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merk
May 20, 2003

##interact
9 alive.

If this is a traditional cult, there are at most 3 cultists remaining:
n0: Cult Recruiter
n1: Cult Recruiter + Recruit1
n2: Cult Recruiter + Recruit 1 + Recruit 2
n3: Cult Recruiter + Recruit 1 + Recruit 2 + Recruit 3

If there is a traditional cult and a traditional scum team for this size of game (3 scum), that means there are 3 town, 3 scum, and 3 cult remaining.

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merk
May 20, 2003

##interact

b-minus1 posted:

why would scum AS try to get herself lynched d1? If anything, a PGO balances out the cult recruiting ability.

That would be hilarious if alasdair tried to recruit AS last night

If AS is scum, Town is so bad now that I don't think AS was ever in danger of being lynched d1. Only Hal was making sense.

If AS is the Cult Recruiter, a "wild-aligned PGO" claim on d1 is pretty brilliant.

merk
May 20, 2003

##interact
I think Hal is scum.
I think AS is not town.
I am unsure on Keane but leaning not town.

That's as far as I've gotten before a reread, which I will do now.

merk
May 20, 2003

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IllegallySober posted:

Between Hal and Sal, I had Sal as a scum read earlier, although I'm not dead-set one way or another. Can someone please link me to a case on Hal?

IllegallySober posted:

I'm likely gone from this point forward. Please dunk a scum.

These posts came 45m apart. You couldn't go through the thread and figure out what you thought of Hal's alignment in that time?

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
Wild-aligned:
1. Atomic Soda, claimed PGO

Council-aligned:
1. Anomalous Amalgam, Sofia, Constable (council-aligned naive cop)
2. Monathin, Cornelia, Inquisitor (council-aligned cult cop)
3. merk, claimed council-aligned
4. moatilla, claimed council-aligned

Town-aligned:
1. Tired Moritz, Ignacio, Villager (town-aligned vanilla)
2. Dick Bastardly, Matteo, Villager (town-aligned vanilla)
3. SalTheBard, Luis, Villager (town-aligned vanilla)
4. Hal, claimed town-aligned vanilla
5. b-minus, claimed town aligned

Cult-aligned:
1. Alasdair, Victoria, Follower (cult-aligned cultist)

unknown alignments:
Podima
Illegally Sober
Keane
Slamburger

Let me know if there are any mistakes.

Slamburger
Jun 27, 2008

I see no harm in claiming: I'm Council

merk
May 20, 2003

##interact

Slamburger posted:

Thinking further, having a Death Miller die at some later point gives the scum:

1. Ability to argue gambit/scum whichever way benefits their fake cases with no answer until the game ends.
2. Ability to post non-casework content by trying to "solve" gambit/scum and/or egging on town that will inevitably also be trying to solve that even if its pointless.

So yeah, having a Death Miller survive for any period of time seems like a major pain, so sorry if you're telling the truth and Ecco gave you a bum role AS, but

##unvote
##vote AS

I'm sorry. You were also making sense d1.

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

So I am guessing council-aligned are non-VT town then, I suppose that makes an Ecco sort of sense

That definitely makes wild-aligned sound 3p/scum for sure.

merk
May 20, 2003

##interact

Hal Incandenza posted:

So I am guessing council-aligned are non-VT town then, I suppose that makes an Ecco sort of sense

That definitely makes wild-aligned sound 3p/scum for sure.

Yes.

Slamburger
Jun 27, 2008

Hal Incandenza posted:

So I am guessing council-aligned are non-VT town then

This has been my working assumption so far in this game as well.

Referee
Aug 25, 2004

"Winning is great, sure, but if you are really going to do something in life, the secret is learning how to lose. Nobody goes undefeated all the time. If you can pick up after a crushing defeat, and go on to win again, you are going to be a champion someday."
(Wilma Rudolph)

merk posted:

These posts came 45m apart. You couldn't go through the thread and figure out what you thought of Hal's alignment in that time?

No. I was finishing up at work and had told the thread I was out after 5 PM PST which was why I requested the help in the first place.

Referee
Aug 25, 2004

"Winning is great, sure, but if you are really going to do something in life, the secret is learning how to lose. Nobody goes undefeated all the time. If you can pick up after a crushing defeat, and go on to win again, you are going to be a champion someday."
(Wilma Rudolph)

Slamburger posted:

I see no harm in claiming: I'm Council

Hal Incandenza posted:

So I am guessing council-aligned are non-VT town then, I suppose that makes an Ecco sort of sense

Slamburger posted:

This has been my working assumption so far in this game as well.

So you're now outing yourself as a power role, Slam?

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
fwiw we don't know for sure if all council aligned are town PRs or if all town aligned are vanilla.

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
Also if there are cult AND scum factions then town/council doesn't stand a chance lol. I'm only going to worry about cult for right now.

Moatillata
Dec 13, 2006

Maintain.

Hal Incandenza posted:

So I am guessing council-aligned are non-VT town then, I suppose that makes an Ecco sort of sense

That definitely makes wild-aligned sound 3p/scum for sure.


IllegallySober posted:

So you're now outing yourself as a power role, Slam?

Jfc guys

I bet pod has been culted already.

My money is on ##vote cckeane

Moatillata
Dec 13, 2006

Maintain.

merk posted:

If AS is scum, Town is so bad now that I don't think AS was ever in danger of being lynched d1. Only Hal was making sense.

If AS is the Cult Recruiter, a "wild-aligned PGO" claim on d1 is pretty brilliant.

Also it really hurt us. I really believe the PGO claim now because it would make sense to have one to offset the cult recruiter

Slamburger
Jun 27, 2008

IllegallySober posted:

So you're now outing yourself as a power role, Slam?

I'm not vanilla but I'm not powerful either.

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
We still haven't been able to explain why 2 people died n1, and nobody died n2. Maybe cult couldn't recruit the first night? Do cults typically have killing actions?
There could be a town/3p vig. That person should consider claiming imo.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Anomalous Amalgam posted:

I'll come clean. I think I'm a naive cop. I determine if someone is innocent. In flavor I'm a constable that's not seen much crime.

I checked podima.

He claimed to be a town over, and my character the constable, checked his alibi. It checked out.

So I got a result of Podima being innocent.

Nothing pertaining to alignment, but then again who knows.

If I get lunched and I'm not naive or insane, pod is probably town.

If I get killed tonight, and am not naive or insane, pod is probably town.

If I survive the night, and don't get lunched, I will probably have been blocked.

If there's a cult, it won't matter long term anyhow lol.

So that's like my next 10 plays or the equivalent.

I think putting it out in the open might be the best course of action here. I've ran the numbers, so to speak.

Hi, hello.

Pod is cult, thank you, good night.

merk
May 20, 2003

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CCKeane posted:

Hi, hello.

Pod is cult, thank you, good night.

At what could potentially be COMPLETELY hosed status if we mislynch, you need to claim.

merk
May 20, 2003

##interact

b-minus1 posted:

We still haven't been able to explain why 2 people died n1, and nobody died n2. Maybe cult couldn't recruit the first night? Do cults typically have killing actions?
There could be a town/3p vig. That person should consider claiming imo.

EccoRaven posted:

:s: Dick Bastardly, Matteo, Villager (town-aligned vanilla), died in his sleep night 1. :s:
:s: Monathin, Cornelia, Inquisitor (council-aligned cult cop), committed suicide night 1.
:s:

Flavor is weird too on the suicide kill.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

merk posted:

At what could potentially be COMPLETELY hosed status if we mislynch, you need to claim.

Why didn't you challenge me yesterday?

merk
May 20, 2003

##interact

CCKeane posted:

Why didn't you challenge me yesterday?

I did. We ran out of time.

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

CCKeane posted:

Hi, hello.

Pod is cult, thank you, good night.

Haha nice

##vote podima

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

merk posted:

I did. We ran out of time.

Nah.

P.S. Look at Pod, thank you.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Hal Incandenza posted:

So I am guessing council-aligned are non-VT town then, I suppose that makes an Ecco sort of sense

That definitely makes wild-aligned sound 3p/scum for sure.

This is a fair take as well.

Moatillata
Dec 13, 2006

Maintain.

CCKeane posted:

Nah.

P.S. Look at Pod, thank you.

You would know since you culted him

This is an obvious distraction cckeane is the cult man and I am insulted that I was never invited to the club

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Moatillata posted:

You would know since you culted him

This is an obvious distraction cckeane is the cult man and I am insulted that I was never invited to the club

I have to say "Pod is scum BUT SO ARE YOU" is a take I wasn't expecting.

Moatillata
Dec 13, 2006

Maintain.

CCKeane posted:

I have to say "Pod is scum BUT SO ARE YOU" is a take I wasn't expecting.

I'm a loose cannon Keane you know this

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Moatillata posted:

I'm a loose cannon Keane you know this

I mean, if we accept this premise it seems like we should both vote Pod, then.

Moatillata
Dec 13, 2006

Maintain.
Not really. Since we had a cult cop and they're dead. I'm assuming you are trying to softclaim cop of some kind

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Moatillata posted:

Not really. Since we had a cult cop and they're dead. I'm assuming you are trying to softclaim cop of some kind

I don't know where you're getting that from.

Moatillata
Dec 13, 2006

Maintain.
Also I had already posted earlier about pod



Moatillata posted:

I bet pod has been culted already.

Moatillata
Dec 13, 2006

Maintain.

CCKeane posted:

Hi, hello.

Pod is cult, thank you, good night.

This seems like a cop claim to me?

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Moatillata posted:

Also I had already posted earlier about pod

Then we agree we should vote Pod, I'm glad.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Moatillata posted:

This seems like a cop claim to me?

It is not.

Read AA's post in context of Alasdair's flip.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Moatillata posted:

This seems like a cop claim to me?

Wait wait wait, you thought this was a cop claim when we've had two cops flip already?

Moatillata
Dec 13, 2006

Maintain.

CCKeane posted:

Wait wait wait, you thought this was a cop claim when we've had two cops flip already?

Hence my reaction

Also it seemed like bminus treated it the same way but I guess I'm missing something with the post and flip

Moatillata
Dec 13, 2006

Maintain.
And I'm still not seeing what you're saying. Bminus can you explain it to me please since you seem to have figured it out

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CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Moatillata posted:

And I'm still not seeing what you're saying. Bminus can you explain it to me please since you seem to have figured it out

I'll hold off for B-, then.

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