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Raxivace posted:I don't care about this dumb train derail but Sanjuro is such a fuckin' good movie. I’m still extremely irritated we got some poorly choreographed Hollywood swordfight instead of a great Kurosawa style two-slashes-and-done duel. You name the character Musashi, you have him play Yojimbo-lite, and then you make him look like an incompetent doof with a bad fight. C’mon guys. Also how the gently caress did this thread fill 6 pages with posts about that goddamn train? Truly, a derail that stands shoulder to shoulder with “I acquit/quit” and “What is this, the local?”.
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# ? May 30, 2018 09:21 |
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I was disappointed b/c I've seen Hiroyuki Sanada have way doper fights in other American media, let alone the weird like kung fu poo poo he did for a hot minute in the past. He's a pretty good martial artist/movie sword dude and the choreo in that scene was disappointing. Still fun to see Sanada be a badass tho so I wasn't really complaining too hard.
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# ? May 30, 2018 09:27 |
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mustard_tiger posted:Can someone explain how they could film that scene better to help goons grasp the concept of direction? There are tons of establishing shots, script lines, background movements ect that show you which way the train is moving. Like jfc how do you tell the direction your car is moving when you're in it? They could have fixed the background in pp? If the editing didn't feel off during the train scene you probably weren't paying enough attention. Big Mean Jerk posted:I’m still extremely irritated we got some poorly choreographed Hollywood swordfight instead of a great Kurosawa style two-slashes-and-done duel. You name the character Musashi, you have him play Yojimbo-lite, and then you make him look like an incompetent doof with a bad fight. C’mon guys. It wasn't great. The choreography was pretty underwhelming and they didn't seem to realise this with the way they shot it, like they assumed the skill of the actors would just carry it.
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# ? May 30, 2018 09:44 |
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I think the way the nose drill works is it lets out the cortical fluid, which is a bad thing as we see with Bernard. Maybe once it's all gone you become a zombie like Clem, but since they wanted to use Abernathy for something they probably refilled his.
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# ? May 30, 2018 09:50 |
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:So, by what means is the cradle populating Virtual Westworld? Is Delores' father Abernathy or the replacement bartender? By same token who is the madame? They're all there, Dolores has like 5 dads precariously sitting on top of each other each morning on that loving chair waxing lyrical about natural splendour.
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# ? May 30, 2018 10:44 |
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WampaLord posted:Honestly had Teddy not given him the pistol, this would all be more clear. “Here’s a gun with one bullet, save it for suicide” is a common thing in movies and TV though. No Butt Stuff posted:Ward and May were just talking Nice. mustard_tiger posted:Can someone explain how they could film that scene better to help goons grasp the concept of direction? There are tons of establishing shots, script lines, background movements ect that show you which way the train is moving. Like jfc how do you tell the direction your car is moving when you're in it? Maybe they could hire the GoT writers and have them write the dialog? Teddy: We need to get into the Mesa, which we will do by running the train into it and having it blow up. Since you are not a host (you are a human) and since you’ve made me king rear end in a top hat now, you can’t join us. Guy: What does that mean? Teddy: The train’s engine is in the front car, the same car you’re in right now. We are going to move to the second car and disconnect it with you on the car. Guy: But why? Teddy: As I said, you’re of no use to us now. By the way, here is a gun with one bullet, for you to shoot yourself in the head to commit suicide in case you don’t want to burn to death from the fires caused by the explosion. After disconnecting, Teddy shouts across the gap: You are now on the train with the engine barreling towards the Mesa. We are slowing down because we don’t have an engine because you have it. We’re going to walk the rest of the way. Remember the gun I gave you.
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# ? May 30, 2018 11:15 |
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Boris Galerkin posted:Teddy: We need to get into the Mesa, which we will do by running the train into it and having it blow up. Since you are not a host (you are a human) and since you’ve made me king rear end in a top hat now, you can’t join us. Goons: I'm sorry, I still don't see how we were supposed to pick up that Deloros wasn't on the part with the engine. This is preposterous.
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# ? May 30, 2018 11:22 |
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mossyfisk posted:
It looks easy but those are multi-pound swords.
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# ? May 30, 2018 11:26 |
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Re: removing the ball through the nose. Elsie said the new robits don't have articulated scalps.
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# ? May 30, 2018 11:54 |
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Collateral posted:removing the ball through the nose. I think the ancient Egyptians did that
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# ? May 30, 2018 11:56 |
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Pirate Radar posted:I think the ancient Egyptians did that did they at least wash their hands?
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# ? May 30, 2018 11:59 |
Thread, access analysis mode. Explain the reasoning behind the train posts?
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# ? May 30, 2018 12:09 |
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WMain00 posted:Thread, access analysis mode.
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# ? May 30, 2018 12:10 |
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WMain00 posted:Thread, access analysis mode. Goons are so desperate to appear they are smart or show that others are dumb that they will purposely misinterpret other people's posts and then respond to that interpretation or refuse to see other points of view.
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# ? May 30, 2018 12:23 |
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There is nothing so special about goons. I know people out there who also misunderstood that scene. And in a quick google search you can find hundreds of comments about it That seems to indicate that the scene just really wanst clear enough, not that people are ""bad at watching Tv", whatever that means
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# ? May 30, 2018 12:51 |
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Yes but you see how else can I feel superior and act all smug than by telling other people they're enjoying media wrong
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# ? May 30, 2018 12:54 |
You scare me forum thread.
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# ? May 30, 2018 12:57 |
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The Shogunworld is basically fan service filler, but the weeaboos are very happy with it.
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# ? May 30, 2018 13:03 |
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I’m still extremely irritated we got some poorly choreographed Hollywood swordfight instead of a great Kurosawa style two-slashes-and-done duel. You name the character Musashi, you have him play Yojimbo-lite, and then you make him look like an incompetent doof with a bad fight. C’mon guys.
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# ? May 30, 2018 13:04 |
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So why didn't that guy use the one bullet to just shoot one of them through the train window? Like, how do you tell a guy. "Hey, we're going to murder you but, before we do, here's a gun that you should totally use on yourself." If he was too cowardly/inept/under pressure to load the gun and use it on them, he probably also wouldn't use it on himself for the same reasons.
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# ? May 30, 2018 13:07 |
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Because they might shoot back? Smarter to just wait for the carriage to stop.
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# ? May 30, 2018 13:20 |
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So I watched season 1 episode 3 last night where Ford introduces Wyatt to Teddy's code. What Ford and Teddy explain as Wyatt's story is exactly how she ends up in season 2. Maybe Dolores is fully autonomous, but Ford still knew how she would behave with her freedom. The other important part is where Teddy commits himself to killing Wyatt, right after Ford explains his life is doomed to failure. Dolores is gonna kill Teddy when he tries to fight back, as explained back in season 1. Watching season 1 and seeing how much of season 2 was set up way back when has really restored my faith in this season that they're not bailing out on cheap answers.
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# ? May 30, 2018 13:30 |
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pogothemonkey0 posted:So why didn't that guy use the one bullet to just shoot one of them through the train window? Like, how do you tell a guy. "Hey, we're going to murder you but, before we do, here's a gun that you should totally use on yourself." If he was too cowardly/inept/under pressure to load the gun and use it on them, he probably also wouldn't use it on himself for the same reasons. Judge Schnoopy posted:So I watched season 1 episode 3 last night where Ford introduces Wyatt to Teddy's code. Definitely agree about season 2 being way more tied into stuff that happened in season 1 than is immediately obvious. Just like season 1 had stuff that only really started coming together in the last episodes, it also has some bits that seem a lot more important in the context of season 2. A Buttery Pastry fucked around with this message at 13:47 on May 30, 2018 |
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Judge Schnoopy posted:So I watched season 1 episode 3 last night where Ford introduces Wyatt to Teddy's code. yeah, Im waiting for the end of S2 to rewatch both seasons to try to catch these kind of stuff. Should be interesting
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# ? May 30, 2018 13:34 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:I wonder if, with the Cradle being a simulation of the park, Ford hasn't rehearsed the robellion to near perfection? If he has managed to build strong enough personality replicas of the various players involved, it seems like it should be possible. Obviously he can't account for everything, but if he has eyes and ears on everyone from inside the Cradle then he kinda has a perfect setup for creating new forecasts based on what's actually going on - allowing him to anticipate their next move and planning interventions to keep things on track. Which I suppose sorta goes into free will territory - if you can predict someone's every move, then free will is mostly just a justification for automatic responses. Possibly, but the episode also features malfunctioning robots talking to Arnold and hearing his voice in their heads. The cradle seems to be networked live to hosts. Ford could just be the man behind the curtain to most of the revolution. The idea of Ford building Wyatt from Dolores seems so intensely anti-Arnold. I can't tell if he was giving Dolores the tools she needed to win the revolution, or if he was spiting the 'consciousness' Arnold bootstrapped from the cradle. Why would he make Dolores, Arnold's chosen one, the evil harbinger of death?
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# ? May 30, 2018 13:57 |
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esperterra posted:Hell I'll give you something more recent The stunt double gets really obvious about 3:44 onwards. His hair and Toby Stepehen's don't match. Not that I was looking at the man's hair...
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# ? May 30, 2018 13:59 |
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My new theory is that Abernathy is carrying a super intelligent AI and that's why, for storytelling purposes, they've insisted on keeping that drat ball in his head. Before he was captured he was singing the battle hymn of the republic (mine eyes have seen the coming of the lord), and now he's crucified to a lab table. He's gonna come back in three days as Abernathy the White.
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# ? May 30, 2018 15:03 |
Guys what if, now bear with me here... What if the train is in Abernathy's head?
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# ? May 30, 2018 15:04 |
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Probably been posted before, but it deserves reposting, all of Hopkins's scenes in season 1: Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV2Q41o-rwE Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRqJ-hGKpcc Over 2 hours of pure class.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:I wonder if, with the Cradle being a simulation of the park, Ford hasn't rehearsed the robellion to near perfection? If he has managed to build strong enough personality replicas of the various players involved, it seems like it should be possible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlTbXDURP2M William clearly went off script there. Which is interesting.
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# ? May 30, 2018 15:34 |
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Cirofren posted:I see that and raise you The whole park is basically a weeb version of Medieval Times, I wouldn't expect accurate combat from it even in the context it's in, to say nothing of it being a cable TV show that probably cares more about looking fun and cool to people who don't care about this stuff.
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# ? May 30, 2018 16:12 |
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It'd be fun for the show to call itself out on that stuff somehow but I think we're probably done with Shogun World which is a shame because that poo poo was cool.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:It'd be fun for the show to call itself out on that stuff somehow but I think we're probably done with Shogun World which is a shame because that poo poo was cool. I was hoping they'd keep rolling with Sizemore's commentary on it all but sadly they just kind of let that poo poo go
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# ? May 30, 2018 16:24 |
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If we’re going to start in on the swordfights we’d have to start in on the gunfights too and I don’t think we want that at all.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:The whole park is basically a weeb version of Medieval Times, I wouldn't expect accurate combat from it even in the context it's in, to say nothing of it being a cable TV show that probably cares more about looking fun and cool to people who don't care about this stuff. I don't really care about historically accurate fight scenes or anything but even as a layperson that scene felt awkward and off. Same with the QA team or whatever advancing on a fort slowly in a line while not wearing any helmets.
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# ? May 30, 2018 16:30 |
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Boris Galerkin posted:“Here’s a gun with one bullet, save it for suicide” is a common thing in movies and TV though. Would that have been so hard??
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# ? May 30, 2018 16:43 |
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Oh yeah I want to separate my “we won’t complain about the swordfights or gunfights” thing from the “why did QA just walk towards the gunfire” because there’s a difference between wanting the presentation of how objects work to exactly match reality and wanting characters to not do explicitly stupid things onscreen.
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# ? May 30, 2018 16:47 |
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I guess you could justify that scene with QA guys being a bunch of untrained unprepared fucks who never had real combat experience and never expected to be in a situation like that
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# ? May 30, 2018 17:15 |
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Just admit the shoot out in e3 is as bad as the shoot out in True Detective s2. There is no defending it.
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# ? May 30, 2018 17:17 |
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whoa someone else actually watched True Detective 2 all the way to the shootout ep?
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