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Other than the merger, I have no M&A.
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Jun 12, 2018 17:27
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I think Lecher is the only one who needs to nod through this round.
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Jun 12, 2018 19:53
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Sorry, I was traveling and didn’t realize it was all me. Not going to merge anything this time.
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Jun 13, 2018 16:24
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I think everyone's declined to convert, merge or sell, so we're onto the second OR, Papes to go. e: Interest set at 15. Mr. Squishy fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Jun 13, 2018 |
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Jun 13, 2018 17:41
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Lays 8 tile on D10 with W exit Pays 15 to build through mountains Takes out 1 loan to do this Pays 15 interest Runs for 60 and withholds, Stock drops 3
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Jun 15, 2018 02:14
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You don't pay terrain costs when placing down a mine, so you don't need that loan. I've updated the sheet with just the witholding, speak up if that's not ok.
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Jun 15, 2018 09:31
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CSX Operates Lay Straight track at I17 Takes 2 loans (4 steps back) Runs 2T from New Orleans - Port of New Orleans for $60 Full pay, $24 to Panzeh, $36 to company (1 step forward) Pay $30 interest Buy 3 2+ trains for $300 Share price is now $82, holdings are now $6
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Jun 15, 2018 11:53
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SP operates Lay track at H12, exit SW Use Boom Town private to upgrade I13 (not a tile lay), exits NW, W, SW, SE. Take out 1 loan Run 2T San Antonio~Mexico for 60 "" Pay Half Dividends of 60, move up 1 space. Pay 35 interest (2 normal loans, 1 land grant) Buy two 2+ trains Share price 78, holdings 5 e: people can start buying up 3s, right?
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Jun 15, 2018 12:08
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Mr. Squishy posted:SP operates Yep.
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Jun 15, 2018 14:35
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Mr. Squishy posted:You don't pay terrain costs when placing down a mine, so you don't need that loan. I've updated the sheet with just the witholding, speak up if that's not ok.
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Jun 15, 2018 17:17
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StashAugustine posted:Is this for all mines or just when the company explicitly says so? All coal and iron tokens do this in USA.
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Jun 15, 2018 17:49
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Cool. Realized my math in the last post was based on somehow conflating holdings and stock price. Lay track Atlanta (exit to meet with other track) Run Jacksonville-Atlanta for $60, run Florida-Jacksonville for $70, total $130 Half pay $65 to me, $65 to company (stock price+) Pay $30 in interest Holdings $145, stock $86 Out of curiosity: if you need to cover a chunk of money, it seems like withholding dividends is better than taking a loan assuming it covers enough cash- it doesn't cost interest and only hits stock once rather than twice (although you can't make up for it by paying it off later). Is that pretty much how it works?
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Jun 15, 2018 18:39
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StashAugustine posted:Cool. Realized my math in the last post was based on somehow conflating holdings and stock price. It's one way to do things, but cash on hand is extremely valuable in 18xx, you want to withhold as little as possible.
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Jun 15, 2018 19:06
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Yes, the whole genre is a searing indictment of the capitalist class.
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Jun 15, 2018 21:36
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Makes sense, I think I might need to think more about what companies can do for me than vice versa
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Jun 15, 2018 21:49
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A 2-share company with no debt and a 3 or even possibly a 4-train is really good, but getting there is quite hard without sabotaging your game. The advantage that 5 and 10 share companies have is that you can full pay and still have some money going into the company to pay interest- at least until players buy all the shares, though that'll generally get the company easy capital.
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Jun 15, 2018 22:01
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Welp, the run on 2+ sure screwed me a bit. Great Northern operates Lay B16 NW-E, B18 E-SW Run Fargo-Winnipeg ($50) Half pay $25 me $25 GNR Pay $15 interest Company has $77, I have $28, no stock movement EDIT: Edited to mistakenly bump GNR up one in stock, but it didn't meet the threshhold, so re-edited to correct my correction. Porfiriato fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Jun 18, 2018 |
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Jun 16, 2018 07:01
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N&W operates Lay tile E25 (free with mine), E27 for $20 to NYC Run NYC-Columbus for $70, run Detroit-Columbus for $50 Half pay $60 company $60 me Pay $30 in interest Holdings $64, stock price $66
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Jun 16, 2018 07:28
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UP Operates Lay straight tile on B6 using coal token Lay Straight tile on B10 using an iron token for $20 Run 2T from Helena to Seattle for $60, full pay Pay $15 in loan fees Buy 2T from CSX for $1 Share price increases to $66, holdings are $45 Panzeh fucked around with this message at 10:59 on Jun 16, 2018 |
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Jun 16, 2018 10:50
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Known Lecher posted:Welp, the run on 2+ sure screwed me a bit. Yah, that's why I made the merged company- to ramp up the share price and be the first in to get those juicy 2+s.
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Jun 16, 2018 10:55
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Northern Pacific operates Lay D2 NE-SE Run 2T (w/Double Heading) Portland-Seattle-Helena ($20+$30+$10 coal+$20)=$80, pay half Pay $30 interest Company has $88, I have $68 I don't think I got credited with my personal cash from GNR's half pay on the spreadsheet because I still only have $3. Edit: Also, please make sure to flip your token on the stock market at Board18 when you operate...I've been using that to keep track of turns, because the logos on the Board18 tokens are tiny and I haven't memorized which one goes with which railroad. I think one of NW or UP wasn't flipped when I checked so I was staring at the board thinking it wasn't my turn 
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Jun 18, 2018 05:23
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Yeah, besides Panzeh's, the sheet hasn't been updated since before your last post. Im on it. Also another artefact of 'USA's very long market is you move up 1 when paying more than half the current stock price. Check the ribbons above the track for values needed for moving 1 to 4 spaces. So Stash, Lecher, you should be up a notch. Panzeh, you moved down 2 for 0 divs last OR, so you're undervalued too.
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Jun 18, 2018 09:46
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BNSF operates Upgrades Santa Fe with boomtown subsidy, new exits W and NE. Lay F12, exit NE run Santa Fe-Denver for 70 Run santa fe- the other place for 70 Full divs Pay 30 interest Stock increases 4 to 59, holdings at 2
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Jun 18, 2018 10:00
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Someone move my token, it's hard to do on mobil. I believe the other place is called San Antonio.
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Jun 18, 2018 10:02
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Mr. Squishy posted:Yeah, besides Panzeh's, the sheet hasn't been updated since before your last post. Im on it. Yeah sorry about that- I totally forgot to move my token, also I don't have write access to the sheet
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Mr. Squishy posted:Yeah, besides Panzeh's, the sheet hasn't been updated since before your last post. Im on it. Ah thanks, I fixed NP's log on here and stock token on the board. (Pretty sure BNSF was in the 59 slot first regardless so I put NP's token underneath.) Western Pacific operates Lay Rural Junction W/NW/E/SE in The Village Formerly Known as Sacramento Run 2T LA-SF for $50, pay half Pay $15 interest Stock increases 1 44->46 Company has $15, I have $93
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Jun 18, 2018 18:32
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silvergoose posted:Hey for those of us watching, posting the map occasionally would be hella sweet. reminder 
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Jun 18, 2018 18:36
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I'm having a hell of a time trying to screenshot the map since it's bigger than my laptop screen, but since it's an internal frame on the page or something "full-page" screenshots aren't capturing it all either, just the visible part.
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Jun 18, 2018 18:56
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 It's M&A round, i'll be passing on all M&A this round.
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Jun 19, 2018 01:55
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Pass
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Jun 19, 2018 02:43
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I don't think it's technically my turn, but I'm going to be on planes for about 24 hours tomorrow so I'm going now. I don't think it really matters anyway. GNR and NP merge, keeping GNR alive, the new share price is $120 Buy 1 share of GNR for $66 Not doing any other M&A action after this, obviously. edit: leaving the tokens on the stock market in place for now just in case I screwed something up somehow. Edit2: Yep, screwed something up. Fixed now. Porfiriato fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Jun 21, 2018 |
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Jun 19, 2018 04:02
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Known Lecher posted:I don't think it's technically my turn, but I'm going to be on planes for about 24 hours tomorrow so I'm going now. I don't think it really matters anyway. So, when you merge two companies, their share prices are summed together, thusly the share price would be $120
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Jun 19, 2018 11:13
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 I thought it was the average of the two, I’ll merge and not buy a share then.
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Jun 19, 2018 13:19
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Merging 2-shares sums, merging 5-shares averages. Investors are bubbly when two presumably profitable companies get together and float on the market for the first time. When two larger business combine to stave off bankruptcy, people are less enthusiastic.
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Sometimes 2-share companies merge to stave off bankruptcy too, but don't tell the investors  Since we're still in the M&A round and my plans were partially thwarted by my incompetence, I'd like to take a second action assuming everyone ahead of me passes. (I think everyone but Stash has already passed anyway.) We're technically doing this by operating order so it's the last company anyway. Western Pacific converts to a 5-share company The president (me) buys Everyone else has an opportunity to buy shares, I assume there won't be any takers. WP has only one token, so it buys a second token for $50 Company has (15+46-50)=$11 (unless someone else buys in), I have $47 I'll edit the GNR-NP merger post to fix the share price and the fact that I'm not buying in. Edit: Fixed to only buy 1 share instead of 2 since the limit is 3 shares in a 5-share company, and I was mistakenly thinking that shares exchanged 2-for-1 like in a merger. Nope! Porfiriato fucked around with this message at 08:06 on Jun 21, 2018 |
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Jun 21, 2018 04:56
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Yeah sorry, I might as well pass. Not really sure what the long-term viability of anything I've done is but gently caress it
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I'm also going to pass on merging/converting/putting my companies up for sale. And for buying Lecher's share. I would, but I'm happy w/ my lump at the moment. In making the new tab, I thought I'd better check on stock prices because I didn't trust all the values put down. Some are just me not updating the cells, I think Lecher didn't add his companies together right, and I don't really know why I took BNSF back 6 spaces rather than 5 in the 1st OR, but I did. I've updated the sheet and board to fix the correct values, here's a copy of my working. Another thing worth noting is that the end of 2nd OR 1, all remaining 2Ts are exported (all 0 of them) and we enter phase 3. Green tiles are availible, off-board routes use green values, and you can IPO a 5-Share. You determine the number of shares a company has after you win the auction for the President's share. As I'm the preferred dealer, I go first in this Stock Round: Buy Share of CSX [/b] e: changed my move. Mr. Squishy fucked around with this message at 15:04 on Jun 21, 2018 |
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Jun 21, 2018 13:25
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Not buying WP on M&A.
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Having thought more about it, and Lecher hasn't gone yet, I'll change my move a third time if no one objects: Short GNR IPO's NYC in east New York for $254 No one can match that NYC is a 2-Share with initial stock price of $127
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