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Good, so it DID work. I waa bugged by pixaal to dig deeper into my code for anything that could be causing slowdown. All i could find was a big blob of "sendwillrendercanvas" calls taking up 70% of the render time and my scripts only like 10% so i had no idea what i could do to help. But then I saw two minor scripts ocassionally blip up in render time. One controls the text on the sellout shop saying "you have X Arbitrary points" and ditto for the exp menu. They updated every frame. On a lark i set them to only update if that specific menu is up. That suddenly dropped the "sendwillrendercanvases" calls down dramatically. What I think happened is the exp and sellout shop are actually a seperate canvas for each tab and those two tiny scripts told every canvas, every frame, to update visually, even if not on-screen. Programming is so easy to gently caress up 
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something posted:Programming is so easy to gently caress up Every time I write software with a stupid, lovely bug, I think to myself, "At least I'm not working on medical devices." BTW I started playing a few weeks ago, it's much improved since the beta! I feel like there's always something just over the horizon to work toward, which is the hallmark of a well-designed idle game. Excellent job!
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Just started a troll run - first popup was "lose your magic" - with choices of HURR and DURR which I assume were just both confirmations ala the updated screen. It would be amusing to use the popup to let the player 'choose' which to lose, energy or magic, and then randomly ignore them or switch. Same end result, twice the frustration, e.g. ARGH why did I say I wanted to lose energy, it took my magic! And then the reverse next time, or maybe not
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something posted:Programming is so easy to gently caress up Game programming more so on account of the doing poo poo all the time but not wanting it to do ALL the poo poo all the time. At least when I have a bug in a batch script I can step through until something stupid happens.
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shs posted:I posted this about 100 years ago and then was sucked into a black hole of work, but I managed to escape and now you can play the game for reals. This is the an actual release, not a test version like last time.
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Jun 6, 2018 05:25
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shs posted:Both versions are identical, but if you play the Kongregate version and have an account with them, your save data will automatically be backed up online. If you play it on my website, it'll save locally unless you create a cloud save account.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:feedback: I can't Tab between fields on the "create a cloud save account" page on your local website That's something I'm aware of but for a simple thing it takes a surprising amount of effort to implement  I assure you the rest of the game has much more effort put into it
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Uhm, how do you buy anything other than Attack Up upgrades? Does that come later? edit: Nevermind, apparently that's through mastery upgrades. edit2: One small gripe/pet peeve is that you unlock daily missions before you can do most of them. I'd sure love to do infusions and start a mission, but I have no idea how or what they even are and when they unlock. edit3: Also holy smokes that scaling. The first two bosses felt well balanced and just manageable, suddenly the level 30 boss is just a huge wad of HP and I can barely make him maybe half dead before the enrage timer kicks in. The grind is real and if that's par for the course, eh. Like, I know this is an idle game, but everyone knows you gotta feed the players rewards and progress in the first few hours. Oenis fucked around with this message at 10:06 on Jun 6, 2018 |
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shs posted:That's something I'm aware of but for a simple thing it takes a surprising amount of effort to implement Elixirs are a little vague. I'm not sure what the xp numbers are on them, if they are supposed to pop into inventory or if they are their own screen, or really how violet nuggets affect them.
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Small ngu feature request: Clicking should dismiss timed pop-ups
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something posted:Big troll doing nothing was a bug, oops. I just pushed out an un-numbered update now to fix the small post-patch issues that always crop up. I kind of think it should be like a 1-2% chance, I was insanely paranoid for a few minutes, checking every single menu to see what had been affected
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Finished 2 Troll Challenges for the accessory slots (6 slots is amazing), but I don't have it in me for the next one yet. You really need to get your stats up for these because the longer they go, the more your features get disabled for the rebirth and your boss multiplier gets reduced. Getting NGU disabled marks the end of progression for a given rebirth, so I often had to rebirth with less than 1000x improvement. Made for really slow going to get to boss 84. I really want that beard slot but what a brutal challenge. Really fun and dynamic. Does the trolling get worse as you complete challenges or is it just harder because you have to push higher bosses?
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shs posted:I posted this about 100 years ago and then was sucked into a black hole of work, but I managed to escape and now you can play the game for reals. This is the an actual release, not a test version like last time. I really like some of your older games, specifically Spaceport Command and Idle Raid Guild. Any plans to remake them?
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Oenis posted:Uhm, how do you buy anything other than Attack Up upgrades? Does that come later? The level 30 boss is a wall but you should be beatable within an hour or two of reaching him if you're using all the mechanics available to you. The game does have a lot of little features that aren't immediately obvious, though. Some of the information here might help: https://www.kongregate.com/forums/1002340-ef-universe-endless-battle/topics/1635692-faq-for-newer-players After you beat him everything you need to complete daily bonuses is available. Elixirs work like this: Press Create -> Receive permanent stat increase. Violet nuggets make them 35% stronger. This is something I'll add to the confirmation prompt in the next update. Dr. Arbitrary posted:I really like some of your older games, specifically Spaceport Command and Idle Raid Guild. Any plans to remake them? I wouldn't count on it. Working on this game plus the other game I'm making are extremely time intensive and I have very little time for anything else.
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SynthesisAlpha posted:Does the trolling get worse as you complete challenges or is it just harder because you have to push higher bosses? The Troll Timer goes down by 10 seconds with each challenge. So on challenge 7 you will have 1 minute Trolls and 5 minute Big Trolls... And yeah, I gave up after the 2nd one. The following rewards just aren't that tempting for me to completely lose (what's left of) my sanity.
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shs posted:The level 30 boss is a wall but you should be beatable within an hour or two of reaching him if you're using all the mechanics available to you. The game does have a lot of little features that aren't immediately obvious, though. Some of the information here might help: I think something that would help is that if you click on the daily bonus line item, it took you to the feature page for that. So like, if I click on "infuse 4 items", take me to the Enhance Weapon page or whatever.
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Numberwang posted:The Troll Timer goes down by 10 seconds with each challenge. So on challenge 7 you will have 1 minute Trolls and 5 minute Big Trolls... Man that IS brutal. I feel like Energy/Magic bars and Stat Boosts for Rich Jerks are absolutely essential for higher level troll challenges. You lose your energy/magic pretty often and you can't rely on augments, NGU, or Beards for the stats to push forward. I guess if you can get everything high enough you can hope like hell you don't get a big troll that hoses you too much and just 15 min rebirth until you make it but drat. This thing is an actual challenge, rather than just a task with some locked elements.
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I see Realm Grinder uses flash. Is there a popular clicker that doesn't use that with as many replay/extended play features as Realm Grinder apparently has?
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Fooma posted:I see Realm Grinder uses flash. Is there a popular clicker that doesn't use that with as many replay/extended play features as Realm Grinder apparently has? the steam client of realm grinder
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If anyone tried to play my game earlier in the day, you might've encountered a ton of errors. The game's back end service provider decided to crash and burn and take me with them, but it's "probably" fixed now. Such great timing  If you look at these graphs you can probably identify when the issue took place 
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NGU question: Is there an "activate all fruits you can" button or hotkey for Yggdrasil? If not, that'd make a good reward/shop option/etc.
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Jade Rider posted:NGU question: Is there an "activate all fruits you can" button or hotkey for Yggdrasil? If not, that'd make a good reward/shop option/etc. There are the Auto Ygg Activation purchases in the EXP Shop, shoot for those. Combined with the shiny new Harvest All Max Fruits button, you should be set.
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What should I be looking to upgrade next in NGU, or at which point should I actually start looking at magic and dumping some serious XP into it? I'm just about to complete the 24h challenge for the first time and I've beaten GRB 1 time and have 2 pieces of his gear. Just not sure what I should be looking at specifically next, I just finished getting energy power to 50.  
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Scorps posted:What should I be looking to upgrade next in NGU, or at which point should I actually start looking at magic and dumping some serious XP into it? I'm just about to complete the 24h challenge for the first time and I've beaten GRB 1 time and have 2 pieces of his gear. Just not sure what I should be looking at specifically next, I just finished getting energy power to 50. I'm not 100% on the current early game, but I'd get Mspd up to 25, and then start pushing for more Ecap, with the occasional Mcap. Probably also get Mpwr up to 5 at some point.
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Scorps posted:What should I be looking to upgrade next in NGU, or at which point should I actually start looking at magic and dumping some serious XP into it? I'm just about to complete the 24h challenge for the first time and I've beaten GRB 1 time and have 2 pieces of his gear. Just not sure what I should be looking at specifically next, I just finished getting energy power to 50. One of us is doing something very, very wrong. I'm much further along than you (idling in Clockwork, at boss 97) and have a similar energy cap, lower base energy power, and around the same energy bars. However, I have significantly higher magic stats. [edit] Have you been maxing out the equipment sets as you went along for the bonuses? The Cave and Magitek sets have really good bonuses. I screwed up and threw everything out and had to go back and farm the Cave and Forest sets. New Yorp New Yorp fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Jun 7, 2018 |
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@shs: Any word on any of this?Toshimo posted:Endless Battle: Also:
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Also, opening a lootbox to find it contains another lootbox that you have to wait even longer to open is the sort of trolly thing somethingggg would do.
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Toshimo posted:I'm not 100% on the current early game, but I'd get Mspd up to 25, and then start pushing for more Ecap, with the occasional Mcap. Probably also get Mpwr up to 5 at some point. Energy cap is probably the thing to buy if you don't have anything you're aiming for because it lets you spread across more features, especially NGU which is only affected by the amount allocated and not by power. Magic is used for Wandoos (not great in early game due to low OS level), Blood Magic (quicker climbs in late stage rebirths and permanent adventure stats every 24 hours, plus farming gold/equip in mid/end game), NGU, and a couple late-game Yggdrasil seeds that require a minimum of 3 million. It's better for post half hour rebirthing when you have a couple titans unlocked and can farm exp off them automatically instead of actively playing.
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Sage Grimm posted:Energy cap is probably the thing to buy if you don't have anything you're aiming for because it lets you spread across more features, especially NGU which is only affected by the amount allocated and not by power. Magic is used for Wandoos (not great in early game due to low OS level), Blood Magic (quicker climbs in late stage rebirths and permanent adventure stats every 24 hours, plus farming gold/equip in mid/end game), NGU, and a couple late-game Yggdrasil seeds that require a minimum of 3 million. It's better for post half hour rebirthing when you have a couple titans unlocked and can farm exp off them automatically instead of actively playing. Power absolutely does effect NGU, I just tested it swapping accessories out. It's only Wandoos that is completely unaffected. I don't know if it's the square root of the power or the full power though. The Iron pill spell also has a cooldown of 12 hours, not 24.
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Sage Grimm posted:Energy cap is probably the thing to buy if you don't have anything you're aiming for because it lets you spread across more features, especially NGU which is only affected by the amount allocated and not by power. Magic is used for Wandoos (not great in early game due to low OS level), Blood Magic (quicker climbs in late stage rebirths and permanent adventure stats every 24 hours, plus farming gold/equip in mid/end game), NGU, and a couple late-game Yggdrasil seeds that require a minimum of 3 million. It's better for post half hour rebirthing when you have a couple titans unlocked and can farm exp off them automatically instead of actively playing. Energy power absolutely affects NGU. Wandoos is only affected by amount, and advanced training uses the square root of power. NGU gets the full effect of your energy or magic power. More energy and magic stats will always be the key to pushing further. Everything revolves around those stats and more is always better. If you're still doing sub-hour rebirths make sure you have enough speed/bars to cap quickly.
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I just finished my first troll challenge and I realized I'd been neglecting my bars stat because I do long runs. Fixing that now, it'll be good for my beard growth and it'll be good for the troll challenges. Also, please make more game mechanics that make me sound like an absolute madman to the uninitiated.
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Manyorcas posted:Power absolutely does effect NGU.. SynthesisAlpha posted:Energy power absolutely affects NGU. gently caress me, thanks for the corrections both of you.
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Just to clarify something, the troll timer reduction isnt -10s for every completion. It goes 2:00, 1:50, 1:40 , 1:30, 1:25, 1:20, 1:15. And for the next build, I will make the boss multi divider a big troll and only happen one per rebirth. If you got bad rng it could completely destroy your run which i think is a bit too cruel even for this challenge.
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something posted:Just to clarify something, the troll timer reduction isnt -10s for every completion. It goes 2:00, 1:50, 1:40 , 1:30, 1:25, 1:20, 1:15. I think that's a good change. I will say that the troll challenge is the one thing that's made me actually close the game and leave it closed instead of just half-paying attention to it, since leaving it up for a long period had actively bad consequences.
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something posted:Just to clarify something, the troll timer reduction isnt -10s for every completion. It goes 2:00, 1:50, 1:40 , 1:30, 1:25, 1:20, 1:15. That's awesome and is the main thing preventing me from doing more. Even if every feature gets disabled you can still make some progress, but limiting that troll to one per run means you won't be totally crippled from an overnight run. You probably need to rebuild your time machine and all your blood magic and augments but at least you won't slide backwards in Number if you rebirth and abandon that run. Also you should make the popups move each time you click one away, or literally fill the screen with 50 dialog boxes. It's too easy to just spam-click them away!
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Sounds like I'll bump magic up some and just keep increasing cap keeping a decent ratio. I do have the full cave set maxed, and am about halfway done maxing the Magitech set. I have done up to to boss ~85 or so I just think I was playing really really sub optimally until just recently. I have been trying to do 30-60m runs but I am playing pretty casually in the background at work so I am ok with the slower progress. I'll just keep plugging away, I just unlocked NGU and have gotten 10-15 levels in a couple things I really should leave it idling for a day or two on NGU gold or something for a real boost.
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Toshimo posted:@shs: Any word on any of this? You can post here and I'll read it, but 99%+ of the people playing the game are on Kongregate so that's where I spend most of my time. It's actually kind of strange watching 200+ people slam themselves into the game.
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There's a game someone posted in the incremental games subreddit that is apparently a solitary game with an ending, called MONIES^2 There seem to be a few phases to the game, the first phase is unlocking things, then getting ☺s, and upgrading buildings. It wasn't obvious that I wasn't stalled out after that phase, so the next phase unlocks at 2 Million ♠.
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