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Wasn't the second Death Star in ROTJ literally the Death Star but bigger?
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Jun 16, 2018 02:18
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https://twitter.com/LivioRamondelli/status/1006384885668253696khwarezm posted:Wasn't the second Death Star in ROTJ literally the Death Star but bigger? it was. return of the jedi was a sign of things to come.
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Jun 16, 2018 02:19
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khwarezm posted:Wow, I didn't hear about this, what was the synopsis? https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-...s-a8398606.html "And how would that have related to the sequels? “[The next three Star Wars films] were going to get into a microbiotic world,” he continues. ”But there’s this world of creatures that operate differently than we do. I call them the Whills. And the Whills are the ones who actually control the universe. They feed off the Force.” Any Star Wars fan worth their salt will recognise the Whills. The first movie was initially part one of the ”Journal of the Whills” before being retitled Star Wars (and then retitled Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope). The Whills, present in Lucas’s earliest drafts, were an order of immortal beings who seemingly controlled everything through the Force. “Back in the day, I used to say ultimately what this means is we were just cars, vehicles for the Whills to travel around,” Lucas tells Cameron. “We’re vessels for them. And the conduct is the midi-chlorians. The midi-chlorians are the ones that communicate with the Whills. The Whills, in a general sense, they are the Force.” In other words, rather than the Force being some mystical thing people could control, the Force was a literal thing being controlled by a set of beings behind-the-scenes. All that ‘chosen one’ malarkey was purposely created by the Whills – they created certain destinies for people. "
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Jun 16, 2018 02:19
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Jim's got a few updates: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L591_bIsBLQ Highlights: Better internet means more livestreaming on twitch, and generally trying to move away from the Youtube focus They'll be getting a new office to better said streaming and improve logisticsfor skits like Commentocracy. Sterdust won a match.
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Jun 16, 2018 02:21
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Sterdust won a match. Bully, says I! BULLY!
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Jun 16, 2018 02:23
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business hammocks posted:If anyone followed the Cracked youtube channel, Maggie Mae Fish from those quasi-critical media chat shows has struck out on her own as a genuine critic: I'm convinced now that I watched a completely different Man of Steel than nearly everyone else edit:: finished the video and christ it is awful. Remember when the video called Pa Kent abusive but never followed up on that thought Lessail fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Jun 16, 2018 |
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Jun 16, 2018 02:29
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you'll find a good home with the crazies in cd.
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Jun 16, 2018 02:43
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All that video was missing was saying that Superman actively killed people during the fight with Zod At least it didn't try to argue that he killed that family
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Jun 16, 2018 02:46
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pa kent was done poorly in t he movie sorry chum.
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Jun 16, 2018 02:52
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"Son I believe you have these powers for a reason, to help people, to inspire them. Also let people die when it'd be bothersome to reveal your powers. Also I'm going to sacrifice myself to keep your powers hidden in front of you, for sure this won't gently caress you up for life." A normal dad
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Jun 16, 2018 02:59
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The video doesn’t present a conclusive argument about Pa Kent or Thanos but notices how a lot of weird poo poo just kind of filters into the presentation and character of movie dads because of all the ideas about dads that have concatenated into modern film via our weird, sick culture. Like, she’s not saying he’s an abuser within the text of the film, but that he does some things that, divorced from the language and conventions of film, are abusive because Americans have normalized elements of abuse within the stories we tell. In the world of the film he’s not bad, but viewed in absolute terms he does things that, if you saw them in your own family, you might find bad.
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Jun 16, 2018 03:00
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I mean, it’s not even any one particular view he expressed that makes Pa Kent a dodgy character. It’s that he switches back and forth between completely contradictory moral lessons in every flashback. First he’s telling Clark that he should just be an ordinary kid, then that he’s an amazing person with a great destiny ahead of him and he should accept that, then he’s right back to ‘please be normal’ again. Like, if there’d been some sort of character arc there, yeah, I could see that, but there’s no remotely clear flow or chronology to it. It’s just like Clark alternates between having two totally different dead adoptive dads depending on which flashback we’re in.
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Jun 16, 2018 03:01
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Nuebot posted:So am I. I have nothing against the people who made it, the actors or anything. I just felt it was the least necessary movie to make out of all the possible star wars films and had zero interest in seeing it. The fundamental problem with Solo is that, while a solidly-constructed film (and one I enjoyed watching), is that it had a string of explanations instead of an actual plot; Here is how Han met Chewbacca. Here's where he got his trademark DL-44 Blaster. Here is where he first met Lando. Here is the infamous Kessel Run.
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Jun 16, 2018 03:01
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sexpig by night posted:"Son I believe you have these powers for a reason, to help people, to inspire them. Also let people die when it'd be bothersome to reveal your powers. Also I'm going to sacrifice myself to keep your powers hidden in front of you, for sure this won't gently caress you up for life." Being taken in and made a pawn of US imperialism sure would've been a better life, I agree
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Jun 16, 2018 03:06
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Neddy Seagoon posted:The fundamental problem with Solo is that, while a solidly-constructed film (and one I enjoyed watching), is that it had a string of explanations instead of an actual plot; Here is how Han met Chewbacca. Here's where he got his trademark DL-44 Blaster. Here is where he first met Lando. Here is the infamous Kessel Run. Which is exactly what everyone predicted it would be. I've mentioned it before, but like as far as star wars prequels go they could do some poo poo in the old republic time line and that might be good. But if they did, I doubt they'd do anything but retread the revan storyline which wouldn't be so good.
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Jun 16, 2018 03:29
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Nuebot posted:Which is exactly what everyone predicted it would be. I've mentioned it before, but like as far as star wars prequels go they could do some poo poo in the old republic time line and that might be good. But if they did, I doubt they'd do anything but retread the revan storyline which wouldn't be so good. I think a Boba Fett movie could potentially be good, because he's pretty much a blank canvas outside of Legends canon. That said however, the only way I think it could actually be good is if they leaned hard into doing the Star Wars equivalent of an ultra-violent out-for-revenge/Dredd style film. Anything with real character depth to humanize Boba Fett is just not going to make the fans happy because of their preconceived expectations of him and it'll tank like Solo.
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Jun 16, 2018 03:34
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zack snyder is making a fountainhead movie
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Jun 16, 2018 03:39
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Oh, yeah. A solid movie about him just being a stone cold bounty hunter developing the reputation he has by the time we see him in the original trilogy could be cool. But I find it hard to imagine them making a movie with a protagonist like that in a star wars film.
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Jun 16, 2018 03:40
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Bravest of the Lamps has been threadbanned for at least two months, and yet here we are again squabbling about Pa Kent's portrayal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRifKEf0xr8
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Jun 16, 2018 03:45
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Alaois posted:zack snyder is making a fountainhead movie This is the least surprising news in the history of film.
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Jun 16, 2018 03:46
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Alaois posted:zack snyder is making a fountainhead movie Can't wait to see how he handles the legitimate rape scene! Wait, no, ignorance is bliss!
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Jun 16, 2018 03:47
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Boba Fett got developed in Star Wars The Clone Wars and it's dumb.
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Jun 16, 2018 03:55
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I don't know if I'd say "developed" since he was dropped before he did anything anyway. I mean, moviewise his arc is : Is a child Watches his father die at the hands of a jedi Is an adult bounty hunter Gets eaten by a sarlacc
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Jun 16, 2018 03:57
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Darth Walrus posted:I mean, it’s not even any one particular view he expressed that makes Pa Kent a dodgy character. It’s that he switches back and forth between completely contradictory moral lessons in every flashback. First he’s telling Clark that he should just be an ordinary kid, then that he’s an amazing person with a great destiny ahead of him and he should accept that, then he’s right back to ‘please be normal’ again. Like, if there’d been some sort of character arc there, yeah, I could see that, but there’s no remotely clear flow or chronology to it. It’s just like Clark alternates between having two totally different dead adoptive dads depending on which flashback we’re in. It is an incoherent, self-contradictory worldview, but that's kind of the point. He wants Clark to be heroic, to do all he can do, but can't handle the possibility that that might lead his child to come to harm. It's a very American viewpoint, the same set of ideas that leads cops to shoot people because they don't want to risk the physical harm that might result from nonlethal options. I'm particularly thinking of an incident in Elgin, Illinois, covered on a recent episode of Wyatt Cenac's Problem Areas, where cops shot a woman with a knife after explicitly, on body cam, discussing nonlethal options and the chief defended the officer's actions by asking something to the effect of "do you expect an officer to risk getting stabbed trying to take this woman down?" That's the sort of worldview Jonathan Kent represents, that cowardly desire for glory without risk. It's clearly presented as a flawed worldview, given the fact it leads to him not being able to answer the question "is it okay for a bus full of children to die because of your son's inaction" with any confidence, and it's one Clark has to discard in the course of becoming Superman. It's certainly not perfect, I agree with the critique Folding Ideas presented in a video that's probably very old by now that the nonchronological structure is implemented in a way that muddles character arcs, but there is something going on there.
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Jun 16, 2018 04:00
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Superman is a huge magnet for Hollywood movie creator’s projection. Just these garbage lumps of nepotism imagining that their parentage gave them any actual abilities. That their unearned power weighs them down with any responsibility.
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Jun 16, 2018 04:02
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Speaking of people being harassed off the internet, didn't that just happen to one of the Stranger Things actresses?
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Jun 16, 2018 04:22
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I think a Boba Fett movie could potentially be good, because he's pretty much a blank canvas outside of Legends canon. That said however, the only way I think it could actually be good is if they leaned hard into doing the Star Wars equivalent of an ultra-violent out-for-revenge/Dredd style film. Anything with real character depth to humanize Boba Fett is just not going to make the fans happy because of their preconceived expectations of him and it'll tank like Solo. my friends talked about how dredd type idea might be good. like fett is after a bounty on a prison station or some poo poo and it all goes to hell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv_26E-a_mA just a grimy lovely prison planet or some poo poo.
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Jun 16, 2018 04:41
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Yeah, people made fake homophobic Instagram captions of her until others assumed they were real. this is a 14 year old btw
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Jun 16, 2018 04:41
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Max Wilco posted:Speaking of people being harassed off the internet, didn't that just happen to one of the Stranger Things actresses? I feel like it's safe to assume that every nerd property actress has probably been harassed off the internet.
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Jun 16, 2018 04:45
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Lessail posted:I'm convinced now that I watched a completely different Man of Steel than nearly everyone else Pa Kent abused me by being a lovely character in a lovely movie.
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Jun 16, 2018 05:03
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I Before E posted:It is an incoherent, self-contradictory worldview, but that's kind of the point. He wants Clark to be heroic, to do all he can do, but can't handle the possibility that that might lead his child to come to harm. It's a very American viewpoint, the same set of ideas that leads cops to shoot people because they don't want to risk the physical harm that might result from nonlethal options. I'm particularly thinking of an incident in Elgin, Illinois, covered on a recent episode of Wyatt Cenac's Problem Areas, where cops shot a woman with a knife after explicitly, on body cam, discussing nonlethal options and the chief defended the officer's actions by asking something to the effect of "do you expect an officer to risk getting stabbed trying to take this woman down?" That's the sort of worldview Jonathan Kent represents, that cowardly desire for glory without risk. It's clearly presented as a flawed worldview, given the fact it leads to him not being able to answer the question "is it okay for a bus full of children to die because of your son's inaction" with any confidence, and it's one Clark has to discard in the course of becoming Superman. There's so drat much going on. That's the problem, really. You've got the bones from Nolan's treatment (the thesis of which is basically just a rehash of "what if $CHARACTER's origin is tainted by the flaws of their mentors" from his Batman movies), plus Goyer's big, sticky fingerprints of "if you do it out of order that makes it art", and lastly Snyder's massive boner for Randian symbolism, macho posturing, and the loneliness of the ubermensch. All that stuff is crammed into one movie and the end result is that none of it pulls through in a really satisfying way. The idea of a second chance for Krypton, expressed through two conflicting ideas of what that means, is probably the best developed thread in the movie, but it's still not a thread that Clark really cares about at all, and is still ultimately crowded out by all the other stuff plus mundane romance B-plot that fails to intersect with literally any other theme at all.
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Jun 16, 2018 05:18
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Today is becoming a good day for the game "Sargon talking about Muslim migrants or Moviebob talking about the Midwest".
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Jun 16, 2018 05:21
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Superman makes for a boring superhero. He's OP and should never have been allowed as a character class.
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Jun 16, 2018 05:23
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Superman makes for a boring superhero. He's OP and should never have been allowed as a character class. What if he we tell him to not be a hero and to destroy a whole town. R U interested yet.
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Jun 16, 2018 05:34
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CharlestheHammer posted:What if he we tell him to not be a hero and to destroy a whole town. Who is/are the protagonist/s now, then?
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Jun 16, 2018 05:37
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Who is/are the protagonist/s now, then? Zod? gently caress if I know
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Jun 16, 2018 05:40
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CharlestheHammer posted:Zod? gently caress if I know I mean, your protagonists, you want them to be some kind of a reasonably balanced party, they'll eventually get really good but they have to feel like they have something at stake. Like you need your fighter, your healer, you spellcaster, and your devious character, at a bare minimum.
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Jun 16, 2018 05:41
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I think a Boba Fett movie could potentially be good, because he's pretty much a blank canvas outside of Legends canon. That said however, the only way I think it could actually be good is if they leaned hard into doing the Star Wars equivalent of an ultra-violent out-for-revenge/Dredd style film. Anything with real character depth to humanize Boba Fett is just not going to make the fans happy because of their preconceived expectations of him and it'll tank like Solo.
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Jun 16, 2018 05:49
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Superman makes for a boring superhero. He's OP and should never have been allowed as a character class. The best incarnation of superman is still the one in the DCAU where he was, by far, the weakest and even then every other fight they had to just be like "Oh no, MAGIC" and have him get hurt so he couldn't fight.
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DCAU understands character dynamics incredibly well and the scene where Supes finally cuts lose and lays the beatdown on Darkseid while causing minimal damage was great. Sure he threw him through multiple buildings but the episode made it clear they'd prepared for Darkseid and they were empty.
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