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If there's one thing I remember about the Star Wars movies, it's that they definitely put a lot of focus on careful military strategy. Like yeah it's obviously not a great storytelling choice because of all the confusion it's caused, but I don't think anything is going to come from constantly arguing about it when we could be talking about why the heck all the critics are talking about TLJ now. Did they all get together at a party and decide to team up or something? Edit since this is a snipe: We could also talk more about Contra's new video which is also kind of amazing.
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Puppy Time posted:Like yeah it's obviously not a great storytelling choice because of all the confusion it's caused, but I don't think anything is going to come from constantly arguing about it when we could be talking about why the heck all the critics are talking about TLJ now. Did they all get together at a party and decide to team up or something? Someone mentioned that the Blu-ray just came out recently, that's probably why, since now you can get footage from the entire movie in high quality without dealing with
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# ? Jun 2, 2018 20:19 |
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Absurd Alhazred posted:It's an interesting contrast: two movie franchises produced by the same house, involving a trilogy, starting about the same time, with at least one shared actor. One became this whole big big Expanded Universe with many video-game tie-ins, eliciting multiple prequels and additional sequels decades on, both in cinema and on television, while the other had basically stagnated, leading to a couple of games, one belated sequel, a bit of a prequel series that never went too far. Is it because of how big a canvass a galaxy far, far away can be? Young Indiana Jones Chronicles owns.
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# ? Jun 2, 2018 20:36 |
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WampaLord posted:Someone mentioned that the Blu-ray just came out recently, that's probably why, since now you can get footage from the entire movie in high quality without dealing with That and Solo just came out literally last week, so the run up and follow up to its release and its subsequent flaws (real and imagined) has provided people with ample new opportunity to use it as a vector to continue their endless bitching about The Last Jedi. Because they live in a miserable hell of their own making. Also, my personal Solo mini-review: overall it's a perfectly fine Star Wars movie and a decent movie movie, but it only really pops during the second act when Lando's a part of the plot. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Jun 2, 2018 |
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Hey, so today an article I wrote up about an online controversy regarding Assassin's Creed Syndicate (remember that? no, well it was the one about Karl Marx being in it) was published in a magazine. One of my favourites actually, so I'm pleased as punch. They host free PDFs of each issue http://afed.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/organise90-web.pdf One problem is that it centred on a popular meme image, but due to communication issues it wasn't included in the fancy magazine version. It should still make sense, but if not you can read the original version on here https://libcom.org/blog/listen-gamers-02022018 Oh and the magazine has some other great articles about Sci Fi including Ursula K Le Guin criticism on comics, a review of Black Panther that focuses on Kill Monger, and some articles about supporting refugees and combatting growing transphobia in the UK. Baka-nin fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Jun 2, 2018 |
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The Bee posted:It's one of the things about the movie that I feel was done more for the sake of subversion and being clever than anything else. At first I really liked the movie, but it increasingly feels like its relying on 9 properly sticking the landing. yeah. some of the stuff i liked. like snoke being just some random littlefinger type dickhead who thinks he can play at being palpatine like kylo thinks he can with vader. much like kylo. much like kylo, he has some cool tricks and poo poo, but he is basicaly the one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind leading a bunch of ex imperials and their failsons with a legion of child soldiers. like one of the things i liked in TLJ was the captain of the giant drednaught because he is probaly some bitter old dickhead who used to command a star destroyer and now he is taking orders from some dumb screaming kid and one of his bosses wears a halloween mask to work.
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# ? Jun 2, 2018 21:35 |
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Baka-nin posted:Hey, so today an article I wrote up about an online controversy regarding Assassin's Creed Syndicate (remember that? no, well it was the one about Karl Marx being in it) was published in a magazine. One of my favourites actually, so I'm pleased as punch. They host free PDFs of each issue http://afed.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/organise90-web.pdf i loved syndicate a ton and kicking rear end with marx was great(outside the last mission, gently caress that poo poo)
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# ? Jun 2, 2018 21:36 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah. some of the stuff i liked. like snoke being just some random littlefinger type dickhead who thinks he can play at being palpatine like kylo thinks he can with vader. much like kylo. much like kylo, he has some cool tricks and poo poo, but he is basicaly the one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind leading a bunch of ex imperials and their failsons with a legion of child soldiers. like one of the things i liked in TLJ was the captain of the giant drednaught because he is probaly some bitter old dickhead who used to command a star destroyer and now he is taking orders from some dumb screaming kid and one of his bosses wears a halloween mask to work. The top changes in my books were Snoke being nothing and Rey having no lineage. The former stopped it from being samey, and the latter stopped it from being Muppet Babies.
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I swear every time I check out this thread there's like a hundred posts entirely about star wars and almost nothing else. What the gently caress? Can we at least argue about some other bit of star wars? How about the EU, that sure was dumb, right? Anyway - what do people here think about Comics Explained and that side of the internet reviewer spectrum? I don't think I've seen them posted here much but a friend I talk about comic nerdery with put me onto the guy and I find his enthusiasm pretty infectious and he gives some fun rundowns of storylines and characters. His Planet Hulk/World War Hulk video is what got me to like the guy's stuff, and it really made me just want to get around to reading World War Hulk since I never did. Planet Hulk was great though.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:It's an interesting contrast: two movie franchises produced by the same house, involving a trilogy, starting about the same time, with at least one shared actor. One became this whole big big Expanded Universe with many video-game tie-ins, eliciting multiple prequels and additional sequels decades on, both in cinema and on television, while the other had basically stagnated, leading to a couple of games, one belated sequel, a bit of a prequel series that never went too far. Is it because of how big a canvass a galaxy far, far away can be? A closely related aspect is probably that there were no toys—or not a, like you say, whole galaxy of characters to play with. Star Wars was one of the first big movie toy lines, I’m pretty sure. For Indiana Jones, you could have Indiana Jones and some nazis in brown work gear. And no parent is going to want to buy a toy in nazi regalia anyway.
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# ? Jun 2, 2018 23:43 |
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In the annual Final Episode of
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Nuebot posted:I swear every time I check out this thread there's like a hundred posts entirely about star wars and almost nothing else. What the gently caress? Can we at least argue about some other bit of star wars? How about the EU, that sure was dumb, right? the EU was great because it gave us a story about Han Solo being bros with space otters
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# ? Jun 2, 2018 23:46 |
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Solo must be -really- mediocre if people are re-litigating TLJ. --- Back to the Youtuber Burnout phenomenon, I'm surprised it took this long for it to reach this stage. I think only Michael Freaking Jackson in his prime had this level of scrutiny as a 24/7 thing. Sure, he had to dodge papparazi and couldn't step out in public without causing a minor riot, but he could at least take some time off in some rich-person's enclave, and not read his fan mail if he didn't care to. Not to mention he actually had a whole entourage and support structure screening him from the worst of it. Even a minor YT personality has to maintain a strong online presence, which means dealing directly with rabid fans, detractors, trolls, people calling you a sellout, demanding that you talk about X or Y, saying you're and SJW or a cuck, demanding your reaction about this other YTuber's drama....and that is when you are not pumping out more material to stay on the curve, because there's this other person now that does what you do AND also Fortnite streams while in cosplay! For the bigger names, it's actually worse, because they are far more likely to be doing this full-time and from an early age. So if things crash they have a big void in their resumés called "2007-2018 Spicy Chimichanga Reaction Videos" instead of a career that could get you considered for a middle-class level job that will let you keep the high living standard your Youtube fame afforded you. Then again, DSP apparently still makes about 70k+ a year, so maybe there will always be a floor of hardcore fanatics that will see you through.
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# ? Jun 2, 2018 23:55 |
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Sephyr posted:For the bigger names, it's actually worse, because they are far more likely to be doing this full-time and from an early age. So if things crash they have a big void in their resumés called "2007-2018 Spicy Chimichanga Reaction Videos" instead of a career that could get you considered for a middle-class level job that will let you keep the high living standard your Youtube fame afforded you. I don't know about standard of living, but I can see spinning a YT career into marketing, at the very least. You don't get to be one of the big guys without being at least somewhat on the ball about getting an audience and keeping that audience.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 00:32 |
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i just don't get how some of these personalities get huge. i had never heard of ricegum until someone else dunked on him. then i watched some of his stuff and it doesn't make sense. he's an annoying dork.
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Darth Walrus posted:The problem was that Poe had made himself part of that existential crisis. He’d already proven lethally disruptive to one escape plan, so why bring him in on another? ‘We all have to stick together and make decisions as a team’ doesn’t work when one guy is not a team player. Not only that, but he wiped out most of the fighter fleet and all the bombers to take out just the one Dreadnought. In terms of tactical thinking, he's a colossal dipshit. At least by the end of the film, he's developed as a character in the sense that he's learned that humility (reinforced when Holdo kamikazes into the Imperial fleet and isn't trying to run into every fight with nothing more than a do-or-die mentality. The Bee posted:The top changes in my books were Snoke being nothing and Rey having no lineage. The former stopped it from being samey, and the latter stopped it from being Muppet Babies. It also had the added effect of 1. Killing the typical JJ Abrams mystery box story-telling dead in its tracks, where a mysterious mystery of forbidden mysteries (it's mysteriously mysterious) typically gets strung out well beyond a logical point of reveal for the sake of it, only to end up underwhelming. 2. Revealing Rey's lineage as, I dunno, part of the Kenobi clan, or related to the Skywalkers or whatever, wouldn't have been far off from one of the more annoying parts of the Prequel Trilogy, in which it felt like half the characters were shoehorned in OT characters for the sake of it, like C3PO and R2-D2 - they're not the only droids in the loving galaxy are they? - or Chewbacca in Revenge of the Sith, where it felt reeaaaaally forced. edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Jun 3, 2018 |
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Sephyr posted:Solo must be -really- mediocre if people are re-litigating TLJ. Solo is a perfectly fine. I'd put it in the same orbit as Rogue One in terms of "Eh, this wasn't needed, but I appreciate it nonetheless." It's just that Last Jedi broke nerdbrains so loving hard that it has become the lens through which they view the entire world now. A movie they absolutely loath now lives rent free in their heads and will remain there until the day they all cease existing. Like I said, they all live in Hell now.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 00:39 |
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Sephyr posted:Then again, DSP apparently still makes about 70k+ a year, so maybe there will always be a floor of hardcore fanatics that will see you through. Really? Holy poo poo, I wold never have guessed that.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 00:42 |
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Puppy Time posted:I don't know about standard of living, but I can see spinning a YT career into marketing, at the very least. You don't get to be one of the big guys without being at least somewhat on the ball about getting an audience and keeping that audience. Perhaps, but it's dubious. There's a world of difference between herding your adoring but unruly fans and actually dealing with bosses and staff while getting a marketing project off the ground. Sure, some of them can likely make the transition fine if they have to, but I'd bet on "former child star" levels of dissonance crossing over into an office job.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 00:48 |
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How did three hours go by with Star Wars, without mention of HACK FRAUD™ Content? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcK4ioF8ODc E: Nevermind it didn't I'm just a bad reader.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 00:49 |
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bessantj posted:Really? Holy poo poo, I wold never have guessed that. Can't blame ya, its hard to believe he makes that much with how much he wants to cry about how broke he is.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 01:01 |
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Sephyr posted:For the bigger names, it's actually worse, because they are far more likely to be doing this full-time and from an early age. So if things crash they have a big void in their resumés called "2007-2018 Spicy Chimichanga Reaction Videos" instead of a career that could get you considered for a middle-class level job that will let you keep the high living standard your Youtube fame afforded you. It's a lot closer to, say, having been in a band that toured for six years, put out three albums, and actually had a minor hit or two on regional radio. Which is to say, yes, it's a giant void, but there's still plenty of jobs out there that'll go "oh, cool" and see it as, at the very least, a reasonable explanation and not a giant hole.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 01:04 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:i just don't get how some of these personalities get huge. i had never heard of ricegum until someone else dunked on him. then i watched some of his stuff and it doesn't make sense. he's an annoying dork. I think it really comes down to a huge chunk of the population being very easy to get with clickbait. I remain convinced that the true path to 1m+ subs is a total lack of integrity and strong thumbnail/title creation skills more than anything else.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 01:04 |
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This is actually a stealth star wars thread Is there actually a star wars thread in this forums??
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 01:07 |
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Ah, boy. I'm just so tired of all these Star Wars.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 01:13 |
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Tired Moritz posted:This is actually a stealth star wars thread Yes
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 01:14 |
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Lightning Knight posted:I think it really comes down to a huge chunk of the population being very easy to get with clickbait. I remain convinced that the true path to 1m+ subs is a total lack of integrity and strong thumbnail/title creation skills more than anything else. https://twitter.com/robwhisman/status/735281634656669696?lang=en
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 01:14 |
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https://twitter.com/robwhisman/status/735317544156991488
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Lightning Knight posted:I think it really comes down to a huge chunk of the population being very easy to get with clickbait. I remain convinced that the true path to 1m+ subs is a total lack of integrity and strong thumbnail/title creation skills more than anything else. I dunno man, my neptunia thumbnails haven't been working out too well What am I doing wrong? I got the red arrow AND the red circle, and that thing I notice happening more often where they take one image, copy and paste it, then move the 2 layers apart so each one takes half the shot, with one of them zoomed in. E: Oh and I did meme speak in the title with a wacky face!
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 01:18 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:i just don't get how some of these personalities get huge. i had never heard of ricegum until someone else dunked on him. then i watched some of his stuff and it doesn't make sense. he's an annoying dork. Teenagers. They have a lot of free time, a reasonable amount of disposable income, and loving love annoying dorks.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 01:19 |
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Sephyr posted:Solo must be -really- mediocre if people are re-litigating TLJ. There are skills involved that—provided you actually develop them and don’t just be a Doug—are quite valuable on the production and promotion end. A bigger problem might be getting typecast by youtube “fame” ie “aren’t you that guy who reviewed every Denny’s?,” which might make it hard to go straight once you’re off youtube. If you just do production work for commercials or Pokémon closed captions, probably nobody would care, though.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 01:22 |
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Contra's new video finally got me to the point of thinking "Enough skit, please just talk" like I've kind of felt coming on for a little now.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 01:25 |
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I wish people would loving shut up about Star Wars People like Ricegum...I kinda think they got big because they already had a fair bit of money and people behind them going in. Like, people who understood SEO and YouTube trends, which they were able to take advantage of. I mean, their content absolutely sucks massive amounts of cock, but they managed to ride some sort of twisted zeitgeist on the tubes. One of the weird things about this dumb place. Story time bullshit, stupid trend bullshit...you can go far if you get on that. He was also kinda able to get on the whole "let's make a disstrack/rap track about a YouTuber" as well, IIRC. The fake drama stuff that was ultimately really hit on by the Pauls, the Sidemen, all those folk. This is much more interesting than loving Star Wars bullshit, I really dislike what this series seems to have become. Although I did see someone say that apparently George Lucas gave up and sold Star Wars because of the fans...lol, yeah ok. I mean, it probably has more to do with the $4 billion that Disney spent to acquire Lucasfilm I was thinking these pages were gonna be about Contra's bullshit because it's apparently interesting in the way it treats the trans folk who aren't all on the super left wing, I really must watch that tomorrow.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 01:30 |
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Star Wars is fine and microphones are important but what I really need to know is, Dan Olson, where did you get that blue hoodie with the sort-of pixellish pattern on it? I need one.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 01:34 |
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the1janitor talks about why he stopped idolizing Sam Harrisand gets into his past of being an atheist shitlord and other things. Also Contra: I have small problems with most of her videos like how it feels like most videos don't make a point but maybe that's her style. Sometimes her videos don't make direct points but rather provide dialogs with lots of information to unpack.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 01:49 |
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Kim Justice posted:People like Ricegum...I kinda think they got big because they already had a fair bit of money and people behind them going in. Like, people who understood SEO and YouTube trends, which they were able to take advantage of. I mean, their content absolutely sucks massive amounts of cock, but they managed to ride some sort of twisted zeitgeist on the tubes. One of the weird things about this dumb place. Story time bullshit, stupid trend bullshit...you can go far if you get on that. He was also kinda able to get on the whole "let's make a disstrack/rap track about a YouTuber" as well, IIRC. The fake drama stuff that was ultimately really hit on by the Pauls, the Sidemen, all those folk. but he's bad at it. at least with the paul brothers one of them is handsome. ricegum is a dweeb. i think he even paid one of the top instagram models to pretend to be his girlfriend (cuz there's no way someone who looks like that was legit dating him).
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 01:49 |
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Which one is supposed to be handsome, they both look like colossal douchebags.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 01:52 |
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they do but douchebags can be handsome (it's logan, jake looks like a weirdo but probably still generically handsome).
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Groovelord Neato posted:but he's bad at it. at least with the paul brothers one of them is handsome. ricegum is a dweeb. i think he even paid one of the top instagram models to pretend to be his girlfriend (cuz there's no way someone who looks like that was legit dating him). Not all attractive people are shallow.
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# ? Jun 3, 2018 01:55 |
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if your claim to fame is your butt i got a feeling you don't look to inner beauty (ricegum is uglier on the inside anyway). related, it's insane how lovely these rich people pay their editors (this is the fake gf): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnMQFDyo2k8 she has 18 million instagram followers and initially offers just the ability to "grow" his channel and once she can monetize her videos he gets 50 bucks a pop.
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