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We don't know if there is a cult yet. I don't want to read too much into kill flavor or any flavor.
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I feel like this is 3x in a row for me that I've been in am ecco game with a red herring cult cop. I'm not saying this IS a red herring But I wouldn't be surprised if it was. If it isn't, see aforementioned thoughts
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Jun 6, 2018 23:13
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:If the cult recruiter isn't dead by day 4, this game is effectively over Good thing it's not D4 yet (or even close to D4). But agreed if there is a cult it would be good to get it rooted out now.
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Jun 6, 2018 23:16
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:I feel like this is 3x in a row for me that I've been in am ecco game with a red herring cult cop. Ya I know. I have this same feeling where I'm like "Wow a red herring cult cop!" and there is no cult. Just because it's something thats happened in past Ecco games could mean that Ecco decided to do a curve ball here and actually add one.
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Jun 6, 2018 23:17
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:I feel like this is 3x in a row for me that I've been in am ecco game with a red herring cult cop. maybe it's just me, but if there actually is a cult, who cares? I'm always going to play to my wincon regardless of alignment. Right now I want to lynch all threats to town: scum, cult, 3p, whatever. If there actually is a cult and I get recruited, then I'll just try to win with cult. and if the cult cop is just a red herring, then we are essentially down 3 vanilla roles. It could be worse imo
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Jun 6, 2018 23:26
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I lost my point on a salty speculative tangent. Flavor cases are bad and suspicious.
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Jun 6, 2018 23:31
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Wow. Less than an hour in real-time to go fromAnomalous Amalgam posted:If there's a cult, legitimately. We've probably already lost. to Anomalous Amalgam posted:If the cult recruiter isn't dead by day 4, this game is effectively over and then straight to Anomalous Amalgam posted:We don't know if there is a cult yet. I don't want to read too much into kill flavor or any flavor. Anomalous Amalgam posted:I feel like this is 3x in a row for me that I've been in am ecco game with a red herring cult cop. That's a whole lot of swing.
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Jun 6, 2018 23:44
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Like I said... salty tangent
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Jun 6, 2018 23:51
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I am uninterested in cult chat until I see a flip. Two night kills in a small game, I'm inclined against it.
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Jun 7, 2018 00:22
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Slow game today. Keane, you have any reads other than Pod?
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Jun 7, 2018 02:07
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AA, atone for making six posts about cults by making a case on someone you think is scum.
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Jun 7, 2018 02:12
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^^very quiet. Too quiet. CCKeane posted:I am uninterested in cult chat until I see a flip. I don’t see how the night kills are relevant to the cult. Anyway, enough cult chat. I suppose there are better options than lynching soda. Still suspicious of AA. Meinberg is MIA after some very sus posts yesterday. Can’t shake the feeling that sal is scum but don’t have anything to support it, just a feel.
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Jun 7, 2018 02:15
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Went back and reread Hal and IS based on possible connections to the kills. Hal: Hal Incandenza posted:Do you have a better option? (besides me) Hal Incandenza posted:I mean maybe if AS was in here dazzling us with reads it might be different but we have heard nothing but the claim and "I'm not good enough to play this role" Pushed the ASoda execution along with others, but the way that he frames it as an absolute in these posts doesn't sit well with me. Hal Incandenza posted:I tend to believe it but it doesn’t change my attitude about what to do. Also something about this strikes me as just a bit too offended at being prodded. Summary: Eye on Hal - I wouldn't vote him right now but I'm getting gutfeels. IllegallySober: I already talked about some of their stuff before (link) but on a reread: IllegallySober posted:I'm having a real hard time parsing this, so to clarify; you're saying that your role PM contains reference to AS as a player specifically with a Death Miller claim, or that there is a player in the game who may be a Death Miller? And your role is similar in some way to AS's claimed role? - The unvote without dropping another vote feels a bit self-conscious, it was an obvious jokevote on DB and vote totals were nowhere near high enough to care about. IllegallySober posted:I'm surprised that on D1 we have three players claiming they will flip falsely (AS, Mona, Moat). I can't envision all three of those claims being true. IllegallySober, do you still believe this to be true? You were against an AS vote at EOD, so what do you think of Moat and (by transitive property because he claimed too) AA? I assume from your posting re: AA that you've shifted that suspicion to him, but am curious about where you stand atm. Also all that being said, his point about AA swinging around opinions pretty fast today is valid. Summary: I I wouldn't vote IS today, it's just minor stuff.
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Jun 7, 2018 02:42
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Meinberg posted:Looking back, I think my brain was more in a setup speculation mindset, that Council folks are scum. But I guess that doesn’t make much sense if one of them is a cop? Except Ecco game so who knows. Meinberg posted:I think this might be at the crux of what’s throwing me, the shift in Keanu’s perspective about Mona, especially in the light of Mona’s flip. The first part seems like it’s going fairly hard at Mona, and the second, or so it seems to me, has him adjusting his stance significantly. Maybe I missed something in between the two, but it feels fishy to me. Hm I don't like these at all. Your first post is hedgy as heeeeeeck and gives no actual opinions, and your second post ties two Keane posts together that are over an irl day apart where plenty happened in between. Feels like you're grasping for something. ##vote meinberg
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Jun 7, 2018 02:46
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b-minus1 posted:maybe it's just me, but if there actually is a cult, who cares? I'm always going to play to my wincon regardless of alignment. Right now I want to lynch all threats to town: scum, cult, 3p, whatever. If there actually is a cult and I get recruited, then I'll just try to win with cult. Also this is a correct post re: people being histrionic about cults. CCKeane posted:I am uninterested in cult chat until I see a flip. And this is a fair point from a setup spec perspective.
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Jun 7, 2018 02:53
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SalTheBard posted:##Unvote I'm getting rid of my jokephase vote here. Who do you think is scum, Sal? I see a "this is a thing scum Slamburger does" and then nothing other than +1s to people's posts and a drive on ASoda yesterday. You also said you'd vote me for "flip flopping," is that still the case today?
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Jun 7, 2018 02:56
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Hey pod how do you feel about BK?
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Jun 7, 2018 03:14
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Podima posted:Who do you think is scum, Sal? I see a "this is a thing scum Slamburger does" and then nothing other than +1s to people's posts and a drive on ASoda yesterday. You also said you'd vote me for "flip flopping," is that still the case today? I was playing in 2 games at the same time which was a little much for me  But I'm only in one game now so basically I thought all your reads (especially the one on Meinberg) were good. I feel like once you got your feet underneath you, you were back to being good ole' Pod that I expect. I just got home from a late night at work and would like to re-read some of the thread before I'm able to more succinctly answer your question.
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Jun 7, 2018 03:15
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Does no one else think Pmoms case on me is dumb?
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Jun 7, 2018 03:16
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Nvm I'm an idiot bk replaced out
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Jun 7, 2018 03:19
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Podima posted:
I'm out for a while this evening but quoting this so I remember to come back to it when I have more time to devote to it. Short version- AA is on my radar today for the wild shift in opinions but so are a couple of others. Longer version to come later.
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Jun 7, 2018 03:19
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Moatillata posted:Hey pod how do you feel about BK?  Also PMom's case on you is eh. I'm not sure whether their quoting you out of order is accidental or not, but the interaction he calls out doesn't seem objectionable to me - I see it as you upgrading your opinion on me between D1 and start of D2 when read in the proper order. I'd categorize it as "maybe" but I want to see if he picks up over time, he usually does given time and he did replace in too. How do you feel about Meinberg and Sal?
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good morning hi pod i have some followup questions for you re: this Podima posted:I already addressed this as part of my first post today but let me know if it's unclear. Having given it some thought, I'm still fine with Keane for right now. about this quote:i'm really interested in hearing from pod re: his read late yesterday re: keane, and that post he really liked that i didn't. i liked keanes posting by end of day much better but he's still on the scum list, and it weirded me out that pod said this: you say you've addressed my questions in the below post Podima posted:Time for some kill choice analysis, because nobody ever does that and it's regretful. Neither was a lurker kill going by postcounts. i don't really think this is an answer to my question, except that it is true you just replaced in (noted  )i'd specifically like to know what thoughtful analysis you thought was contained in this: CCKeane posted:So here's why I'm suspicious, here. and then seperately in this quote:So I suspect there's some back end treachery going on here, and I don't know even to figure out the exact details, but something stinks a bit. i ask bc you indicated you liked this thoughtful analysis from keane, and i'd like to understand further and more specifically what it was you liked, sorry to keep banging on
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Pinterest Mom posted:Moat's giving me weird vibes, my choice rn. I really dislike the hedging they're doing on Pod, where they're almost calling Pod town, but seem like they're setting themselves up to change their mind in a weird way? And the push on Keane d1 seemed spurious. what is this. you voted moat with all the claiming that is going on for being unsure and suspicious about someone, that other people are also suss as? and for asking them to post? this is bad.
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Jun 7, 2018 03:46
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Moatillata posted:Like, when I saw Mona say organically he was council aligned that all but cleared him to me since it matched my own flavor. I immediately claimed because I felt we gave credence to each other. I actually felt kinda relieved. AA didn't react in this way. It feels off to me. yep i haven't seen aa answer my questions yet. quote:if you die what will you flip as aa? Atomic Soda posted:i'd love to hear more about your good feeling aa. Atomic Soda posted:
re: Anomalous Amalgam posted:Alignment talk may be moot. I have my alignment expressed as town in 3 separate ways in my PM i say this Anomalous Amalgam posted:I think that Moat thought Council-Aligned was a pseudo-miller, and myself thinking it synonymous with town is indicative that we are both likely town. I read Moat's posts several times last night after he called out my timing on claiming council, to see if I thought he was possibly fabricating a narrative or establishing an early safe claim, but that honestly does not appear to be the case. but i'm still trying to put it together, sorry for the repetition but. what is your alignment aa, and what will you flip as?
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Jun 7, 2018 03:53
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b-minus1 posted:cult = death by suicide. ok, i guess that makes sense... how lol no point worrying if there is or isn't a cult atm tbh
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Jun 7, 2018 03:55
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IllegallySober posted:I'm out for a while this evening but quoting this so I remember to come back to it when I have more time to devote to it. looking forward to your read on aa cause he sure is pinging me atm
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Jun 7, 2018 03:59
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Atomic Soda posted:good morning I'm not sure why you're breaking his post up into two pieces, but IIRC my thought process at the time was "he's taking the time to break down his issues with the claim rather than just going for the easy push" which is more than anyone had done at that point in time. Why ARE you breaking up his post into two pieces? The last line on its own is a whatever throwaway, but the first line is the meat of what I was commenting on.
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Jun 7, 2018 03:59
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Podima posted:I'm not sure why you're breaking his post up into two pieces, but IIRC my thought process at the time was "he's taking the time to break down his issues with the claim rather than just going for the easy push" which is more than anyone had done at that point in time. because you said that you missed the bk and mona comment he made, but you liked the rest of his argument. i want to know what you like about these bits of his post , without bk/mona bits. i mean the original post looks like this CCKeane posted:So here's why I'm suspicious, here. and your post i'm referring to is this (my bolding) Podima posted:Hm I did skip this though, thank you. I glazed over it a bit because the rest of your post is thoughtfully analyzing the claim (and again it jibes with what you just said, though I missed it), whereas DickB's post only focuses on that. In that context though it's certainly not as significant as I thought it was. so i want to know, what thoughtful analysis are you getting from the rest of this post. i hear what you say re: him not just accepting the claim, but we are talking in context of you calling out db, and then being asked why it is any different what keane did. you were apparently distracted by keanes great posting, so i want to hear more about what struck you.
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Jun 7, 2018 04:11
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This is Keane's post:CCKeane posted:So here's why I'm suspicious, here. Like I just said, it talks about your claim in a thoughtful way. I missed the part about PRs, as labeled for emphasis. This is DB's post (and the next one after it), further down that same page: Dick Bastardly posted:Why would Ecco straight up just tell a scum AS that BK and Mona are PRs? Dick Bastardly posted:On that same line of thinking, AS probably lied about knowing BK and Mona are PRs.....? To my read, DB just jumped right to the PR thing out of the entire claim without any preamble as his first non-jokephase posts as if that's all he was thinking about. That's the distinction I was trying to make at the time. Does that clear things up?
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hm, i'm going to drop it for now. i don't agree with you on this at all and find the "thoughtful" read w/o more details to be suspect, but there is also the option that we are reading those two posts in completely opposite ways what do you think of pmom and aa? Podima posted:Good observation re: AA's timing but note that he's specifically not claiming council mechanically - just in flavor. I was also just in a game where AA (as scum) grossly misread his PM and spent the rest of the time scrambling to cover his own gaps, so it's making me go hmm in general. i kind of agree with you on aa generally, and wish he'd specifically confirm the first bit
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Jun 7, 2018 04:47
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Atomic Soda posted:yep I've already answered this though. Council-Aligned. Town-Aligned. It's expressed as both in my PM, however as far as what I would flip as, that's up to Ecco. Lunch me, find out? I'm town this go around. Wild shifting is nothing new to me, regardless of alignment. Read any game I'm in, reflect in how I've been with you in games I'm in. My opinion shifts like a flame in the wind. I'm not looking for what sticks, I just flow of consciousness at all times, there's no off switch. Anyhow, I'm feeling just eh about things so it's whatever to me. Council-Aligned. Town-Aligned. As far as my PM is concerned, they are synonymous.
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Jun 7, 2018 05:19
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:I've already answered this though. so there is nothing saying which way you would flip/its a coin toss? interesting, this does not line up with what i have. moat?
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Jun 7, 2018 05:22
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Atomic Soda posted:so there is nothing saying which way you would flip/its a coin toss? interesting, this does not line up with what i have. moat? ^^ yeah if moat confirms this is not how his PM states his council alignment I think its pretty clear AA is lying. If Ecco screwed up AA's PM, he can file a complaint with customer service after he's dead.
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Jun 7, 2018 07:40
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Slamburger posted:^^ yeah if moat confirms this is not how his PM states his council alignment I think its pretty clear AA is lying. If Ecco screwed up AA's PM, he can file a complaint with customer service after he's dead. Yowza this reads like readying an excuse when a player flips town.
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Jun 7, 2018 09:12
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Atomic Soda posted:so there is nothing saying which way you would flip/its a coin toss? interesting, this does not line up with what i have. moat? Because what you have is a hot garbage claim and we should have dunked you.
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Jun 7, 2018 10:18
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Because what you have is a hot garbage claim and we should have dunked you. This is the kind of post someone makes when they got caught lying. CCKeane posted:Yowza this reads like readying an excuse when a player flips town. And this is what their scumbuddy posts. Are you more interested in my dumb joke than the fact that AA is obviously lying? Ecco didnt screw up. AA is probably scum+council and thinks he is a godfather or something, and lied about what his "town" PM looks like and got caught.
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Jun 7, 2018 10:52
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Nah, I hosed up like that game. I'm not the brightest crayon, but I'm not actually brain dead. I'm exactly what I've said quit jumping to asinine conclusions with nothing to support it other than your suspicion. Prove anything I've said is actually wrong and we can talk baby.
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Jun 7, 2018 12:07
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Atomic Soda posted:so there is nothing saying which way you would flip/its a coin toss? interesting, this does not line up with what i have. moat? Mona also made it pretty clear they would flip "council" and not "maybe one or the other who knows"
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Nah, I hosed up like that game. I'm not the brightest crayon, but I'm not actually brain dead. Lol "prove it" yeah that's a solid mafia defense
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