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you'd think he would love the EA press conference given the amount of time they tend to focus on FIFA and Madden
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Parakeet vs. Phone posted:There's probably also something to be said about games and movies being limited by being a visual medium. There's a book I've been meaning to read where the central conflict is two cultures trying to understand one another, and apparently the climax is them finally having a conversation. Alaois posted:you'd think he would love the EA press conference given the amount of time they tend to focus on FIFA and Madden sports are bad too probably .https://twitter.com/radicalbytes/status/960330762561056768 https://twitter.com/PopDetective/status/828418603556941825 yep. i mean at least he has point but yep.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 01:09 |
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Parakeet vs. Phone posted:There's probably also something to be said about games and movies being limited by being a visual medium. There's a book I've been meaning to read where the central conflict is two cultures trying to understand one another, and apparently the climax is them finally having a conversation. Yea I agree that the interactivity of games makes the extremely glorified violence a bit more worth looking at critically than we would with movies. For movies I'd say it's mainly the politics of them that's the most toxic. It doesn't really matter how many heads John Bigdick Blastface explodes in Honor Of Freedom: The Snipening or whatever, it more matters that we present him as a heroic figure to emulate as he blasts his way through a country that he kinda shouldn't even be in for no real reason.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 01:09 |
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also 'Media criticism is my job' is maybe Jon most powerful accidental self-own.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 01:10 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:sports are bad too probably I don't believe him, mostly because I don't believe he enjoyed anything as a child or at any time in his life actually
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 01:10 |
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sexpig by night posted:Yea I agree that the interactivity of games makes the extremely glorified violence a bit more worth looking at critically than we would with movies. For movies I'd say it's mainly the politics of them that's the most toxic. It doesn't really matter how many heads John Bigdick Blastface explodes in Honor Of Freedom: The Snipening or whatever, it more matters that we present him as a heroic figure to emulate as he blasts his way through a country that he kinda shouldn't even be in for no real reason. yeah. i usually have more issues with movies then games. i think its because games have to push Alaois posted:I don't believe him, mostly because I don't believe he enjoyed anything as a child or at any time in his life actually he was raised an evangelical apparently. it really shows. he dropped the beliefs but didn't drop the cultural memes.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 01:12 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:he was raised an evangelical apparently. it really shows. he dropped the beliefs but didn't drop the cultural memes. that makes so much sense i'm blown away i didn't know that already
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 01:16 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:suffering is part of life. i mean sure we should try to midicate it the best we can, but with out some suffering, we wouldnt grow. plus animals(outside the intelligent ones(us. apes, dolphins) and hyenas) don't intentionally try to make things suffer. i mean i used to feel bad for feeding my frogs crickets. but crickets are basically mindless and just poo poo and eat and breed. There’s absolutely no internally consistent moral rubric that would allow the deliberate extinction of an animal species in pursuit of an end to suffering, but how anyone can go far enough down that path to think about sharks and mosquitoes but not see humanity as way worse is extremely dumb and lazy.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 01:22 |
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i loathe guns irl but i like shooting em in my vidyas.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 01:30 |
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Alaois posted:that makes so much sense i'm blown away i didn't know that already yeah, i honestly think if he were dumber or at least less caring about his viewer count, he'd go full jack thompson. he goes there a few times if he gets pissed but then he will do a twitter purge. Groovelord Neato posted:i loathe guns irl but i like shooting em in my vidyas. same. anyway, bethesda show starts in few min. so i am sure we will get some rage when doom 2 is announced. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Jun 11, 2018 |
# ? Jun 11, 2018 01:41 |
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Parakeet vs. Phone posted:And to nerd out about Steven Universe...I get why he would like it, it's basically doing exactly what he's preaching. Our heroes are fighting the good fight, trying to make friends and save their enemies and are all about love and peace...but the show's kind of big on showing how that works out. That's what sort of confuses me about the fandom, though. I'm not saying that all the community is like this, but I've heard stories about SU fans bullying people who did fanart of characters from the series, and that they harassed one of artists on the show to the point where they attempted suicide. Ghostlight posted:https://twitter.com/radicalbytes/status/1005925675121958912 The thing with this tweet is that I can sort of sympathize with that sentiment to a degree. The other day I caught part of some show called Colony, and at first, I thought it was part of an episode of Walking Dead. However, it made me realize that there's a glut of media nowadays that all have this really dreary, glum, depressing theme to them, and it gets exhausting. Even with comedy shows, it still seems like with a lot of them, there's a veneer of cynicism to the humor. I'm not saying that nothing out there that's more lighthearted, but it seems a lot more uncommon. Like, I can't imagine something like Diagnosis: Murder, or Family Matters getting greenlit nowadays. I know those probably aren't the best examples, but they had a kind of tone in their material that you don't really see that much anymore. Groovelord Neato posted:i loathe guns irl but i like shooting em in my vidyas. Vidya Gaem gunz beat actual guns, since the cost of a video game is far less than most any firearm Dapper_Swindler posted:whats funny is the new wolfenstein games are pretty optomistic. a bunch of diffrent and divirse people coming together to save themselves and others from the nazis. BJ is interesting and developed character but he doesnt see that. I know McIntosh wasn't the only person to complain about the difficulty names, but I honestly wish more games had creative difficulty names, as opposed to the generic 'Easy, Medium, Hard, Extra Hard'.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 02:16 |
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sexpig by night posted:he's not wrong that the fact that almost every video game is based around violence with very rare exception is a little troubling and a general tone of "WE MADE TEN WAYS TO RIP A GUY'S FACE OFF AND FEED IT TO HIS MOM" that a lot of devs adapt should be questioned. The problem is he kinda does nothing with that point other than say 'this is bad'. It rings hollow when games have taken a noticeable shift away from that kind of overstimulated 12 year old faux-macho bullshit in the past 5-10 years. No, those attitudes aren't wholly gone, but losing your poo poo about every single action game that gets announced at E3 must be tiring when you could instead be talking about the new Life is Strange game or doing literally anything else. Max Wilco posted:I know McIntosh wasn't the only person to complain about the difficulty names, but I honestly wish more games had creative difficulty names, as opposed to the generic 'Easy, Medium, Hard, Extra Hard'. It was a conversation worth having, IMO. There's ways to do flavor without calling people who want to play on easy little poopy babies. John Murdoch fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Jun 11, 2018 |
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Max Wilco posted:That's what sort of confuses me about the fandom, though. I'm not saying that all the community is like this, but I've heard stories about SU fans bullying people who did fanart of characters from the series, and that they harassed one of artists on the show to the point where they attempted suicide. yeah but its from the old games so eh. new colossus has great campaign, its just kinda short and the part that feels like it should be the watershed half way mark is like 3/4 of the way through. its cool and progressive with good story telling. its just clunky.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 02:20 |
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John Murdoch posted:It rings hollow when games have taken a noticeable shift away from that kind of overstimulated 12 year old faux-macho bullshit in the past 5-10 years. No, those attitudes aren't wholly gone, but losing your poo poo about every single action game that gets announced at E3 must be tiring when you could instead be talking about the new Life is Strange game or doing literally anything else. i wanted to like life is strange but i disliked chloe. and the fact that she is only a nice person if she gets hosed up in a car wreck was kinda hosed up. like i get her character and stuff but jesus. as someone who has disibilites i hate the "magic jesus cripple" poo poo. its why i hate me before you or fault in our stars.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 02:23 |
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Max Wilco posted:That's what sort of confuses me about the fandom, though. I'm not saying that all the community is like this, but I've heard stories about SU fans bullying people who did fanart of characters from the series, and that they harassed one of artists on the show to the point where they attempted suicide. Imo, fans got too attached with SU being the cartoon with LGBT representation and get very, very upset when they think that representation in the cartoon or in fanworks is "done wrong" (e.g. they ship characters they don't like or draw characters the wrong skin tone)
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 02:28 |
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SgtSteel91 posted:Imo, fans got too attached with SU being the cartoon with LGBT representation and get very, very upset when they think that representation in the cartoon or in fanworks is "done wrong" (e.g. they ship characters they don't like or draw characters the wrong skin tone) yeah that shows fans scare the gently caress out of me.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 02:30 |
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Max Wilco posted:The thing with this tweet is that I can sort of sympathize with that sentiment to a degree. The other day I caught part of some show called Colony, and at first, I thought it was part of an episode of Walking Dead. However, it made me realize that there's a glut of media nowadays that all have this really dreary, glum, depressing theme to them, and it gets exhausting. Even with comedy shows, it still seems like with a lot of them, there's a veneer of cynicism to the humor. I'm not saying that nothing out there that's more lighthearted, but it seems a lot more uncommon. Like, I can't imagine something like Diagnosis: Murder, or Family Matters getting greenlit nowadays. I know those probably aren't the best examples, but they had a kind of tone in their material that you don't really see that much anymore. we live in a pretty bleak time. we know the apocalypse is coming and are doing barely anything to avoid it.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 02:30 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i wanted to like life is strange but i disliked chloe. and the fact that she is only a nice person if she gets hosed up in a car wreck was kinda hosed up. like i get her character and stuff but jesus. as someone who has disibilites i hate the "magic jesus cripple" poo poo. its why i hate me before you or fault in our stars.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 02:30 |
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every good thing has fans that take it too far, this is nothing new. fandom is bad
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 02:32 |
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Zedd posted:Life is strange and it´s prequel is a game series about Chloe getting hosed over at every opportunity, hard. And this is coming from somebody that still finds her grating at times. like i feel bad for her but idk. its not my type of game i guess.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 02:33 |
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John Murdoch posted:It was a conversation worth having, IMO. There's ways to do flavor without calling people who want to play on easy little poopy babies. I myself have never really been that bothered by it, and when I played Wolf3D a year or two ago, I played it on the easiest difficulty. I've always just brushed it off, like 'Oh, the game's calling me a wuss for playing on Easy. Ah well, life goes on.' Like you said, it doesn't have to be condescending. Duke3D's easy difficulty was titled 'Piece of Cake'. The only time I have an issue with difficulty is when parts of the game get locked out if you don't play it on higher difficulties.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 02:46 |
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Anything that reaches a certain level of popularity will form a toxic culture. It's the same with my little pony and rick and morty, but there's definitely some psychology at work with the people who get so attached to children's cartoons
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 02:47 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:we live in a pretty bleak time. we know the apocalypse is coming and are doing barely anything to avoid it. the best (?) part about being an evironmental science major is learning just how thoroughly hosed we are. it actually won't be a complete hellscape for many first world nations, but the humanitarian crisis that will result from vast swaths of the middle east, africa and south america experiencing the inevitable environmental collapse that's coming/already in progress is nevertheless going to either force the west to take in a shitload more immigrants than they are prepared to deal with or lead to an even larger rise in fascism than we're already seeing. by the way, it will, without question, be the latter. this isn't even getting into how hosed the oceans are and how hosed the nations that depend on them for food are. like, half the great barrier reef just died in the last two years. this is all poo poo we could have avoided decades ago but didn't and now it's too late, anything we do at this point is far far far too little to avoid any of these eventualities.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 02:50 |
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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:the best (?) part about being an evironmental science major is learning just how thoroughly hosed we are. it actually won't be a complete hellscape for many first world nations, but the humanitarian crisis that will result from vast swaths of the middle east, africa and south america experiencing the inevitable environmental collapse that's coming/already in progress is nevertheless going to either force the west to take in a shitload more immigrants than they are prepared to deal with or lead to an even larger rise in fascism than we're already seeing. yeah . its loving terrryfing and depressing.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 02:52 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:pretty much. i mean in rome they had dudes beating the poo poo out of each other(sometimes to the death) in gladiator rings and they were viewed as celebrities. business hammocks posted:There’s absolutely no internally consistent moral rubric that would allow the deliberate extinction of an animal species in pursuit of an end to suffering, but how anyone can go far enough down that path to think about sharks and mosquitoes but not see humanity as way worse is extremely dumb and lazy. I mean, it's a batshit idea that won't reduce suffering in the world (because desire is the root of suffering), but it is internally consistent without autogenocide. Max Wilco posted:The thing with this tweet is that I can sort of sympathize with that sentiment to a degree. ... However, it made me realize that there's a glut of media nowadays that all have this really dreary, glum, depressing theme to them, and it gets exhausting.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 02:54 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah . its loving terrryfing and depressing. it's more infuriating than anything. the greedy pricks who brought us to this point will not be alive to feel a single solitary consequence of their actions, meanwhile all the neoliberal centrists who have co-opted every left-leaning political party in the world continue to be 100% complacent in it all every single step of the way because they're in just as deep to the fossil fuel industry as the right are. it's highly likely that the situation that led to the continued hellhole that is modern syria would have never occurred without climate change, and that exact scenario is going to become more common and harder to ignore or rationalize away. but hey, it's all been worth it so that those billionaires could afford their fourth yacht and fifth vacation home~
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 03:05 |
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new doom and new wolfenstein(play as BJ's daughters loving nazis up in the 80s) also VR wolfenstein thing. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Jun 11, 2018 |
# ? Jun 11, 2018 03:21 |
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Ghostlight posted:Though not in the same sense that we would use the word. They were admired for their prowess, but being a gladiator of any kind was also seen as a low-class non-productive job that someone should be ashamed of, and almost as bad as being an actor. Some kinds of gladiators were even worse. My apologies for the too-quick reading on that one.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 03:26 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:
I hope Commander Keen is born in this new timeline.
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business hammocks posted:I hope Commander Keen is born in this new timeline. well the twins were both girls. so idk.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 03:28 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:well the twins were both girls. so idk. One could be his mom. BJ is Keen’s grandfather.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 03:29 |
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Where's my grimdark, gritty Commander Keen reboot, Bethesda?!
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 03:29 |
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Where's my grimdark, gritty Commander Keen reboot, Bethesda?! they might.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Where's my grimdark, gritty Commander Keen reboot, Bethesda?! The end of part 3 has Keen in a mostly-empty stadium accepting an award for from the remaining Vorticons he didn’t kill while liberating them.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 03:32 |
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business hammocks posted:The end of part 3 has Keen in a mostly-empty stadium accepting an award for from the remaining Vorticons he didn’t kill while liberating them. I mean... yeah, I guess that's pretty brutal.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 03:33 |
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DOOM Eternal? Pfffttt!! More like, Doom II: Hell on Earth - 2018 Edition! business hammocks posted:One could be his mom. BJ is Keens grandfather.
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https://twitter.com/radicalbytes/status/1006002966829125632 https://twitter.com/radicalbytes/status/1006004672174276608 lol it begins. anyway apperently its more of division type online then MMO thing. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Jun 11, 2018 |
# ? Jun 11, 2018 03:41 |
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It's a survival crafting open-world multiplayer game where you can play alone but also everyone you encounter is a real person.
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# ? Jun 11, 2018 03:51 |
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Ghostlight posted:It's a survival crafting open-world multiplayer game where you can play alone but also everyone you encounter is a real person. sorta. it seems like there is ton of PVE too.
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give obsidian the license you hack frauds.
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