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Silver Falcon posted:HyWar Impa looks more like Skyward Sword Impa to me. Totally agreed about Groose though. Why can't we have both? I just really dislike Lana. Well, because Sheik is technically repping OoT too, alongside Impa technically repping SS to get around OoT and SS only having 2 actual characters repping their franchises despite being focus games of the base HW game.
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Silver Falcon posted:HyWar Impa looks more like Skyward Sword Impa to me. Totally agreed about Groose though. Why can't we have both? I just really dislike Lana. Lana is cool and strong and my friend, and I will not hear any disagreement.
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Jun 6, 2018 15:45
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chumbler posted:Lana is cool and strong and my friend, and I will not hear any disagreement. Meh. I like her better than Linkle, probably because of the magic user vibe she has going for her.
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Kamikaze Raider posted:That makes me curious. Is there any chance that we may see some DLC for DE? There are definitely more characters they could potentially add, but I don't know if there are any post-release plans for the game. I'd be surprised since it might undercut the whole "definitive" name, and the closest comparison, MK8:D, didn't get any additional DLC. But this is a separate team/company, so who knows. I dont remember when they announced the DLC for the WiiU/3DS games, but it feels like if we don't hear anything at E3, I'd probably count DLC out.
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I think I'd rather they just announce a new Nintendo series to "Warrior-ize" at e3.
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JazzFlight posted:I think I'd rather they just announce a new Nintendo series to "Warrior-ize" at e3. like animal crossing  Bongo Bill posted:Dynasty Warios
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Jun 6, 2018 16:37
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JazzFlight posted:I think I'd rather they just announce a new Nintendo series to "Warrior-ize" at e3. How many Mario characters are there?
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GreatGreen posted:How many Mario characters are there? A poo poo ton, considering they made Warriors game for much smaller rosters
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GreatGreen posted:How many Mario characters are there? Do Not Pursue Shy Guy
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Jun 6, 2018 16:39
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FPzero posted:Next Smash Bros replaces Adventure Mode with warriors mode Certainly has room to be more fun then subspace.
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JazzFlight posted:I think I'd rather they just announce a new Nintendo series to "Warrior-ize" at e3. Maybe we get Hyrule X Fire Emblem Warriors next? Hopefully without most of the FE cast being from two games. Also was doing Master Quest to get the level 3 weapon for Linkle and Impa until I hit the tiles that need the harp to progress. Hit several spots and now the only one that I can go is a Agatha only map with no blocking. 
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Jun 6, 2018 16:44
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Advance Wars Musou you cowards
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Osu! Tatake! Ouendan! Musou
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BIG BUFF MAN posted:Osu! Tatake! Ouendan! Musou  especially if EBA is included
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Oxyclean posted:I'd be surprised since it might undercut the whole "definitive" name, and the closest comparison, MK8:D, didn't get any additional DLC. But this is a separate team/company, so who knows. I dont remember when they announced the DLC for the WiiU/3DS games, but it feels like if we don't hear anything at E3, I'd probably count DLC out. I think the DLC for the previous versions were announced fairly early in their lives, so you're probably right.
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Tae posted:A poo poo ton, considering they made Warriors game for much smaller rosters mushroom kingdom warriors when? e: mush-ou
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While I wouldn't mind getting Groose, I surprised the champions from BotW don't get added. At least as unique skins for Ruto and Darunia for
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Rirse posted:While I wouldn't mind getting Groose, I surprised the champions from BotW don't get added. At least as unique skins for Ruto and Darunia for You get BotW costumes for Link and Zelda, but yeah, the representation of BotW is surprisingly sparse considering this version was made specifically for the Switch.
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Rirse posted:Maybe we get Hyrule X Fire Emblem Warriors next? Hopefully without most of the FE cast being from two games. Gotta wait for a couple sequels to Fire Emblem Warriors then so that other characters get movesets as well. I doubt they'd want to debut Ike and Roy in a crossover with another Musou before appearing in a proper Fire Emblem Musou. EDIT: BTW the No Guarding Rule also removes the Damage Taken Rank so only KOs and time matter.
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chumbler posted:Lana is cool and strong and my friend, and I will not hear any disagreement. If she would shut up, I would agree with you. I can't stand her voice. She's fun to play but I HATE listening to her. Folt The Bolt posted:Meh. I like her better than Linkle, probably because of the magic user vibe she has going for her. Fite me, Linkle is the best.
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Silver Falcon posted:Fite me, Linkle is the best. YUK YUK YUK YUK
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Silver Falcon posted:If she would shut up, I would agree with you. I can't stand her voice. She's fun to play but I HATE listening to her.
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Kamikaze Raider posted:She can't be more annoying than Skull Kid though. PLAY A SECOND NOTE, FOR THE LOVE OF loving GOD He doesn't know how to play it, that's kinda a thing with him
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Silver Falcon posted:IFite me, Linkle is the best. YO~TA! YO~TA! YO~TA! YO~TA!
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Silver Falcon posted:Fite me, Linkle is the best. absolutely everything about her crossbow moveset is so satisfying, and i love that her soldiers in legends mode are cuccos hylian captains can eat a dick but I'll always save Mama Cucco
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Xad posted:He doesn't know how to play it, that's kinda a thing with him Oh, I get why he plays it like that, but it doesn't make it any less annoying. Should have just given him his drat flute.
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Fitzy Fitz posted:YUK I thought she was going yeeugh like pusha t
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Kamikaze Raider posted:Oh, I get why he plays it like that, but it doesn't make it any less annoying. Should have just given him his drat flute. It's my problem with playing both him and Marin. I love both characters (and usually have on a podcast or stream so I can tune it out) , but I'm sure it drives my fiance mad when she's in the same room.
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Now that I think of it, a Hyrule Warriors x Fire Emblem Warriors crossover do need to overcome some not-insignificant hurdles. How would stats be handled? Movesets? What would be the best way to make playing Zelda characters feel like you're playing a Zelda character and playing a FE character feel like you're playing an FE character, while still working off of the same core mechanics? How would an FE character interact with elements that are indubitably Zelda and vice versa? How would weapons work?
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Folt The Bolt posted:Now that I think of it, a Hyrule Warriors x Fire Emblem Warriors crossover do need to overcome some not-insignificant hurdles. The obvious answer would be to create a new system that doesn't fit perfectly into either but rather hybridizes it. So instead of a Sword/Lance/Axe weapon triangle you could do a Edge/Pierce/Blunt one which could encompass most weapons. The real oddballs and magic can still be their own bespoke category outside of this that interacts with it like Magic does in Hyrule Warriors. (You'd also kill a few sacred cows by making Axes into clubs/hammers to fill out the blunt damage for the FE characters) I would also take a page from Super Robot Wars and keep the Zelda characters all have their own weapons while the Fire Emblem characters are defined by being able to move the weapons around to other characters in their weapon class. Alternatively, you could just go full unique weapons for everyone since I didn't really find the generic weapons compelling and FE warriors eventually gave everyone a unique special weapon anyways. You could probably make that work overall if you had to mash the two games together. I'd also probably go for an expansion of the elemental system and tie it into weaknesses. So enemies would be weak to an element (So fliers would be weak to lightning which would be the innate element of all bows) etc. Zore fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Jun 6, 2018 |
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Zore posted:The obvious answer would be to create a new system that doesn't fit perfectly into either but rather hybridizes it. I'd actually prefer to keep the elemental effects separate from the -slayer weaknesses. Just keep them as skills if you need to. Might be best to remove elemental weaknesses altogether. On the other hand, letting the Zelda characters have their own weapons while the FE characters simply select from a pool of generic weapons (+ their Prf which would be their ultimate weapon) would be ace. Actually, giving this, I'd say the Zelda characters should only have one weapon each (while making Link's Master Sword into the ultimate weapon of the Hylian Sword line for this). While losing options hurt, most characters are better off with their primary weapon. Also, if we're simplifying the triangle that way, I'd say Ganondorf (with the Great Swords as his weapon) should be a Magic type character despite his weapon. All of his moves that aren't string and C2 are basically magic attacks (including C4 which is just slashing to make a pseudo-barrier to blast away). Also, we'd all love it if they weren't in, but if Giant Bosses do appear, we'd need to find a satisfactory way to make both Zelda and FE characters interact with them.
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The problem with combining Zelda and Fire Emblem is that Zelda roolz, FE droolz
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Folt The Bolt posted:I'd actually prefer to keep the elemental effects separate from the -slayer weaknesses. Just keep them as skills if you need to. Might be best to remove elemental weaknesses altogether. I like the elemental system and wanted to keep it even if some of the effects should be reworked. It fits even with the FE characters, most of them have an elemental affinity with their attacks anyways. quote:
This I heavily disagree with however. What is even the point of making Link just another sword dude when he already has a bunch of other fun movesets like the Gauntlets or Spinner? Like you don't need to borify Zelda just because FE Warriors kinda sucked on this. I'd be happier if they expanded the FE movesets. quote:
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Giant bosses rule  Honestly you could do a BOTW style Sheikah slate to summon various things, simplify the secondary weapons down to Bombs, Stasis, Magnesis and have them apply to multiple big bosses? IDK
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Your Computer posted:The problem with combining Zelda and Fire Emblem is that Zelda roolz, FE droolz
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At least with some it easier to make them into magic types that might fix probblem characters like Agiatha or Fi.
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Zore posted:I like the elemental system and wanted to keep it even if some of the effects should be reworked. It fits even with the FE characters, most of them have an elemental affinity with their attacks anyways. Maybe for attack purposes, but when being attacked, most FE characters don't really need an elemental weakness due to the weapon triangle system. Zore posted:This I heavily disagree with however. What is even the point of making Link just another sword dude when he already has a bunch of other fun movesets like the Gauntlets or Spinner? Like you don't need to borify Zelda just because FE Warriors kinda sucked on this. I'd be happier if they expanded the FE movesets. To make this short, it has to do with the Edge/Pierce/Blunt system you mentioned. If Link had every weapon he used in Hyrule Warriors here, he would have loads of way to get around the system (even compared to characters from his own franchise) which means people would flock to him above all others. Also, for purposes of the triangle, he'd always be a sword user when facing him anyways. If you really want the Zelda characters to have multiple weapons, I think it's better that they all exist outside the triangle system. Zore posted:Sure. I'd like if they also had the Trident as a pierce weapon because I love the Trident moveset It would be that, wouldn't it? Zore posted:Giant bosses rule Not really. On another topic, should there exist physical and magical damage, like in Fire Emblem Warriors, or should there be just one attack stat. I think the answer to that would determine what we would need to do think about, in terms of choice characters, more carefully.
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this crossover business sounds like a pain. they should just give everybody more weapons in zelda and also add spider puppet ganon from ww
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