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all i wanted was a retina air, but no they had to go and gently caress everything up
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 01:48 |
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timb should announce a 2015 rmbp that's maybe a little bit lighter and uses like, an A12 chip or something and have done with it imho
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 02:09 |
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timb should bring back the fukin magsafe is what timb should do
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 02:23 |
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Jony has spent too long in his airless white void dimension and needs someone like Steve to hit him around the head with a rolled up newspaper every once in a while, basically.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 02:35 |
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you can't blame jony for all this stuff. i'm sure the trashcan pro was his design, because it's driven by some sense of pure platonic aesthetic. but the touch bar? jony would make a mac without a keyboard entirely if it was possible to do so (coming july 2020). the touch bar is a marketing bullshit that came from timb because timb loves gimmicks and copying other shittier companies.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 02:38 |
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the touchbar isn't the most egregious failure of design with that laptop - it's the fact that the keyboard stands a good chance of never working ever again through non edge case use, and it's all down to Jony's thinner, lighter fetish. it's a case of "just because we can do this, should we?", and as trite as it is to blame everything on lack of Steve, I at least get the impression he would have been all "yo, can people actually use this keyboard to type?" edit: but that's not to say timb doesn't know what the gently caress to do with his product ecosystem beyond chasing competitors' shirt tails. Matinee fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Jun 4, 2018 |
# ? Jun 4, 2018 02:49 |
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Matinee posted:Jony has spent too long in his airless white void dimension and needs someone like Steve to hit him around the head with a rolled up newspaper every once in a while, basically. timb is going to have to taxidermy steve’s hand monkey paw style and wish upon it to stop jonys powerful curses
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 02:53 |
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Stringent posted:all i wanted was a retina air, but no they had to go and gently caress everything up Retina air keeps getting delayed because it would kill 12” and 13” mbp sales.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 02:56 |
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i would say that the thinner/lighter fetish is not entirely jony's fault. he's a talented industrial designer and i am sure he recognizes that making an unreliable lovely keyboard for the sake of saving an unnoticeable half millimeter is not good human interface design. remember when apple made those ads showing how the human thumb can sweep across the entirety of a 4" screen? they know these concepts -- they're just choosing not to apply them. why? well, "this much thinner than last year's model" and especially "this much thinner than competitors" are absolutely the kind of functionally meaningless metric that marketing loves to push on. i bet that's where that particular commandment is coming from -- not the design department.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 02:59 |
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eric posted:Retina air keeps getting delayed because it would kill 12” and 13” mbp sales. 12" macbook is the retina air hope this helps
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 03:02 |
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macbook airs have magsafe
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 03:06 |
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just imagining the tantrum that steve would have thrown over a non-functioning keyboard is entertaining. timb isn't capable of more than a severe half-frown.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 03:06 |
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that's all very good points. I was going to cite the 'reach of the human thumb' stuff in a point about how the thinner, lighter resulted in the camera wart on the iPhone 6 onwards. Lest we forget 'Reachability'. Maybe I"m just bitter that the handheld device with the form factor that is actually designed for the human hand has been relegated to C-tier at best. but, as you rightly say, that's all marketing.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 03:16 |
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Stringent posted:macbook airs have magsafe and usable ports + not needing dongles. battery life is good but choosing between charge and accessory is bubkis
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 03:17 |
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the screen on the new macbook pro is legit better than the 2015 but the rest is poo poo. attach the new screen to the old bottom, easy. thx for reading tim
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 03:32 |
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imagine a 40mm fan spinning at 6,000 rpm, forever
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 03:57 |
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making the phone thin enough to be comfortable with a case was good. cases are part of the designed product i don’t know what madness took over the mac hw group but i’ve heard they might have seen the light
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 04:14 |
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:imagine a 40mm fan spinning at 6,000 rpm, forever tbf that's any laptop with 5 electron apps open
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 04:17 |
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Stringent posted:macbook airs have magsafe macbooks air
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 04:18 |
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rjmccall posted:making the phone thin enough to be comfortable with a case was good. cases are part of the designed product i'd been pissed about this since i'd always run caseless, but i got one of the apple cases for my X since i'm not gonna upgrade for a while and it really does make a world of difference. the camera bulge makes a lot more sense now.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 04:36 |
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Endless Mike posted:macbooks air macsbook air
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 05:00 |
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pram posted:the screen on the new macbook pro is legit better than the 2015 but the rest is poo poo. attach the new screen to the old bottom, easy. thx for reading tim like how much better, coz this one is pretty good
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 05:12 |
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it's a modest incremental improvement that you won't really notice
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 05:16 |
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it’ll having cooling for 2 if those cores
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 05:25 |
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dammit why didn't my uncle who works for Nintendo tell me they were making a new mbp when I bought mine
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 05:55 |
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Sagebrush posted:i would say that the thinner/lighter fetish is not entirely jony's fault. he's a talented industrial designer and i am sure he recognizes that making an unreliable lovely keyboard for the sake of saving an unnoticeable half millimeter is not good human interface design. remember when apple made those ads showing how the human thumb can sweep across the entirety of a 4" screen? they know these concepts -- they're just choosing not to apply them. why? it's been beaten to death, but i wish they'd make a magic mouse shaped for the human hand, with the port on the end so you can use it while it's charging. Deiter Rams said "good design is honest," and hiding the port or shaping the mouse into a flat plastic slab is pretending it's something other than what it is, a handheld device that needs to be charged i know you're talking about the keyboard, but the mouse is just such a clear example of missing the point of industrial design, to make things people use everyday, and i think the keyboard issues are a result of the same thinking
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 06:16 |
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since the usability is always going to be inferior to the trackpad i guess they figured they'd just make it look nice?
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 06:19 |
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i've been thinking of getting the trackpad. is it really that good?
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 06:27 |
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trackpads are horrible input devices in general and it's regrettable that no manufacturer stuck with embedded trackballs
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 06:30 |
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Sagebrush posted:trackpads are horrible input devices in general and it's regrettable that no manufacturer stuck with embedded trackballs i don't think we're gonna get better evidence of how good the trackpad is than this
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 06:39 |
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Sagebrush posted:trackpads are horrible input devices in general and it's regrettable that no manufacturer stuck with embedded trackballs i have an old Microsoft serial trackball that’s made to clip onto... something, that I use with old laptops. it owns
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 09:07 |
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Luigi Thirty posted:dammit why didn't my uncle who works for Nintendo tell me they were making a new mbp when I bought mine when did you get yours? i remember someone asking whether they should get a new rmbp back in feb/march or so and i recommended them to wait because - everyone and their dog are upgrading their laptop line from dual core to quad and quad to hex with similar tdp - apple always get decent intel parts - rmbp hasn't been updated in a while but boy i'd still look really dumb if they dont release anything and the dude waited for nothing
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 09:25 |
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you forgot the most important reason to wait - the keyboard doesn't loving work
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 09:31 |
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betting they double down on that keybaord like theyll never revert. maybe improve
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 09:40 |
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Ideally it turns into such a huge embarrassment that they redesign it completely with complete dust and waterproofing. How hard could it be to seal the top case of the machine and use optical or magnetic sensing of the keypresses instead of cheap-rear end electrical membrane contacts? When you pay $3k or more for you stupid laptop it should really at least be able to deal with a spilled coffee cup without drowning the logic board.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 09:54 |
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the mba i had before my 2015 mbp is still my favorite laptop i've owned. the 12" macbook didn't really newt my seeds so i got the mbp which is good but not as good as the mba.
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 14:01 |
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r u ready to WALK posted:How hard could it be to seal the top case of the machine and use optical or magnetic sensing of the keypresses instead of cheap-rear end electrical membrane contacts? ...yes, i'm sure they could design an even worse keyboard to type on
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 14:15 |
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key travel is for chumps, here type on this capacitive touch screen all day instead, now we can make the MBP out of two ipads pro and a hinge
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 14:16 |
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just revert back - it was perfect
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 14:19 |
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force touch keyboard lmao
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# ? Jun 4, 2018 14:22 |