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Counter: Yes. The middle is bad but the start and finish are good.
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Rhyno posted:He said he was growing it out for the show back in season 4! stephen amell
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May 23, 2018 04:29
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Mooseontheloose posted:Counter: Yes. The middle is bad but the start and finish are good. How was the ending good or satisfying?
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May 23, 2018 04:31
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Well I watched the finale and I wanted to be nice but gently caress Off. Couple of nice fights but that sucked rear end. Give Ollie a season on the Waverider, let him tell various rulers through history that they have failed their cities or something. Please just cheer the sad fucker up 
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May 31, 2018 23:07
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McDragon posted:Well I watched the finale and I wanted to be nice but gently caress Off. Couple of nice fights but that sucked rear end.  : Julius Caesar! You have failed this empire! : BACK OFF HOODIE! CAESAR’S MINE!
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May 31, 2018 23:10
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Oliver on the Waverider would be a hell of a thing. It would be like Rip fighting for power with Sarah all over only Sara would totally lose. But then Oliver would just lose his mind over all the actions and decisions of the Legends and try to fire them or something. Then he'd just take Ava's job or something.
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Jun 1, 2018 01:32
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The writing staff for next season posted a group picture to Twitter recently https://twitter.com/ARROWwriters/status/1001571727443308545 I'll admit, I'm more curious to see how the show does next fall now.
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Jun 1, 2018 01:38
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Which one is Speed Weed
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Jun 1, 2018 02:52
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howe_sam posted:The writing staff for next season posted a group picture to Twitter recently I'm impressed that many women are Arrow writers.
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Jun 1, 2018 02:54
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It should be noted that this is a new writing staff to go along with the new showrunner. Not sure how many of them, if any, are holdovers from the most recent season.
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Jun 1, 2018 02:56
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twistedmentat posted:I'm impressed that many women are Arrow writers. I'm pretty sure that's the point. Didn't the old head writer get fired for being a sex monster?
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Jun 1, 2018 02:56
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STAC Goat posted:I'm pretty sure that's the point. Didn't the old head writer get fired for being a sex monster? Hold showrunner/head writer. Season 7 might be a whole new world.
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Jun 1, 2018 03:05
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Can't be any worse!
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Jun 1, 2018 03:30
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STAC Goat posted:I'm pretty sure that's the point. Didn't the old head writer get fired for being a sex monster?
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Jun 1, 2018 03:37
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Klungar posted:It should be noted that this is a new writing staff to go along with the new showrunner. Not sure how many of them, if any, are holdovers from the most recent season. After that last season I hope everyone was replaced.
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Jun 1, 2018 05:35
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STAC Goat posted:I enjoyed it with the caveat that it was the best way they could clean up the messy season. I've said it the last few weeks but I think they finished off strong as best as they could since you can't go back and correct your mistakes. And I'm fine with Supermax Arrow and Diaz Take 2. I have cautious optimism that Kirk Acevedo can pull off a psychopath bent on revenge without the failed super crime boss genius stuff the finale effectively neutralized. And maybe Longbow Hunters? I'm game but I was never close to hatewatching this season. If you haven't seen 12 Monkeys, Season 1 Episode 11 "Atari" has him doing an amazing supervillian. However I'm not sure how much faith I have in the overall production to give him the material to get that kind of performance. I've said it before, but send Diaz to Legends and he'll end up as a great villain or Legend. Either/or. edit: Actually, you really have to watch 12 Monkeys from the start up to ep 11 to really get a solid feel for the character arc to that point. Acevedo's character grew up without parents in a hosed up world, did crazy poo poo to survive, and in episode 11 takes him to the point of being a major player in The Army of the 12 Monkeys, which since it's a time travel show he's basically been the man in the shadows up until that point. He's effectively a 10x better version of what Diaz should have been. HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE fucked around with this message at 09:25 on Jun 1, 2018 |
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Jun 1, 2018 09:18
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Klungar posted:It should be noted that this is a new writing staff to go along with the new showrunner. Not sure how many of them, if any, are holdovers from the most recent season. I thought one of the main good things about Kreisberg leaving (besides him being a sex monster) was that they'd stop axing all of the writers between seasons? TwoPair fucked around with this message at 13:30 on Jun 1, 2018 |
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Jun 1, 2018 11:55
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Just watch all of 12 Monkey's. Season 1 isn't nearly as good as the rest, but it turns into a god drat good show.
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Jun 1, 2018 13:28
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Thank god they saved Diaz so we can get more Diaz. Can't get enough of that Diaz.
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Jun 1, 2018 20:36
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HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:If you haven't seen 12 Monkeys, Season 1 Episode 11 "Atari" has him doing an amazing supervillian. However I'm not sure how much faith I have in the overall production to give him the material to get that kind of performance. Yeah, I'm plenty familiar with Acevedo from 12 Monkeys and going all the way back to Oz. He's one of my favorite low level actors. Which is why I'm more than happy to give him and the show the opportunity for a second take on the character now that they've effectively wiped the slate clean of the stuff they screwed up with him the first time. Forget all the "super genius who has already won and whatever the gently caress the Quad is" stuff that we mocked. He's a psychopath willing to burn to death some schoolyard bully from 20 years ago for revenge and Oliver Queen just thwarted him and screwed up all his poo poo. Arrow and Acevedo can make that work. Will they? I have no idea. But I'm not even half way as down on the show as a lot of people in this thread. If I was I would have quit it already.
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Jun 1, 2018 20:46
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Diaz knew he was going to be blown into that harbor and just swam down to his underwater lair.
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Jun 1, 2018 21:44
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howe_sam posted:The writing staff for next season posted a group picture to Twitter recently Jeez, 70% of the employed female tv writers in LA at one table.
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Jun 2, 2018 01:07
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STAC Goat posted:Yeah, I'm plenty familiar with Acevedo from 12 Monkeys and going all the way back to Oz. He's one of my favorite low level actors. Which is why I'm more than happy to give him and the show the opportunity for a second take on the character now that they've effectively wiped the slate clean of the stuff they screwed up with him the first time. Forget all the "super genius who has already won and whatever the gently caress the Quad is" stuff that we mocked. He's a psychopath willing to burn to death some schoolyard bully from 20 years ago for revenge and Oliver Queen just thwarted him and screwed up all his poo poo. Arrow and Acevedo can make that work. Speaking of 12 Monkeys JUNE 15TH WOOOO
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Jun 2, 2018 02:38
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Finally finished the season and the thread title is a lie right? Like did I miss it or did he not do the salmon ladder even once.
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Jun 3, 2018 07:50
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MarcusSA posted:Finally finished the season and the thread title is a lie right? Like did I miss it or did he not do the salmon ladder even once. Probably why nobody's stayed.
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Jun 4, 2018 23:23
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Sir Potato posted:Probably why nobody's stayed. Yeah no poo poo. Thats like 20% of the reason I watched the show to see him do stupid workout stuff. I mean they hit that black bag thing a lot but eh its just not the same. Bring back workout Ollie!
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Jun 4, 2018 23:54
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I didn't hate the season, but the Diaz storyline just seemed weird and unearned, considering he seemed like a complete background character during the Cayden James stuff (did he even really have any lines outside the episode where Diggle bought the magic fixing juice?). I don't get why Black Siren was so afraid of him the entire time. If he is genuinely coming back to be the Big Bad for Season 7, it's kind of difficult to get hyped about because I was a little sick of him by the end of the season (even if he's teaming up with the Longbow Hunters or whoever). The ending was ok, it's hard to judge how they'll do with the "Oliver in prison" story until we see how they run with it. I'm assuming it's kind of the impetus for Roy coming back (he's supposed to be a regular next season, right?) I was disappointed that they killed off Lance (have they not killed enough of that family already?) The conflict within the team throughout the season also just didn't feel well-written, then it's just waved away with Oliver's little goodbye scenes. I dunno, there was some good stuff in the season and the finale, but a lot of just weird or bad stuff. Hopefully the new writing team and showrunners do a better job for Season 7.
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Jun 5, 2018 17:02
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The only way I would ever see them keeping Diaz around actually paying off would be if they do that thing where the stakes are raised by having the new bad guy kill the previously unbeatable bad guy. Like he storms into The Quadrant's headquarters, drenched in water, screaming about how Oliver Queen is DEAD and someone new just unceremoniously snaps his neck before they go to sit down at the table, alone.
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Jun 5, 2018 17:17
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VictorianQueerLit posted:The only way I would ever see them keeping Diaz around actually paying off would be if they do that thing where the stakes are raised by having the new bad guy kill the previously unbeatable bad guy. I'm trying to think of who they could get to do that and all that's occurring to me is Bane.
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Jun 5, 2018 21:17
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Diaz might have been slightly more palatable if it weren't for how they mishandled THE QUADRANT, greatest criminal organization ever that was co-opted by some drug dealer or something.
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Jun 5, 2018 21:18
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All super powerful secret organizations are always like that in TV. They're built up to be super powerful and sinister, but get chumped by a main character as soon as the plot needs it to be. It really reminded me of lovely 90s action shows in that way.
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Jun 5, 2018 23:38
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VictorianQueerLit posted:The only way I would ever see them keeping Diaz around actually paying off would be if they do that thing where the stakes are raised by having the new bad guy kill the previously unbeatable bad guy. They should have the Longbow Hunters just up and murder him right away.
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Jun 6, 2018 00:00
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Just popping in to say I'm behind and I'm halfway through one ep past Diggle leaving. This is insufferable melodramatic nonsense. Do I dare bother stick it out? Tell me it rights its ship soon?
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Jun 6, 2018 00:03
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Feenix posted:Just popping in to say I'm behind and I'm halfway through one ep past Diggle leaving. This is insufferable melodramatic nonsense. Do I dare bother stick it out? Tell me it rights its ship soon? lol well...
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Jun 6, 2018 00:03
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MarcusSA posted:lol well... gently caress. I’m out.
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Jun 6, 2018 00:28
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Feenix posted:Just popping in to say I'm behind and I'm halfway through one ep past Diggle leaving. This is insufferable melodramatic nonsense. Do I dare bother stick it out? Tell me it rights its ship soon? I realized I missed this episode and didn't bother going back to watch it.
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Jun 6, 2018 00:36
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Feenix posted:gently caress. I’m out. They do rectify a lot of the bullshit by the end of the season, but I'm not sure the journey was worth the destination
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Jun 6, 2018 01:07
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howe_sam posted:They do rectify a lot of the bullshit by the end of the season, but I'm not sure the journey was worth the destination You could probably summarize the events of the season that are of any note in 2-3 episodes, not counting the crossover
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Jun 6, 2018 01:32
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oh jay posted:Diaz might have been slightly more palatable if it weren't for how they mishandled THE QUADRANT, greatest criminal organization ever that was co-opted by some drug dealer or something. I skipped a massive chunk of episodes before the trial got started and it helped a lot. Near the end I was more "oh ok I see where they're going with Diaz, I think they got there" because of it. I think someone here described it here as Diaz just having a lot of time to think about this and really, really wanting it, and I agree. He's a planner, but he also has a cockroach's survival instinct and a little bit of luck. Not sure how we get from James dying to owning the entire city, but I don't really give a gently caress since I wasn't here for it. It made watching the finale actually fun.
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OMG I'm in the courtroom verdict episode and it's just like... what is even going on. Laurel, you can scream his head off any time you like. Why are you afraid? Laural, ok so that time at the end he had a dampener. YOU HAVE A loving PISTOL. Ugggghhhh...
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