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Our Silver Plan 20k down, no fees. Gold Plan 10k down, 2k/month for 16 months. Platinum Plan 5k down, 2k/month for 12 months, 10% of tarriff in perpetuity INCLUDES ONE TIME MONSTER REMOVAL CONTRACT BEST OFFER!! ! !
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Blasphemaster posted:Id rather not do anything that could screw our client over, save for exorbitant fees for Top Notch services. Build and protect the reputation. Normally yes, but this is the rare case where the person can't tell anyone about our involvement by the nature of the job, and that these tariffs could be highly valuable. Screw one time payments, we need those Alternate. Revenue. Streams.
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Jun 13, 2018 17:56
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I’ve been assuming our employers left anonymous ratings and reviews given that none of them so far have wanted anyone to know a monster was working for them, yet we were simultaneously able to build our reputation.
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Jun 13, 2018 18:24
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How do we enforce continued payment after handing over the fortress?
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Jun 13, 2018 18:27
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Rockopolis posted:How do we enforce continued payment after handing over the fortress? There appear to be magical contracts with conflagration for failure, should be fine.
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Jun 13, 2018 18:39
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Rockopolis posted:How do we enforce continued payment after handing over the fortress? We're the architects of this little fortress. Put in an underwater back door through the well in the center of the keep with a magic gate that we know the password to because we built it. Like someone else suggested, make the fortress out of a living coral that we can come back and command to eat everyone inside it if we need. Put a keystone in that we can pull out and collapse the whole drat thing. We've got all sorts of options.
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Jun 13, 2018 19:00
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Nephzinho posted:There appear to be magical contracts with conflagration for failure, should be fine.
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Jun 13, 2018 19:03
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This is pretty clearly someone who has little to no knowledge of how these deals normally go, I doubt they know a whole lot about how those kinds of contracts work. Could give us quite a bit of wiggle room.
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Jun 13, 2018 20:17
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If we go for royalties, please ensure they don't try to keep them secret by paying us in untraceable DungeonCoin.Splicer posted:Maaaybe put a hold on the backdoor plans then...
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Jun 13, 2018 21:03
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Loel posted:Our Silver Plan I vote we really push for the Platinum Plan idea ^^^ and we make the thing easily floodable like any proper water dungeon.
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Jun 14, 2018 03:27
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"Hey monsters, let's go to the mine."
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Jun 14, 2018 03:42
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 Do not insult me mortal. The offer was an insult. This human had no idea who he was talking to! ”Twenty thousand, or ten upfront and ten percent of the tariffs for ten years.” Sarga stated in a controlled voice. ”Wh-what?” came the stammered reply. ”ten thousand to build and entire island, a fortress and to populate it with enough monsters to put on a good show? Ridiculous. Actually let's make that twenty five thousand.” ”That's preposterous!” ”I am an academy trained master architect and a flesh shaper, I will build you an island fortress that no man will be able to take, you will find no one better. Thirty thousand.” Sargas voice begins to rise and the man's face was beginning to turn to panic. ”Twenty five!” he blurts out. ”Done.” Sarga says. The spell governing the negotiations chimes. ”Wait, that was a counter offer to start bidding!” he squeals. ”Oh, was it? You phrased it poorly, you have to watch these contact spells. I shall expect my half to be deposited by the end of the day. It shall be a pleasure to work with you.” Sarga smiled as toothy a smile as she could, did a small bow, and disconnected. ”Stupid jumped up apes.” he said to herself. Now she had a job, she needs to come up with a plan to complete it. Magic was an option, but it would take a large amount of mana to complete,more than she could draw on herself. He would have to buy a manawell. These could massively increase her available Mana, but we're not cheap. He other option was to use manpower. Her current pool of minions was not large enough to complete the job. She could hire more but there was an option - a Temporal plane. She could place some minions into an alternate plane of existence where time ran much quicker than this and dimension. They could then breed and multiply and she would have a good number loyal minions at the end. None these options were cheap, but they all had advantages. 1- Do we buy a manawell? These are reusable, but will only recharge 1 mana a day. A- a small one for 1000 gold. B - a medium one for 2500 gold C - a large one or 10,000 gold. D - no. 2- Do we hire more workers? A - yes, 10 gold a month per worker. Need an overseer per 100. Overseers need 100 gold a month. B- No. 3- do we put our minions into a temporal plane. The cost is 2,500 gold per 100 years,and we can put as many minions in as you like. But the original minions will have lived out their lives by the time they come out, unless we take steps. quote:
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Jun 14, 2018 06:55
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1 B 2 A, 100 workers and an overseer 3 Yes. Crabbersons and pistol shrimpmen go into the pot.
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Jun 14, 2018 07:10
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super sweet best pal posted:1 B That would burn a ton of our cash. 1 B 2 A 50 workers + overseer 3 No
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Jun 14, 2018 07:20
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True, but we can put more of our next gen crabbersons back into the mine to increase its output, we'd end up making money.
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Jun 14, 2018 07:24
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How many crabbersons do we get after each iteration? If we can spend 10k for 400 years, and turn 6 minions into 600, we've got a dungeon army right out of the gate.
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Jun 14, 2018 07:32
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Using the human population growth calculator, 400 years would tunr your 6 crabbersons into a crabberson tribe of 700....
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Jun 14, 2018 07:53
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Grey Hunter posted:Using the human population growth calculator, 400 years would tunr your 6 crabbersons into a crabberson tribe of 700.... Kay, we assuming .012 growth annual then? Awesome Spend all the money on dimensional growth. All of it. 800 years. 5 beavers = 70,000 beavers 2 mantishrimp = 28,000 shrimp 6 crabbersons = 84,000 crabbersons If you vote for anything else you are wrong. http://www.metamorphosisalpha.com/ias/population.php
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Jun 14, 2018 07:58
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Can we borrow money against our new contract (remaining 10kgp). That would give us another 400 years. 1200 years: 5 beavers = 8,200,000 beavers 2 mantishrimp = 3,300,000 shrimp 6 crabbersons = 9,800,000 crabbersons
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Jun 14, 2018 08:08
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That is a lot of inbreeding.
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Jun 14, 2018 08:11
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Then you either go bankrupt trying to feed them, or there is mass starvation..... I'm not saying no, but having that many minions and completing your contract may be mutually exclusive.
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Jun 14, 2018 08:11
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Splicer posted:That is a lot of inbreeding. Grey Hunter posted:Then you either go bankrupt trying to feed them When you have one problem, thats a problem. When you have two problems, thats a solution  
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Jun 14, 2018 08:19
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As much as I’d like to go full Froopyland in here are we sure the ecosystem in the temporal plane is big enough to keep so many creatures alive? More importantly both the beaverpeople and shrimppeople are sentient enough to form an entire civilization inside which might not want to serve us. The shrimppeople in particular would be difficult to resubjugate. So maybe we should only do it for 200-400 years as a test trial. We should also set up a monolith that looks like us and give them a few guide books on henching rewritten as religious texts.
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Jun 14, 2018 08:41
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I say we revisit the time portal at a later date when we've built up a more diverse gene pool. Grey Hunter what's the benefit of a large vs a small manawell?
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Jun 14, 2018 08:50
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You can't leave servants alone for too many centuries with no means of control. Didn't you read Hitmen for Destiny? Seriously, go read it, it's a good comic. http://hitmen.thecomicseries.com/comics/first/
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Jun 14, 2018 08:51
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Just the amount of manaitcan hold. They coome fully charged. It's 100/250/1000.
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Jun 14, 2018 09:08
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Let's assume we can reliably keep a race of beastmen enthralled by legends of our return for 100 years at a time without putting any work into it. Can we "fast forward" minion development and then "appear" every 100 years to help guide their progress?
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Jun 14, 2018 09:12
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Grey Hunter posted:Just the amount of manaitcan hold. They coome fully charged. In that case let's buy 10 small manawells for the cost of one large manawell but with 10 times the recharge speed. It's a chunk of change but 1k mana will let us build a pretty nice castle followed by +10 bankable mana per day for the rest of our career slash life.
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Jun 14, 2018 09:29
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Splicer posted:*nods thoughtfully* Hooboy I like this. Plus 10 small manawells means that some jumped-up hero can't gently caress us up with one lucky surgical strike breaking our large manawell, they'd have to hunt down and destroy all 10 for the same effect.
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Jun 14, 2018 09:31
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Could we buy a bunch of the mana wells, empty them fully on fast castle building, and then put them all in a time bubble to refill overnight?
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Jun 14, 2018 09:33
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After 1200 years I wonder if it’s more likely we find the descendents of our minions have blown eachother up, gone the way of the Eloi and Morlocks, created a utopia, or prepared a steampunk legion to conquer our world.
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Jun 14, 2018 09:49
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We could brainwash our Lieutenants some more and have them birth an elite guard. Maybe extend their lives a couple hundred years so they'll still be around after the first cycle.
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Jun 14, 2018 09:50
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Can we just start cloning them? Or make some starfishmen that regrow into more starfishmen when you chop them up?
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This is a real tough one. What is the time dimension like? Are we building the castle in the time dimension or are we using it to breed minions and then build it separately? We would need to make sure that they continued to know how to build as they repopulated, we also would need to make sure there were idols of us everywhere and that we had god-like status in their habitat. But that is a lot of minions to house afterwards if we went all out, and the slightest error could result in a large population that didn't want to leave their time dilated utopia to work for us. Using the temporal plane seems to be the most obvious/long term beneficial option, but also lots can go wrong + the mine is not being productive while we have the workers out.
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What steps are required to keep the first batch alive a few centuries in Narnia? Having founding fathers last that long should do what we need. How long, relative to us, will they be in Narnia? Will we be able to use ten thousand beavers in the next mission, or are they out of play? Have any other monster contractors done this? What did they do to encourage loyalty over long periods of time? Can we pop a hundred out every Narnia decade or so to remind them who we are?
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Deadmeat5150 posted:That would burn a ton of our cash. This, but 100 workers + overseer. Otherwise we're overpaying on Overseer potential! Messing around with Temporal nonsense has too many ways to go bad. We should keep the Shrimpmantispeople/crabbersons in the mine, that's good passive income. For the "Invasion" we can outsource some goblins or whatever. And maybe some certain beaverpeople that are just a little too organized for my taste.
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Control could be easy. If the plane is relatively empty have the magic food/water creator only respond to prayers of devotion.
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Not Alex posted:Control could be easy. If the plane is relatively empty have the magic food/water creator only respond to prayers of devotion. Oh, that's elegant. Very good. Here's the spread: Range of options quote:800 years in the box: costs 20,000gp quote:700 years in box: costs 17500 quote:600 years in box: costs 15000 quote:500 years in box: costs 12500 quote:400 years in box: costs 10000 quote:300 years in box: costs 7500 quote:200 years in box: costs 5000 quote:100 years in box: costs 2500 I think 500 years is the sweet spot, it moves us from 12 minions to 5000, and from 50 mana to 700. We get a MASSIVE power boost, and 5k minions won't be as insane as trying to set up logistics for a quarter million.
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Just a thought, but a 1/day mana pool in the time hole for a few hundred years?
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AJ_Impy posted:Just a thought, but a 1/day mana pool in the time hole for a few hundred years? The biggest mana wall we can get is like three years. Unless you're proposing we go in the time hole, which, uh....
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