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Banana Canada posted:^ careful there - you might catch a probe for space-racism like the last guy who used the K-word (was it you?) ^ They take off a breen's suit offscreen at some point to use it as a disguise, which implies that they saw what a breen looks like. I really like the idea of a gas giant species. There was a terrible 90's PC game called Conquest Earth in which a race of beings from Jupiter attacks Earth as revenge for the galileo probe, which deposited a (to them) deadly microbe in the atmosphere when it fell into Jupiter which killed off most of them. The fog of war in the game was a literal fog that the Jovians would spread on the map as a breathing gas, and you had a special human unit who could clear the fog with pellets of oxygen. The Jovians were gaseous inside of a biomechanical suit and could merge together to form bigger units. The gameplay was utter poo poo, probably one of the worst RTS games, but I really liked the idea of such a species. Gas giants are fascinating and I wish they'd show up more. CGI was very expensive for 90's trek, so whenever they had an Odo morph that would eat up a big chunk of an episode's budget, which is why they stuck to humanoid aliens. But now half the episode consists of lovely lensflare orange/blue CGI, there's really no excuse not to show us the Tholians or other non-humanoid creatures. But no, instead they went with a universe of evil humans.
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Hipster_Doofus posted:And I can speak highly accurate English with a mouth full of cotton.* It still sounds ridiculous. Tell that to Marlon Brando, he made it work.
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The Fuzzy Hulk posted:Has Star Trek every has a Christmas episode? I can’t even remember a single time they even mentioned Christmas existed. Voyager got turned into a christmas ornament by Q once too. As far as the Klingons, I'm mixed about them. Don't like somethings, like other things. I don't have anything personal against the idea that the houses all have different feels, if they wanna run with that. In the end though, I actually liked the klingon strip mall in the last episode, so if I get more of that then I think it will be fine.
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While I'm not the hugest fan of how the heads turned out, going the extra distance to show cultural diversity on Kronos with all the different houses having different wardrove designs and such is the right idea.
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ashpanash posted:It's a hell of a lot easier to add a lens flare than to model an entirely new alien species. TOS had more non-humanoid aliens than any subsequent series.
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It's a shame that the horta can't show up, I wouldn't mind seeing more of them. That was a good episode.
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Banana Canada posted:^ careful there - you might catch a probe for space-racism like the last guy who used the K-word (was it you?) ^ 
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Killer-of-Lawyers posted:It's a shame that the horta can't show up, I wouldn't mind seeing more of them. That was a good episode. You should read the old TOS novels. There's a Horta crewman! Long live Naraht! Edit:... I own all the old TOS novels.
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Stairs posted:You should read the old TOS novels. There's a Horta crewman! Long live Naraht! There's a TNG novel about a whole ship crewed exclusively by Hortas.
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Everything Discovery has done with Klingons will be forgiven if they just have some fun ones in the second season.
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STD could completely turn it around for a second season. They won't, but they could!
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The Fuzzy Hulk posted:Has Star Trek every has a Christmas episode? I can’t even remember a single time they even mentioned Christmas existed. I mean the series finale of TNG was a remake of A Christmas Carol set on the Enterprise, basically.
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Emerson Cod posted:I mean the series finale of TNG was a remake of A Christmas Carol set on the Enterprise, basically. Except A Christmas Carol actually has the main character learn something meaningful.
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He did: mapping stars and studying nebulae is fuckin' lame maaan. Like study the possibilities of existence or something, god!
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Picard has been on a quest to learn everything possible. Exploring the edges of Federation space, archaeology, trying to take everything and catalog it so it can be shared and understood. The universe is bigger and more complicated than he could ever hope to understand. Striving towards that goal will leave him with a life full of regrets. Instead he needs to focus on the things that aren't so "important"...getting to know his crew better, learning more about himself and his place in this corner of the universe. The revelation Q encouraged in Picard wasn't that he needs to go get a better understanding of temporal quantum mechanics or any such thing, it's that he needs to embrace that some things just simply won't make sense, that's ok, but he can learn and grow from them anyway.
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The showrunners were just fired halfway through production of S2, for budget overruns and abusing the writers. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/star-trek-discovery-showrunners-alex-kurtzman-take-1120416 Kurtzman is now sole showrunner. Barry Convex fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Jun 15, 2018 |
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Barry Convex posted:The showrunners were just fired halfway through production of S2, for budget overruns and abusing the writers. No thanks. I’ll give it the premiere, but wow, that’s just horrible news that instills precisely zero confidence.
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So much for a better second season due to a lack of troubled production!
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I'm rooting for this show, but that doesn't give me any confidence. Kurtzman was the less hackish half or the Kurtzman/Orci duo, right? At least he's the one who's not a truther.
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I’m fine with Kurtzman, it’s not like he could possibly make Discovery any worse. Maybe we will get Bruce Campbell as a guest star.
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What is it with Season 2 of a ST show and terrible writers' room environments?
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Barry Convex posted:The showrunners were just fired halfway through production of S2, for budget overruns and abusing the writers. quote:Insiders also stress that Berg and Harberts became increasingly abusive to the Discovery writing staff, with Harberts said to have leaned across the writers room table while shouting an expletive at a member of the show's staff. LOL, yes, that's how you motivate workers! Picard did it all the time.
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Barry Convex posted:The showrunners were just fired halfway through production of S2, for budget overruns and abusing the writers. quote:Sources say the budget for the season two premiere ballooned, with the overages expected to come out of subsequent episodes from Discovery's sophomore run. What if the entire season was like that time loop episode everybody liked??? That was cheap to shoot!
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Wow. Does anyone still think this show will last longer than Enterprise? e: that article honestly buried the lede if anything. Not only are the show runners fired but the budget for later episodes is being stripped, Akiva Goldsman is out too, there is a “planned” production hiatus upcoming... skasion fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Jun 15, 2018 |
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bring back old gbs posted:What if the entire season was like that time loop episode everybody liked??? That was cheap to shoot! Bottle shows can be done well, some of Trek's best episodes are in that format: The Drumhead, Measure of a Man, The Wire, and Duet all come to mind. But I don't have faith in Disco's writers to pull off an episode like that.
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bring back old gbs posted:What if the entire season was like that time loop episode everybody liked??? That was cheap to shoot! Clip show episode!
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Barry Convex posted:The showrunners were just fired halfway through production of S2, for budget overruns and abusing the writers. kinda ironic that this happened on a show that's known for promoting utopian values
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galenanorth posted:kinda ironic that this happened on a show that's known for promoting utopian values I think you're confusing this show with "Star Trek."
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:maybe next season they'll have a klingon with three dicks I have exactly three ToS era Star Trek books, and in one of them they allude to Klingons having three testicles. I can't believe this keeps happening to the show. The second half of last season was a big improvement, and I really started to give a poo poo about most of the characters. I want this to be good, I don't want them to be stuck in production hell every loving season. Now, reduced budget need not be a catastrophe. Flashy graphic effects are not as important as good character work. The writers just have to do a little bit of work to make crew interactions interesting, and then they can tell good stories with less money.
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:maybe next season they'll have a klingon with three dicks Don't get my hopes up.
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Barry Convex posted:The showrunners were just fired halfway through production of S2, for budget overruns and abusing the writers. Is Kurtzman the 9/11 truther?
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Roberto Orci is the 9/11 Truther. https://uproxx.com/filmdrunk/star-trek-writer-roberto-orci-deletes-twitter-account-what-happened/
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Cythereal posted:Bottle shows can be done well, some of Trek's best episodes are in that format: The Drumhead, Measure of a Man, The Wire, and Duet all come to mind. But I don't have faith in Disco's writers to pull off an episode like that. Much less 5 of them...
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xerxus posted:Roberto Orci is the 9/11 Truther. Which was funny considering the rah-rah pro military themes running through a lot of their work like the first Transformers.
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Shibawanko posted:Discovery was really bad and overall nothing is lost if it gets axed If Discovery gets axed for sucking there won't be TV trek again for another long time I personally hope it gets its poo poo together and does well. I don't think it will, mind you, but I'd like it.
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