Basscop posted:Ask Lefkandi, Gareb, Uriah and Jobe. Crazycryodude posted:Officially voting to wonder just why the gently caress do things fall down? Magnusth posted:Ishamal, whenever i do things, weather with the water of my well or with my body, the more i do - the more i move or throw, the more fire i create, the higher i lift a thing - the more effort or water it takes. Why is it that hardening, then, always takes the same amount of water, no matter what i harden against?
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Magnusth posted:Ishamal, whenever i do things, weather with the water of my well or with my body, the more i do - the more i move or throw, the more fire i create, the higher i lift a thing - the more effort or water it takes. Why is it that hardening, then, always takes the same amount of water, no matter what i harden against? why is it not affected by how much damage i protect myself form, the same way the cost of creating fire is affected by the amount of fire i create? My guess would be that we are rendering our body impervious. Our body is a fixed volume of matter so it’s like on/off rather than a proportional response to outside stimulus. We’re not mitigating a variable force against us. We’re mitigating ALL force against us and therefore it’s the same every time. Making things happen to matter outside our body is proportional to what we’re doing.
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Jun 9, 2018 17:54
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Officially voting to wonder just why the hell we saw that hypersonic rock hit Gebek before we heard it hit Gebek. That was really weird, and a thing we noticed, I wonder why that happened?
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Jun 9, 2018 17:54
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Basscop got me curious about this arrow idea. Diog: As a minor action, can we try painting one of our Bronze Arrows so that it looks even more like a normal arrow?
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Jun 9, 2018 18:53
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the_steve posted:Basscop got me curious about this arrow idea. Unless Gareb developed Blooded Paint, I doubt it would work.
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Jun 9, 2018 19:24
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Blasphemaster posted:Unless Gareb developed Blooded Paint, I doubt it would work. I would not at all be surprised if Gareb had done that. And now that you mention it I am really curious how he does it, if he has.
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Jun 9, 2018 19:29
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My personal pet theory on why blooded bronze arrows outperform wooden arrows has to do with the Holy Metal idea, kind of like what Exalted does. In Exalted (for those of you unfamiliar with the Whitewolf RPG), different factions align with different magical metals. Solars use Orichalcum, Lunars Quicksilver, etc. To that end, Blooded Bronze is El's metal of choice. Fare might have drawn the Iron choice, Asherah I guess gets shells and sharkteeth. So because BB is the holy metal, it gets imparted bonus properties intrinsically, along with the form/function properties that have been previously observed (woodgrain on arrows, etc)
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Jun 9, 2018 19:30
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mercenarynuker posted:My personal pet theory on why blooded bronze arrows outperform wooden arrows has to do with the Holy Metal idea, kind of like what Exalted does. In Exalted (for those of you unfamiliar with the Whitewolf RPG), different factions align with different magical metals. Solars use Orichalcum, Lunars Quicksilver, etc. To that end, Blooded Bronze is El's metal of choice. Fare might have drawn the Iron choice, Asherah I guess gets shells and sharkteeth. Then how do you explain our useless bow?
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Jun 9, 2018 19:32
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Diogines posted:This falls under the "no bronze age steam engines" things. You can't just decide to suddenly have profound questions about the nature of reality. My next vote will be to get high and ask all these questions. You can't tell me that these questions would not be asked when we're stoned as gently caress.
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Jun 9, 2018 19:44
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If only we'd had, like... a guidebook in how to ask interesting and profound questions. Like a scroll perhaps, that could guide our, well, our inquiry. Sigh. That will never happen.
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Jun 9, 2018 20:03
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Blasphemaster posted:Unless Gareb developed Blooded Paint, I doubt it would work. Blooded paint is the easiest thing to develop. If you like red.
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Jun 9, 2018 20:29
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Crazycryodude posted:Officially voting to wonder just why the hell we saw that hypersonic rock hit Gebek before we heard it hit Gebek. That was really weird, and a thing we noticed, I wonder why that happened? Magnusth posted:If only we'd had, like... a guidebook in how to ask interesting and profound questions. Like a scroll perhaps, that could guide our, well, our inquiry.
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Jun 9, 2018 20:59
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I bet Diog is kind of excited to write a new setting for once. There'll be lots of interesting things to explore in the grasslands.
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Jun 9, 2018 21:00
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Magnusth posted:Ishamal, whenever i do things, weather with the water of my well or with my body, the more i do - the more i move or throw, the more fire i create, the higher i lift a thing - the more effort or water it takes. Why is it that hardening, then, always takes the same amount of water, no matter what i harden against? why is it not affected by how much damage i protect myself form, the same way the cost of creating fire is affected by the amount of fire i create? Maybe it costs the same because we're so inefficient that our well that the hardening control is a OFF-GODMODE switch rather than a dial.
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Jun 9, 2018 21:12
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There Bias Two posted:I bet Diog is kind of excited to write a new setting for once. There'll be lots of interesting things to explore in the grasslands. He’s dusting off the Kadmonim spiral notebook. Going through it and putting those little post it notes sticking out for quick reference. And in 3 weeks when we vote to go home because Snarls sneezed and we got worried, he’ll sigh and place it back on the shelf next to Athar, Marduk, Mushroom Cave, Monsters of the South....
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Jun 9, 2018 22:22
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Zodiac5000 posted:Oh God you were serious that the society ruled by complete religious fear and rigorous culling was a potential moral equal. Jesus. It was literally a prison camp, ruled by fear, and you're calling it ok because they had easy access to fish. Holy poo poo. Not exactly. I'm saying that from a fishman perspective, a giants perspective, or a After exterminating all the monsters within many miles of zepath we shouldn't be surprised when the monsters try to exterminate us. They are just defending themselves. Diogines posted:Do you happen to remember Gebeb? Yeah, Gebeb is crueler to the cattle than Athar. Though it would be perfectly legal for a donut douche-bag to lock a slave in a hanging cage to starve to death. He might get frowny faces for it, but it wouldn't be illegal. In this metaphor Giants would be equivalent to Blooded men, and gebian humans would be equivalent to donut slaves. Life sucks for humans in Gebeb. Life sucks for most humans in most of Ur too.
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Jun 9, 2018 22:33
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Diogines posted:This falls under the "no bronze age steam engines" things. You can't just decide to suddenly have profound questions about the nature of reality. We did not just decide to suddenly have profound questions about the nature of reality. While asking Ish a question we tried to make a metaphor regarding using our well to frame the question and used the simplest thing we could think of: Lifting up a rock. At this point we realised our metaphor didn't really work because it wasn't the same as our well because there wasn't anything pushing the rock down but when we use our we'll to move things we're... Wait... Hangon, why do rocks fall down anyway? We didn't suddenly decide to question reality. You made Enkidel organically have a profound question about the nature of reality while he was trying to do something totally unrelated. So: Ish, why the gently caress to things fall down?
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Jun 9, 2018 23:28
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Things fall down because El wills it so obviously. To make a flying machine, we just need to trick it, the sky, and El into believing it should be able to fly.
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Jun 9, 2018 23:35
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Magnusth posted:Ishamal, whenever i do things, weather with the water of my well or with my body, the more i do - the more i move or throw, the more fire i create, the higher i lift a thing - the more effort or water it takes. Why is it that hardening, then, always takes the same amount of water, no matter what i harden against? why is it not affected by how much damage i protect myself form, the same way the cost of creating fire is affected by the amount of fire i create? Z the IVth posted:Maybe it costs the same because we're so inefficient that our well that the hardening control is a OFF-GODMODE switch rather than a dial. When we were falling after the eagle arrow incident, we decided to harden as we landed, and it was described thusly: Diogines posted:At the last possible moment you summon as an act of will that this is your body and refuse to permit it to change. Falling from a great height, you make impact. It seems like we just refuse any changes at all to our physical from, and either there's a change to refuse or there isn't, thus it either costs or doesn't cost, but the magnitude of the change resisted isn't a factor.
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Jun 9, 2018 23:37
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Olothreutes posted:When we were falling after the eagle arrow incident, we decided to harden as we landed, and it was described thusly: We just want to turn off kinetic damage, but instead we just switch off physics entirely.
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Jun 9, 2018 23:40
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Basscop posted:Then how do you explain our useless bow? Easy, we can't make a magical regular bow, why would we expect to be able to make an artifact level one, especially without any orbs to huck into it
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Jun 9, 2018 23:45
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Outrail posted:We did not just decide to suddenly have profound questions about the nature of reality.
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Jun 9, 2018 23:50
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Diogines posted:It has to occur to Enkidel that there is a reason things fall. For most of human history this was not a question most considered. You can't decide when you have a profound realization of this sort any more than you can just start inventing things that you as a Goon know how to build. Sometimes Enkidel has had or may have a profound revelation, or people around him, but you can't just decide to have one by justifying the requisite circumstances leading up to it. Are there apple trees in the gardens?
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Jun 10, 2018 00:00
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Yes. Also, the update is pushed back to tomorrow in the earlier part of the day.
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Jun 10, 2018 00:09
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Clearly, the more Enkidel tries to fly, the more he will learn about gravity and physics. Or El. "When I send my wings into Immelmann rolls over the terrain of Zepath when I pull my artifact bow's string when my sight is made transcendent by the power of nepesh when I feel the throbbing beat of my wings ejaculate themselves into my spine and I engage in intimate congress 10,000 meters above the curve of the world: Yea, I shall say it! I am communing with El, and who are ye to gainsay it?"
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Jun 10, 2018 00:19
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Diogines posted:Yes. loving gravity man.
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Jun 10, 2018 00:25
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Crazycryodude posted:Officially voting to wonder just why the hell we saw that hypersonic rock hit Gebek before we heard it hit Gebek. That was really weird, and a thing we noticed, I wonder why that happened? If only there was a place that could teach us about things like this, if only there was some city that had an institution full of smart people we could learn from.
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Jun 10, 2018 00:38
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Diogines posted:It has to occur to Enkidel that there is a reason things fall. For most of human history this was not a question most considered. You can't decide when you have a profound realization of this sort any more than you can just start inventing things that you as a Goon know how to build. Sometimes Enkidel has had or may have a profound revelation, or people around him, but you can't just decide to have one by justifying the requisite circumstances leading up to it. I'm not justifying anything, I'm pointing out that you made Og have that realization. You made us repeatedly reframe a simple metaphor that Og was trying to make to ask a question about his well. We/Og realised it was somewhat impossible to frame that metaphor in a way Og could articulate, at which point it became apparent to Og that was a question he needed to ask. We weren't even trying to ask 'why do things fall down?', it happened organically the way profound realizations happen.
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Jun 10, 2018 00:58
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Outrail posted:I'm not justifying anything, I'm pointing out that you made Og have that realization. You made us repeatedly reframe a simple metaphor that Og was trying to make to ask a question about his well. We/Og realised it was somewhat impossible to frame that metaphor in a way Og could articulate, at which point it became apparent to Og that was a question he needed to ask. We weren't even trying to ask 'why do things fall down?', it happened organically the way profound realizations happen. Diogines fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Jun 10, 2018 |
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Jun 10, 2018 01:18
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super sweet best pal posted:If only there was a place that could teach us about things like this, if only there was some city that had an institution full of smart people we could learn from. Hahahahaha as loving if. You think even the academy at Baitel can figure out the speed of sound? This is still bronze age as gently caress dude, and even if we did go study there it'd take like 100 years before they started teaching us anything worth a drat, such as how to make weapons of war.
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Jun 10, 2018 01:30
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Infinity Gaia posted:Hahahahaha as loving if. You think even the academy at Baitel can figure out the speed of sound? This is still bronze age as gently caress dude, and even if we did go study there it'd take like 100 years before they started teaching us anything worth a drat, such as how to make weapons of war. "Much thought by many learned scholars has been put into the mystery of why things, when not suspended by some other force or mechanism, fall to the ground. The consensus is that El created all things from dust and clay, and all things ultimately return to the source of their creation. It is known."
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Jun 10, 2018 01:37
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Hexenritter posted:"Much thought by many learned scholars has been put into the mystery of why things, when not suspended by some other force or mechanism, fall to the ground. The consensus is that El created all things from dust and clay, and all things ultimately return to the source of their creation. It is known." "Then why can I eat this clay without pooping it out?"
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Jun 10, 2018 01:39
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There Bias Two posted:"Then why can I eat this clay without pooping it out?" "Please step this way into the room of answers, pay no attention to the Enochian on the walls it's not a binding circle"
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Jun 10, 2018 01:45
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Diogines posted:Can you link to where Enkidel had such a thought? However it was only a passing thought, not any grand revelation by Enkidel. Other posters were struggling to make Enkidel make a pretty simple analogy/metaphor to ask question. You kept telling us to ask it in such a way that a Og would be able to articulate, but it became apparent that Og couldn't articulate that simple thing because that knowledge does not exist in game. I mean it wasn't Og having that direct thought, but the thought process innocently formed without an attempt to force the issue. Throw us a loving bone here, some of us are doing everything we can to explore this world and we're trapped jacking off in Kavodel ignoring every open door like an agrophobic wizard.
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Jun 10, 2018 01:58
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Outrail posted:Throw us a loving bone here, some of us are doing everything we can to explore this world and we're trapped jacking off in Kavodel ignoring every open door like an agrophobic wizard. We are literally about to travel to the grasslands and see something new.
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Jun 10, 2018 02:04
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I wonder if the horsepeoples have ever wondered why things go down
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Jun 10, 2018 02:11
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Poor freckles, thought of gravity and died
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Jun 10, 2018 02:13
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SniperWoreConverse posted:Poor freckles, thought of gravity and died Maybe gravity only applies to horses in Ur. Hence the inexplicable deaths.
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There Bias Two posted:We are literally about to travel to the grasslands and see something new. Man I am so excited. I hope we manage to see some cool poo poo and then get involved in an interfactional incident when we try to steal the Kadmonim power source or whatever it is they have. It's gonna be great.
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Man it would be an awesome battle scene of the Hulk(s) vs. the Mongol Horde
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