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My current hot take is that Yami isn't scum because they did this song and dance about how they didn't want to kill a newbie on day one and while it was a bit dramatic it did seem sincere to me and to turn around from that to killing sniper would seem meanspirited. there is a level of WIFOM that could be gone into here, but I think taking things at face value more often returns valuable results
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 07:13 |
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I like Atomic Soda's style of posting, it's a sort of a steady burn The unvote close to the deadline is something to think about though. I don't think most people would have picked up on that as a soft claim, but perhaps it reads differently if you're scum? Something I'm mulling over right now.
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 07:17 |
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Lando's scant history leaves a few things that can be picked and prodded, but I ultimately think that hammering is a good and important thing to do in the d1, and if he was checking the thread at the right time that seems fine. IDK with him, because I can see the things that look sketchy (The minimal posting, weird justifications) but I'm not feeling it, the tone seems fine to me The one thing that jumps out at me that wasn't mentioned was him saying Soda looks good because she was the first to say he was scummy, why would that even be on your radar if you're town?
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 07:24 |
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No actually, I'm going to turn back on that one, that's actually such a weird thing to say that I'm having trouble getting over it.Lando131 posted:I feel good about Atomic Soda. She was the first to note me as suspicious and I just lurked day 1. I also was taking the game as seriously as I took Nat 20 is scum mafia when reading it. This is the post in question by the way. I guess just personally I get all worked up and upset if somebody has targetting me and they're wrong. Even if there's something I can understand somebody saying about me I've never been like "oh that person isn't scum specifically because they're targeting me" Especially in context, where being the first to identify a lurker is hardly a situation where you're presented a medal and a town mvp award for looking at the posts per user section, it's actually one of the easiest scum things to do because there's analysis or opinion making you have to do* *NOT A CONDEMNATION OF LURKER CALLOUTS IN GENERAL BEET, JUST SAYING THAT SPECIFICALLY THINKING OF SOMEBODY AS TOWN BECAUSE THEY WERE THE FIRST PERSON TO CALL SOMEBODY OUT AS A LURKER IS SILLY, GOOFY
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 07:30 |
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i hope you appreciate that last line because i had to use all the capital letters ive been saving from my other posts in this thread
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 07:31 |
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this is the absolutely ledge callout that lando is referring to btwAtomic Soda posted:like to throw lando on the pile but it may be too late i realise Atomic Soda posted:its mean to vote the newbie day 1
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 07:33 |
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boy look how many posts i got one page I actually feel decent about this one ##vote Lando I don't really want to vote for Yami, Beet or Anidav. I would vote for bif. All the others I don't really have strong opinions about. That's it fellas I'm off to pre-preemptively lurk (lol beet is a stupid person who uses the same prefix twice for no reasons go back and check his original post and laugh at it) I'll try to check back before deadline but might not be able to, tomorrow is election day and i will be volunteering all day and then going to a "victory party" which will probably be a bit sad because I don't think we're going to win
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 07:36 |
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who has an election on a friday? sounds fake
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 07:54 |
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Birdstrike posted:everyone is on my radar i feel betrayed dont make me serial kill u
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 08:48 |
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beet feels like scum to me but then theyre prob gonna mad or something and be like "rahhh youre just voting for the person with the most posts this is why mafia is dead" which is wrong because i would be voting for the person with the most bad posts and mafia has always been dead
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 08:49 |
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Mafia isn't dead it's just sleeping
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 08:51 |
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nah vote for me if you want. I'll only worry when people who matter vote for me.
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 08:51 |
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And yeah, he preemptively preempted his lurking. It's not that hard.
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 08:52 |
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Birdstrike posted:who has an election on a friday? it's a vote for loser of the year 2017-18 he's a shoe in.
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 08:53 |
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:i hope you appreciate that last line because i had to use all the capital letters ive been saving from my other posts in this thread I was actually pretty impressed.
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 08:54 |
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:I don't think we're going to win unlike your scum team huh?
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 08:55 |
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I like what mmm had to say, had to say (that's deliberate) pretty much. good assumption.
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 08:56 |
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Atomic Soda posted:what was that game lando? i don't not believe you but i dont remember atm. It was Myst Mafia. It was probably Nep-Nep's one big mistake and I missed it but he ended up winning that one for scum. I don't disagree with you that it's suspect but I'm taking a very different approach this game, namely to have more fun and try not to stress about the game. Also there was 10 minutes left and I'm always of the opinion that any hammer is better than none.
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 10:36 |
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Lando's scant history leaves a few things that can be picked and prodded, but I ultimately think that hammering is a good and important thing to do in the d1, and if he was checking the thread at the right time that seems fine. Because there was a lot of talk about lurkers and I had only posted to make a joke about a fake masonry and then to further explain said joke. If that's not content lurking nothing is and I was aware of it, and I was actively looking for people who would take notice of that fact. It was certainly very interesting how some people get called out for lurking when others don't. I've been burned in almost every game I've been in for wanting to vote out lurkers too. I'm starting to see why KB wanted to change his meta, but from the other side of it.
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 10:42 |
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:this is the absolutely ledge callout that lando is referring to btw Allow me to explain: Atomic Soda is looking at all options and not tunneling and presenting a fair and accurate representation of the facts. This is town behavior, therefore it makes me feel better about her. She's also playing very similar to other games I've played with her where she is town. If you feel this is poor justification for getting a town read on someone you are welcome to your opinion.
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 10:44 |
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flerp I trusted you in Myst you're not scum that is going to give great advice that wins you the game again are you?
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 10:46 |
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I don't get a scum read on Lando or Soda. I think Bifauxnen is third party basically and I'm practically neutral on everyone else.
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 10:52 |
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I just did a thread reread. Upon rereading I realized I'd completely forgotten Monathin was in this game. He put down a jokevote and commented on the crappy setup spec reasoning for voting Bif and literally nothing else. He also said he would be around to deadline and did nothing as the vote split and then coalesced on Sal. I do not like this at all. The fact he hasn't said anything at all day 2 doesn't help. In hindsight Sniper was clearly out to keep himself safe as the town cop, and maybe scum picked up on that and killed him for it. Sal mostly seemed to be a 'have to pick someone to avoid a nolynch' pick. However MMM and flerp were the two who started it off. #3 was Sniper, who as mentioned was in an 'anyone but me, I'm the cop' mentality. Of those two I'm the most suspect of flerp who literally jumped in as #2 and helped start a bandwagon with zero reasoning. This could possibly be coordination between MMM and flerp, but I never saw that kind of thing when I was scum myself so I don't know if that's a thing that actually happens. Either way I think there's a good chance one or both of them are scum and they're my top two scumpicks right now. MMM has also been super heavy on wanting to kill Bif for no reason, which is lazy and lets them talk a lot without saying anything of value. flerp i thought you were a town superstar from reading your lategame play. But my 2 previous games with you were Westworld where you were third party and Myst where you won as scum. You feel the same to me now as you did in those games. ##vote flerp
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 11:33 |
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I would vote Mona over flerp
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 11:40 |
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you've got a bit of a hardon for flerp, what gives
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 11:42 |
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My first game back playing in several years I was scum and I was secretly terrified town flerp would destroy us because I'd read a game where he won as town. But he ended up being 3p. Then I was town in my next game and flerp was there and I eventually trusted him but no he had to be horrible scum that led someone I trusted even more to victory to my complete bamboozlement. Call it a meta read. Those two losses made me realize just how awful at finding scum I actually am so now I'm somewhat paranoid about my own blind spots.
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 11:48 |
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oh not you, but it's good to self disclose that i guess. i meant birdstrike he's all over flerp like it's gaspy in disguise.
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 11:54 |
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Beetphyxious posted:oh not you, but it's good to self disclose that i guess. it’s my new meta
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 12:00 |
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I read lando ( the real fake gaspy here) and i thought yeah Mona seems more scummy wait what okay voting flerp because I sucked in the past
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 12:02 |
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Beetphyxious posted:gaspy in disguise.
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 12:04 |
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Birdstrike posted:I read lando ( the real fake gaspy here) and i thought yeah Mona seems more scummy wait what okay voting flerp because I sucked in the past yeah i feels ya bud
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 12:06 |
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I swear if any of you are that faux italian eyepatched robot fucker in disguise.
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 12:07 |
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Mona has done nothing whereas flerp has actively contributed to the death of Sal with an equal amount of actual content (none). It isn't that I wouldn't vote Mona it's that I feel flerp is worse as of right now.
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 12:09 |
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Anidav posted:I swear if any of you are that faux italian eyepatched robot fucker in disguise. lol
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 12:35 |
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Lando don’t say I want to kill bif for no reason when I’m pretty sure I have more posts discussing bif than you have posts in the thread
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 12:56 |
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His reasoning for voting flerp over monathin is also flawed, Monathin is a better vote imo
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 12:59 |
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Lando131 posted:Because there was a lot of talk about lurkers and I had only posted to make a joke about a fake masonry and then to further explain said joke. If that's not content lurking nothing is and I was aware of it, and I was actively looking for people who would take notice of that fact. It was certainly very interesting how some people get called out for lurking when others don't. I've been burned in almost every game I've been in for wanting to vote out lurkers too. I'm starting to see why KB wanted to change his meta, but from the other side of it. Why would you be worried about content lurking if you’re not scum. Content lurking is when you avoid posting content as scum. I also don’t see why some people getting called out and others not matters if you’re town. Is the idea that scum, the only people in the thread who can change their actions based on alignment, are not targeting you as a lurker because they’d rather bus?
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 13:06 |
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Having reread the thread in the context of the flip, I really, really do not like MMM's posting. MMM spent most of the day trying to get bif lunched, essentially "for the lulz". Easy enough to explain away as a joke, I suppose, but... It really doesn't get all that much better, in my opinion. MMM Whatchya Say posted:##vote anidav MMM Whatchya Say posted:##unvote I actually don’t like that vote MMM Whatchya Say posted:Is there anybody else we can vote? Do we have enough people to vote sal? The guy who sucks MMM Whatchya Say posted:##vote sal This just feels off to me, especially given how insanely focused MMM was on lynching bif (as a joke or not is kind of irrelevant), even past the point where actual content was trickling in. To me, it felt dragged on too long to be a joke push. But all of a sudden, he drops trying to lynch bif entirely, even barely (if at all) mentioning her after the above posts. (Like, seriously, Ctrl + F bif in his posts.) I don't really know most people's meta here, so I don't know if this is just how MMM normally plays, but to me as an unbiased person this reads like someone who wanted to push a certain lynch, and then swapped entirely to an easier target when they realized people weren't biting. What really makes me suspicious of them was the timing on the Anidav vote. Anidav was the vote leader (with 4 votes, 5 if GeneX vote actually took?) when MMM voted for anidav as well, before unvoting them a mere five minutes later, and swapping to Sal. Swapping to Sal, with THIS … THING of a post, no less??? MMM Whatchya Say posted:Is there anybody else we can vote? Do we have enough people to vote sal? The guy who sucks Like, where did this come from? At all? I think this is extremely flimsy reasoning to push away from Anidav, who was in a very real danger of being lynched. I’ve reread the pages around where the vote switched to Sal and I still do not understand the reason, other than wanting to push away from Anidav. Speaking of Anidav, I also re-read their posting history and… Where’s the content?!? He has 57 posts and I only found like, FIVE posts that actually felt like content to me (and I was being generous), the rest was setup speculation upon setup speculation, with some off topic thrown in there. Now Anidav is a player in my game, so I know he tends to dive deep into setup speculation, but usually he has SOMETHING useful to add. The amount of setup speculation that seems to have completely bloated out actual content in his post history is insane. My hunch is that MMM may have been trying to steer the lynch away from Anidav by jumping onto Sal. I still need to reread a bunch of post histories in a surprisingly small amount of time (why are evenings so short T.T) but I read the thread as a whole ago, and delved into the post history of those two, who pinged me pretty hard. Either way, these two are my strongest scumreads right now. ##vote MMM Whatchya Say
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 18:09 |
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More reads to come, but I'm not sure how many I will be able to finish tonight. I'm still a bit suspicious of Beet and their insanely padded post count, roughly half of which appears to be off topic. But not as much as the two I mentioned just now.
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# ? Jun 7, 2018 18:11 |
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To be clear I still want to vote bif, for the same reasons outlined at the beginning which weren’t a joke, but people were already annoyed at me mentioning her in every post. I have nothing new to say about bif and switched to talking about other people.
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