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Even more depressing is that I foresaw political correctness 43 years ago.

P: In Fahrenheit 451, too?

B: Yes. [At one point, another character,] the fire chief, describes how the minorities, one by one, shut the mouths and minds of the public, suggesting a precedent: The Jews hated Fagin and Shylock - burn them both, or at least never mention them. The blacks didn't like friend of the family Jim floating on Huck's raft with him - burn, or at least hide, him. Women's libbers hated Jane Austen as an awfully inconvenient woman in a dreadfully old-fashioned time - off with her head! Family-values groups detested Oscar Wilde - back in the closet, Oscar! Communists hated the bourgeoisie - shoot them! An on and on it goes. So whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.

P: Do you respond to them?

B: I say to both bunches, Whether you're a majority or minority, bug off! To hell with anybody who wants to tell me what to write. Their society breaks down into subsections of minorities who then, in effect, burn books by banning them. All this political correctness that's rampant on campuses is b.s. You can't fool around with the dangerous notion of telling a university what to teach and what not to. If you don't like the curriculum, go to another school. Faculty members who toe the same line are sanctimonious nincompoops!

Toshimo posted:

I like science fiction and loving.

I read Heinlein.

Absurd Alhazred posted:

I gently caress science fiction fans.

Toshimo posted:

I like science fiction and loving.

I read Heinlein.

Toshimo posted:

Gross and wrong.

Absurd Alhazred posted:

I like science fiction and loving.

I gently caress science fiction fans.

Solice Kirsk posted:

Get your science friction on!

Solice Kirsk posted:

Why not just get The Laid of Heaven.

ToxicSlurpee posted:

Stranger in a Strange Hand

giggidy

Toshimo posted:

I like science fiction and loving.

I read Heinlein.

Mondian posted:

Stranger was my favorite book for a huge portion of my life, but uh.... man, if you've actually ready a bunch of Heinlein and still post that, I think I know exactly what kind of loving you're into

maltesh posted:

I admit, I disliked Starship Troopers until a few years ago, when someone told me to view it as an in-universe propaganda piece . A government-ordered made-for-consumption piece to sell a war that is going a lot worse than the movie claims, and has to reconcile and retroactively justify events that can't be covered up, instead of an accurate depiction of how things went.

There are even commercial interruptions during the movie, dammit.

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Yeah, was this the thread where we talked about his time traveling pedophilia/incest fetish, or was that somewhere else?

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Yeah, was this the thread where we talked about his time traveling pedophilia/incest fetish, or was that somewhere else?

LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:

I prefer collections of scifi short stories rather than full length books.

Samuringa posted:

Probably at the PYF Terrible Book which dumped on classic creepy sci-fi and fantasy a lot.

LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:

I prefer collections of scifi short stories rather than full length books.

FactsAreUseless posted:

Bradbury's works transcend the author, who was a pretty poo poo dude. Martian Chronicles, Illustrated Man, F451 all hold up.

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Na, I don't follow that thread. Maybe I should!


I get Analog for that purpose, and it's pretty good. There's awesome authors working today, and if they're as hosed up as the "Golden Age" folk, at least they're getting better at keeping it to themselves.

Unkempt posted:

Analog is (used to be?) full of right-wing idiocy. I stopped buying it after an issue with not one but two stories making GBS threads on 'socialized medicine' in bizarre ways.

Inspector Gesicht posted:

And for something that's held up well: Fred Rogers.

Unkempt posted:

Analog is (used to be?) full of right-wing idiocy. I stopped buying it after an issue with not one but two stories making GBS threads on 'socialized medicine' in bizarre ways.

Inspector Gesicht posted:

I never watched Extra Credits because it's always struck me as a "Preaching from Pulpit"" thing, and now it turns out a lot of departures from the show were because the co-founder, Jame Portnow, is a harasser and Internet Nice Guy.

The Bloop posted:

Aesop Poprock posted:

Dude literally straight up kills billions of people and is like “whoops sith stuff my bad” And is just totally forgiven and becomes a Jedi. It happens within like a day or two

BrigadierSensible posted:

This is going back a while, and I'm sure it wasn't stolen from ONLY the 60s batman, but seeing this clip just reminded me of the similar bit in the Wallace and Gromit: A Matter of Loaf and Death where Gromit tries to throw the bomb out of the bakery window.

Now Wallace and Gromit has aged magnificently. A Grand Day Out is the worst by far in terms of animation quality, but only because they got better and better at the models as they went on. But as regard to story, the twee whimsy and silliness has stood up remarkably well.

I actually show them to my students, (middle school students), and they love it.

BrigadierSensible posted:

Now Wallace and Gromit has aged magnificently. A Grand Day Out is the worst by far in terms of animation quality, but only because they got better and better at the models as they went on. But as regard to story, the twee whimsy and silliness has stood up remarkably well.