
|
|
|
I want to know the engineer who decided that the backup mainframe should be bathed in various shades of red for maximum ominous atmosphere. Seriously, was someone trying and failing to larp as Eugene "The Plague" Belford?
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 08:12
|
|
|
I understood that Dolores wouldn't blow herself up but I still second-guessed what I saw because of the bad editing. I mean there is literally a shot of the tech where the ground is going in the wrong direction. All it needed was a clearer shot that shows that the car the tech is in is attached to the engine.
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 08:25
|
|
|
double nine posted:I want to know the engineer who decided that the backup mainframe should be bathed in various shades of red for maximum ominous atmosphere. Oh goddamnit. Ford created a Delos version of the Da Vinci virus, didn't he?
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 08:41
|
|
|
Despera posted:I think most people on the outside world were sure that dolores didnt blow herself up. Maaan, don't reveal that you don't really know what people outside these forums think. Cojawfee posted:You keep talking about outside the forums. If it's so great out there, why does everyone one to get into the forums where they can be obtuse and refuse to see something from another person's perspective? You frighten me sometimes, Cojawfee.
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 08:47
|
|
|
Goons s1 based on one tiny little visual clue: SOLVES THE MYSTERY OF THE RIDDLE OF SEASON 1 Goons s2: based upon a poorly edited sequence: HOW TO TRAIN? HOW DO I TRAIN? TRAIN GO CHOO CHOO?
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 08:49
|
|
|
was ... the real train ... inside of us ... all along?
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 09:19
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 25, 2024 14:10 |
|
|
Have you ever questioned which way the train is going?
|
|
#
?
May 29, 2018 09:20
|
|