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You'd have to be absurdly fixated on canon over story to think that the scalp thing is all this episode brought to the table. This episode disrupts the thesis that host awareness is born from suffering; this was a host who was rarely injured, rarely died, and was led to awareness by curiosity, conviction, and love. Maeve and Akecheta are both interesting foils to Dolores, in that their "awakening" is an emergent result of how their programmed personalities respond to new contexts and dissonant information. That's way more important than the scalp thing.
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idk that it totally subverts the idea that suffering is a key part of them becoming conscious, it just (maybe) lowers the bar from a "thousand lifetimes of outright abuse" to "writers took away the woman you loved a long time ago". I still think they were implying he was not having a great time after the re-write in a somewhat comparable way to other abused hosts, but that was his new cornerstone moment once he got his head around it.
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Yeah, he definitely had his own unique way of suffering, but he did it in one or two lifetimes rather than thousands like some of the others. That part was pretty different.
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Everyone has their own hero's journey to awakening Welcome to The Hero with a Thousand Faces world
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has anyone made a westerosworld most ambitious crossover event joke yet? because if not, have i got a treat for you
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Sharks Eat Bear posted:has anyone made a westerosworld most ambitious crossover event joke yet? because if not, have i got a treat for you Ground floor, baby
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lol https://www.elle.com/culture/movies-tv/a21073438/shannon-woodward-westworld-fan-theories-elsie/
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i can't remember what site but they did one of those with jordan peele for "get out" and most of the "theories" were just the text of the movie.
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etalian posted:lol Do they just make all the women read that stupid PMS one? I feel like they've done it about three times now.
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business hammocks posted:Do they just make all the women read that stupid PMS one? I feel like they've done it about three times now. Yea its gettin a lil weird. Or maybe its to highlight how weird it is to ask it
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Groovelord Neato posted:i can't remember what site but they did one of those with jordan peele for "get out" and most of the "theories" were just the text of the movie. Vanity Fair. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBvcngHRTFg to be fair, a couple of the theories are actually p interesting but like half of them are pointing out obvious things:
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business hammocks posted:Do they just make all the women read that stupid PMS one? I feel like they've done it about three times now. The skincare routine one as well. There were some surprisingly accurate ones in there.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:This is overtly shown in season 1. What, the train elevator? I don’t remember the train elevator.
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Pirate Radar posted:What, the train elevator? I don’t remember the train elevator. Doesn't look like anything to me.
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Living in Westworld for 11 years without being murdered by guests or hosts is a pretty amazing achievement, I wonder if anyone else managed it
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Pirate Radar posted:What, the train elevator? I don’t remember the train elevator. s1e2 when William is getting delivered to the train you can see either his cabin moving up to the train or the train car to his cabin through the door silhouette. There’s some kind of mechanism to deliver guests directly from their ready room to the train.
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TK-42-1 posted:s1e2 when William is getting delivered to the train you can see either his cabin moving up to the train or the train car to his cabin through the door silhouette. There’s some kind of mechanism to deliver guests directly from their ready room to the train. Gotcha. I’ll have to rewatch that one. Train elevator!
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LentThem posted:Living in Westworld for 11 years without being murdered by guests or hosts is a pretty amazing achievement, I wonder if anyone else managed it It's probably a bit easier when you know you should avoid the people you can't kill. Other hosts have no reason to suspect that someone will walk up to their camp and blast them.
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Has it been explained why man in Black killed Maeve’s daughter? Or what Lawrence has to do with the maze ? Why did Kissy bring up Lawrence ?
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stoops posted:Has it been explained why man in Black killed Maeve’s daughter? Or what Lawrence has to do with the maze ? Why did Kissy bring up Lawrence ? MiB had a huge monologue about it last season. iirc, after his wife killed herself, he wanted to see if his wife and daughter were right about him being a monster. He wanted to know if he could be so dark as to murder a child, even if it was a host.
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I'm looking forward to Train World where guests can experience the multitude of directions a train can move in relation to themselves.
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mustard_tiger posted:I'm looking forward to Train World where guests can experience the multitude of directions a train can move in relation to themselves. Thomas the Tank Engine must reach self-awareness through suffering
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zeal posted:Thomas the Tank Engine must reach self-awareness through suffering 
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lmaoooo someone dub the tophat guy with hopkins monologues
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bring back old gbs posted:lmaoooo someone dub the tophat guy with hopkins monologues
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"Have you ever questioned the nature of your usefulness?"
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It’s hosed up that we’ve never met the employees responsible for the train IMO
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TK-42-1 posted:the train ... the train .... the train ... the train. ... the train?
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did someone offer this dude some amontillado
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Pomp posted:did someone offer this dude some amontillado the actual story on the children's show was that engine didn't want to work in the rain because he'd just gotten a fresh coat of paint so, since he wouldn't work, the railway bricked him up in there indefinitely
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Pomp posted:did someone offer this dude some amontillado For the love of God, Pomp...
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zeal posted:the actual story on the children's show was that engine didn't want to work in the rain because he'd just gotten a fresh coat of paint Wasn't he stuck on the track inside the tunnel and they couldn't get him out?
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eyebeem posted:Wasn't he stuck on the track inside the tunnel and they couldn't get him out? No, he just didn't want to get his new paint wet. So they removed the tracks and walled him in forever.
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Topham Hat did nothing wrong.
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i hate thomas the tank engine but my mother in law has a train fetish or something and constantly buys the books and shirts and toys for our kids. its white male capitalist propaganda trash though so I throw most of it away here's an article that even talks about that new coat of paint episode what trash, the books are the same
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i still cant figure out what ake has to do with the direction the train was going?
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etalian posted:lol "where we're going we won't need lights to see" I'm liking this brave new direction for westworld. Someone call Sam Neil and tell him he can have a part alongside villainous A.Hopkins. But I repeat myself.
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ptkfvk posted:i still cant figure out what ake has to do with the direction the train was going? If the tech was being left behind in the desert with a single bullet to end his life before Ghost Nation showed up to super-murder him, Ake would be the one brandishing the knife. We now know Ake doesn't give a poo poo about murdering humans and was just playing a role while achieving galaxy-brain sentience. With no Ake, there's no danger to leaving the tech in the desert outside of the Mesa, and no reason to give him the bullet. It proves the tech was in the front of the train and it was moving forward.
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