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Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

JawnV6 posted:

your a bad poster who makes every thread worse by posting

:woop:

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pram
Jun 10, 2001

JawnV6 posted:

your a bad poster who makes every thread worse by posting

:drat:

FCKGW
May 21, 2006


jfc

LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop
i just discovered Safari isn’t shielded by other active windows to trigger rollover states, meaning i can have a finder window on top of safari and hovering the cursor over finder still activates the rollover states on the webpage under it

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
lmao

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

the only time i ever use safari is to watch apple livestreams

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
i like mobile safari over mobile chrome because i can tell mobile safari that i'm in private mode and it will open every single new link, even ones from a third-party app, in a private mode tab until i tell it that i don't want to be in private mode anymore

LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop

anthonypants posted:

i like mobile safari over mobile chrome because i can tell mobile safari that i'm in private mode and it will open every single new link, even ones from a third-party app, in a private mode tab until i tell it that i don't want to be in private mode anymore

private mode on safari in ios used to keep the cached image of the screen after exiting private browsing mdoe, so if you looked at porn and it failed to cash a new image since you were in private mode, switching apps would display your gay prolapse poo poo eating porn for a brief second before displaying the real actual website or series of tabs

poty
Jun 21, 2008

虹はどこで終わるのですか? あなたの魂の中で、または地平線で?

LP0 ON FIRE posted:

private mode on safari in ios used to keep the cached image of the screen after exiting private browsing mdoe, so if you looked at porn and it failed to cash a new image since you were in private mode, switching apps would display your gay prolapse poo poo eating porn for a brief second before displaying the real actual website or series of tabs

i a friend of mine noticed this as well

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
why cant windwos see my macos partition what the gently caress

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

bump_fn posted:

why cant windwos see my macos partition what the gently caress

no apfs driver in the bootcamp software yet

Fiedler
Jun 29, 2002

I, for one, welcome our new mouse overlords.

LP0 ON FIRE posted:

i just discovered Safari isn’t shielded by other active windows to trigger rollover states, meaning i can have a finder window on top of safari and hovering the cursor over finder still activates the rollover states on the webpage under it

by design. working well with more than one window on screen at a time is a non-goal of macos.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

bump_fn posted:

why cant windwos see my macos partition what the gently caress

the osx partition is incorrectly formatted. reformat it as ntfs

pram
Jun 10, 2001
why would you use such outdated, 20th century trash lol. apfs is the worlds most advanced desktop filesystem

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

desktop and mobile filesystem

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

LP0 ON FIRE posted:

i just discovered Safari isn’t shielded by other active windows to trigger rollover states, meaning i can have a finder window on top of safari and hovering the cursor over finder still activates the rollover states on the webpage under it

macos windows management is poo poo

love 2 send keyboard commands to hidden applications instead of the window on top :jerkbag:

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

pram posted:

why would you use such outdated, 20th century trash lol. apfs is the worlds most advanced desktop filesystem

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

macos windows management is poo poo

love 2 send keyboard commands to hidden applications instead of the window on top :jerkbag:

when does this happen

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

for me, some dumb situation like “close Firefox to safari underneath” and go to open a new tab in safari, but focus is still on Firefox, so it reopens the just closed browser. solved if I just click to regain focus beforehand so it’s not a real problem

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

carry on then posted:

when does this happen
:confused: it does happen with play/pause but thats good

Doc Block
Apr 15, 2003
Fun Shoe

OldAlias posted:

for me, some dumb situation like “close Firefox to safari underneath” and go to open a new tab in safari, but focus is still on Firefox, so it reopens the just closed browser. solved if I just click to regain focus beforehand so it’s not a real problem

so you didn't actually close firefox, but just the window. the application itself is still open and running, and yet you think it shouldn't get focus?

GenJoe
Sep 15, 2010


Rehabilitated?


That's just a bullshit word.

Doc Block posted:

so you didn't actually close firefox, but just the window. the application itself is still open and running, and yet you think it shouldn't get focus?

the application is still running because there's a hidden gently caress you window somewhere on your desktop that u forgot about w/ no easy way of detecting unless you think bringing up the F3 view to try and find it out of the 30 active windows you have open is something that's acceptable

its bad op

Phoenixan
Jan 16, 2010

Just Keep Cool-idge
hit cmd+q next time

GenJoe
Sep 15, 2010


Rehabilitated?


That's just a bullshit word.

Phoenixan posted:

hit cmd+q next time

yes i understand the distinction here but do you think like 98% of users are going to know to do this

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

GenJoe posted:

yes i understand the distinction here but do you think like 98% of users are going to know to do this
98% of apple users don't know how finder works?

GenJoe
Sep 15, 2010


Rehabilitated?


That's just a bullshit word.

anthonypants posted:

98% of apple users don't know how finder works?

that's not what I'm saying. the distinction between which application is active and which window is active is confusing at best and you constantly have to fight the windows management system because of it. and having to invoke cmd shortcuts to make this more tolerable isn't a good solution at all and it's certainly not something that the average user makes use of

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

the paradigm of having a program running and having focus with a menu bar and everything but no open windows is one of the dumbest ongoing ux decisions in the mac os

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

Doc Block posted:

so you didn't actually close firefox, but just the window. the application itself is still open and running, and yet you think it shouldn't get focus?

in other oses, closing the window ‘closes’ the application (while some processes may still run, focus changes). remaining in focus when closed is not intuitive behaviour

e.

Sagebrush posted:

the paradigm of having a program running and having focus with a menu bar and everything but no open windows is one of the dumbest ongoing ux decisions in the mac os

ya

OldAlias fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Jun 8, 2018

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

“x” means “shittier minimize”, think different

go play outside Skyler
Nov 7, 2005


Sagebrush posted:

the paradigm of having a program running and having focus with a menu bar and everything but no open windows is one of the dumbest ongoing ux decisions in the mac os

nah, that's just kind of normal, and everybody knows about cmd+q anyways

now, about cmd+tab behavior when there's more than one window per application

Wild EEPROM
Jul 29, 2011


oh, my, god. Becky, look at her bitrate.

go play outside Skyler posted:

nah, that's just kind of normal, and everybody knows about cmd+q anyways

now, about cmd+tab behavior when there's more than one window per application

press cmd ` then

DELETE CASCADE
Oct 25, 2017

i haven't washed my penis since i jerked it to a phtotograph of george w. bush in 2003

Sagebrush posted:

the paradigm of having a program running and having focus with a menu bar and everything but no open windows is one of the dumbest ongoing ux decisions in the mac os


go play outside Skyler posted:

nah, that's just kind of normal, and everybody knows about cmd+q anyways

now, about cmd+tab behavior when there's more than one window per application

nnnnnnnope sagebrush is 100000% correct here, macos is clearly wrong about this decision and if you defend it you are completely hosed out

posted from my mac

go play outside Skyler
Nov 7, 2005


Wild EEPROM posted:

press cmd ` then

yeah that doesn't work out too well with non English keyboards :/

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe

Sagebrush posted:

the paradigm of having a program running and having focus with a menu bar and everything but no open windows is one of the dumbest ongoing ux decisions in the mac os

nope

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
osx is a Linux so it makes sense that it has a terrible Linux window manager

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

leaving the app open with no windows is fine, but it sucks when apple disregards that paradigm randomly.

open Photos.app and then close the main window or do CMD + W and it quits the whole app lol

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Sagebrush posted:

the paradigm of having a program running and having focus with a menu bar and everything but no open windows is one of the dumbest ongoing ux decisions in the mac os

yes. it has always worked like that and i've seen people who have used macs for 25 years who still don't understand how to close a program

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
i probably haven't touched a mac in half that time but i know it's a thing

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Last Chance posted:

leaving the app open with no windows is fine,

no

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infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
why does my computer get slow after it's been running for a few days?

~*looks over, sees a task bar the width of the entire screen with 30 applications running with no open windows*~

no idea, weird, huh?

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