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SalTheBard posted:MAFIA EDIT: Council aligned is the pseudo Miller I am also council aligned as I mentioned before I'm really annoyed that I let go of the Keane case
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SalTheBard posted:MAFIA EDIT: Ecco is DEFINITELY not above making a cult cop in a game with no cult
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Moatillata posted:Council aligned is the pseudo Miller It's never too late to grab on again
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Sorry about missing the deadline last night, I'm with my girlfriend all week and I had health care stuff to do with her.Moatillata posted:Council aligned is the pseudo Miller These flip shenanigans are definitely going to confuse things. But on the other hand, do we have any proof that you'll win with town?
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I've read the end of day I missed yesterday and I'm still unclear why anyone was voting Tired Moritz
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Hal Incandenza posted:Ecco is DEFINITELY not above making a cult cop in a game with no cult This happened last ecco game, I was a cult cop in a cultless game.
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Meinberg posted:Sorry about missing the deadline last night, I'm with my girlfriend all week and I had health care stuff to do with her. ##vote meinberg
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Jun 5, 2018 19:49
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kill all non-town pod, what the gently caress man
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Hal Incandenza posted:I've read the end of day I missed yesterday and I'm still unclear why anyone was voting Tired Moritz pod hijacked the thread to prevent a soda lynch
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Jun 5, 2018 19:53
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I'm sorry I missed the end of yesterday, did not intend to drop a vote and run and still have a bunch of posts to read.
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Setup speculation / content game: 1. Will there be any scum flips in this game or will all scum flip as ambiguous factions? 2. Are the scum all part of the same faction (i.e. one of the factions is scum), or distributed amongst the factions. We've seen "council" and AS claimed she will flip "wild" and there could be more. I'm hoping if there are no scum flips then at least they are all part of the same faction cause otherwise the game seems impossible to solve through scum hunting and analysis. At least if a faction is scum, its reasonable that we'll know which faction that is by some midgame/endgame point via night actions (copping, kill tracking) My guess is just that: no scum flips, and one faction is all scum. I'm curious what other people think, just to get on the record.
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Jun 5, 2018 20:03
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Council aligned isn't the pseudo miller, that's the town alignment lol
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Council aligned isn't the pseudo miller, that's the town alignment lol I am town aligned
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Jun 5, 2018 20:56
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b-minus1 posted:I am town aligned 
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Jun 5, 2018 20:56
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Lol nvm. So were db and tm. I’m not special
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Jun 5, 2018 20:57
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I am council-aligned in flavor but town-aligned mechanically. Are council and town not interchangeable??? Because that's how my PM reads
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Jun 5, 2018 20:58
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I’m not sure.
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Jun 5, 2018 21:00
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We should have killed soda yesterday. Good job pod smh
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Jun 5, 2018 21:01
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b-minus1 posted:We should have killed soda yesterday. Good job pod smh Lol right? I'm more worries about the add ons to his push than him
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Lol right? My PM is "town aligned" FYI, I don't think it says "council" anywhere
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Hal Incandenza posted:My PM is "town aligned" FYI, I don't think it says "council" anywhere Eh, well I'm not going to split hairs over it. Soda is probably good, I don't want to spend today talking about it. I also have a good feeling about Pod/BK with fresh eyes.
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The interactions between DickyB and Podima feel off to me. I see Podima going hard at him and then going around and voting for Tiny. I might be jumping at nothing, but looking through DickyB’s history, it’s only with Podima that anything jumps out.
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Eh, well I'm not going to split hairs over it. Soda is probably good, I don't want to spend today talking about it. I also have a good feeling about Pod/BK with fresh eyes. Well I don't know if it's splitting hairs. At least to me in my PM there is nothing to make it seem like "town" and "council" (or "wild") are interchangeable. Are you saying your wincon is "all scum players are removed from game" Not sure what to think about that, but Inquisitor is not a friendly sounding role that is for sure
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Pinterest Mom posted:
Just to revisit this (PMom did not like my "maybe scum don't know they are scum") I have been in multiple games where I was of an alignment I assumed was the "town" alignment and it was implied I was the good guys but it turned out I was in fact on the bad-guy team without my knowledge. I'm not even saying that is what is going on in this game, but I'm saying it HAS happened before and should not be dismissed entirely. I will move on to other things now, thanks for your time everyone.
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Catching up:Monathin posted:That seems reasonable enough. However: I didn't think AS was the right vote yesterday and instead voted for the person who seemed to be doing a whole lot of role and flavor-fishing. CCKeane posted:I mean Sober is voting the towniest player in the game so obvs something is going on there.  Slamburger posted:My further setup speculation thoughts are that if there are more ambiguous flips, thats very anti-town and (one would hope) would be balanced by more investigative roles. The fact that a PGO claimed is actually really good in light of this possibility and could end up being very pro-town. I like this post a lot. Slam's willingness to both reconsider his own position on AS as well as consider her claim from this aspect give me a strong town read on him. Podima posted:This post, and Moritz's posting in general, pings me as falsely engaged. Also, going back to this: I like all of this too. As I'm rereading here I don't recall specifically who Pod replaced but this line of inquiry is good. Podima posted:All three of them have claimed to flip as non-town alignments. The "likely" was simply in reference to this being an Eccogame, as well as there being scum redirectors (to my recollection, anyway) is several of the last few games I was in. I suppose I could have thrown a question mark on the end of "likely" but I figured that with no info it was more probable than not that scum had that option. Monathin posted:Sober's turn on Keane after he and I had our huge discussion is -really- weird and I would not voting for him today due to that. My vote for Keane was more in reference to what Moat had to say about him than anything you and he talked about? I know I was skimming yesterday but I don't specifically recall anything discussed between you too, although you certainly seem to be Keane's biggest cheerleader as D1 ends. Hal Incandenza posted:I've read the end of day I missed yesterday and I'm still unclear why anyone was voting Tired Moritz Me too. Slamburger posted:Setup speculation / content game: Do we have any reason to believe at this point that there "could be more" factions? The rest of your post makes some sense to me. Anomalous Amalgam posted:I am council-aligned in flavor but town-aligned mechanically. Are council and town not interchangeable??? Because that's how my PM reads Hal Incandenza posted:My PM is "town aligned" FYI, I don't think it says "council" anywhere Neither does mine. Hal Incandenza posted:Not sure what to think about that, but Inquisitor is not a friendly sounding role that is for sure From Mona's flip? I think that's just Ecco's flavor for the role she went on to describe in the flip.
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IllegallySober posted:From Mona's flip? I think that's just Ecco's flavor for the role she went on to describe in the flip. Where was the role described? I feel like I am missing something.
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Hal Incandenza posted:Where was the role described? I feel like I am missing something. Oh in the flavor, never mind. Hmmmmm
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Hal Incandenza posted:Oh in the flavor, never mind. Hmmmmm Real-life inquisitors thought they were searching for malevolent things in people too but they were bad dudes FLAVOR ARGUMENTS BEST ARGUMENTS
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b-minus1 posted:kill all non-town b-minus1 posted:We should have killed soda yesterday. Good job pod smh this is a weird line given that pod likely shares an alignment with Soda/Mona?? Like, "cult cop" tells me council are pro-town (+ sheer number of people openly claiming) Hal Incandenza posted:Just to revisit this (PMom did not like my "maybe scum don't know they are scum") I have been in multiple games where I was of an alignment I assumed was the "town" alignment and it was implied I was the good guys but it turned out I was in fact on the bad-guy team without my knowledge. I mean, sure, Ecco game but we had no in-thread reason to believe it at the time, which makes me think that maybe you have additional knowledge about the setup you're not sharing (which, maybe fair, but maybe suspish), and now we have 2 NKs, both unclaimed, so kinda moot
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Slamburger posted:Setup speculation / content game: idk, two NKs tells me we probably have a traditional scum faction
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Atomic Soda posted:i'm awake and catching up, have a case to make on keane oh hm
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Pinterest Mom posted:wait is it literally the case the AS isn't council aligned, I guess I'd lumped her in with pod/mona No she said she was "wild" aligned or something like that and that she lived in the woods
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Since I've mostly been thinking about setup and mechanics, its time for some reads and brief cases: Top pick AA Promised reads but never really gave any. His votes were all pretty empty and bandwagony. Has repeatedly brought up his "town" role PM but seems like he might not be getting the details right or just cribbing from the sample PM: Anomalous Amalgam posted:I am council-aligned in flavor but town-aligned mechanically. Are council and town not interchangeable??? Because that's how my PM reads Second pick Keane His aggressive posting and "gotcha" kind of stuff about the claims/mechanics reads a little fake to me. Also this pinged me as fake/scummy: CCKeane posted:You can vote me out without too much headache, sure, but since we're at: Third pick Sal for a scum lurker. Mostly I want to hear from reads from Sal. ##vote AA
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Slamburger posted:
 So I'm confused why AS wasn't the target yesterday and I find Pods flip flopping really weird. Would vote Pod first.Would also vote out AS as well just to get the Death Miller PGO out of the game
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Slamburger posted:
And goddamn do we really have to go through this again? I have more posts than you do so I'm hardly loving lurking.
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SalTheBard posted:And goddamn do we really have to go through this again? I have more posts than you do so I'm hardly loving lurking. I mean, I'm not exactly posting up a storm either but nearly half of your posts in this thread are from before the game started, plus another few during jokephase, so the post count measuring game probably isn't the best argument to be making right now.
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The more that people like Sal and B- push for AS to be dunked, the more I'm starting to believe that the scum team does not, in fact, have a redirector, or a better way to deal with her.
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 My bad. I posted in this thread and then saw the game was full. Didn't mean to not be here!
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IllegallySober posted:I mean, I'm not exactly posting up a storm either but nearly half of your posts in this thread are from before the game started, plus another few during jokephase, so the post count measuring game probably isn't the best argument to be making right now. This was Scum Slamburgers MO last game I was in. Again I don't like being called a lurker when I'm not lurking. IllegallySober posted:The more that people like Sal and B- push for AS to be dunked, the more I'm starting to believe that the scum team does not, in fact, have a redirector, or a better way to deal with her. I could be willing to believe that as well, however the argument that was put forward is that the longer AS is in the game the more of a liability they become for Town. I don't see why that is so controversial. But if you think AS isn't worth looking into and should be left alone I'm willing to stop pushing on AS.
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