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Dapper_Swindler posted:my friends talked about how dredd type idea might be good. like fett is after a bounty on a prison station or some poo poo and it all goes to hell. https://twitter.com/FredCStresing/status/1000065690290806785
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Superman makes for a boring superhero. He's OP and should never have been allowed as a character class. Superman is actually a very good hero because he dispenses with the obvious bullshit that anything in comic books has actual tension or stakes so he might as well have world ending powers since he'll end up in basically the same place as 'more realistic' Spiderman or Batman anyway. Instead he can be a refreshing emblem of plain decency in a hostile world and always works best in that setting of being a chill guy who happens to be able to bench-press Jupiter. Read All-star Superman to see the best aspects of the character or even What's So Funny About Truth, Justice & the American Way? since it was funny to see Superman respond to usual 'You're so boring and safe!' complaint by loving with the guys complaining to the point of pants making GBS threads horror and then going 'Ha, psyche, I'm actually still a boring boy in blue and it's clearly much better off that way'. Also echoing DCAU Superman, they get the character down to pat and really test him and his convictions in some great episodes, especially the aforementioned ones with Darkseid but also their version of 'For the man who has everything'. The best superman episode was 'Hereafter' in Justice League which you should just watch right now. khwarezm fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Jun 16, 2018 |
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Jun 16, 2018 06:21
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khwarezm posted:Read All-star Superman quote:The best superman episode was 'Hereafter' in Justice League which you should just watch right now.
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Jun 16, 2018 06:43
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Absurd Alhazred posted:no Sorry about the case of bad taste. It seems terminal.
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The Mxyzptlk episodes are pretty funny too.khwarezm posted:The best superman episode was 'Hereafter' in Justice League which you should just watch right now. Yeah that episode loving rules.
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Jun 16, 2018 06:48
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Absurd Alhazred posted:no You don't have to read or watch anything Superman if you don't want to, but there's one comic from really early on that has Clark taking Lois to a Superman movie and trying to distract her so she misses the part of the movie where Superman reveals his secret identity that's really fun, wish I could remember the title.
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Jun 16, 2018 06:52
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I Before E posted:You don't have to read or watch anything Superman if you don't want to, but there's one comic from really early on that has Clark taking Lois to a Superman movie and trying to distract her so she misses the part of the movie where Superman reveals his secret identity that's really fun, wish I could remember the title. Makes me think of superdickery, which is a blogsite dedicated to showing off Superman comic covers where he is being an rear end in a top hat to others.
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Jun 16, 2018 06:55
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I Before E posted:You don't have to read or watch anything Superman if you don't want to, but there's one comic from really early on that has Clark taking Lois to a Superman movie and trying to distract her so she misses the part of the movie where Superman reveals his secret identity that's really fun, wish I could remember the title. Thank you for respecting my choices. Now to watch yet another video of a loud dude playing a trolly Super Mario Maker level. You know, culture. 
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lobster22221 posted:Makes me think of superdickery, which is a blogsite dedicated to showing off Superman comic covers where he is being an rear end in a top hat to others. It's partly that, but it's much less in the Silver Age "Superman, to teach Lois a lesson or something, engineered a wacky scheme" tradition most of those covers come from than a sitcom-y "Superman didn't know this movie was going to be about him, much less have his secret identity revealed on screen, so now he has to come up with an idea on the fly", which imo is much more fun.
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lobster22221 posted:Makes me think of superdickery, which is a blogsite dedicated to showing off Superman comic covers where he is being an rear end in a top hat to others. Either that, or Jimmy Olsen getting married to an ape for the sixth time.
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The animated movie of All Star Superman is pretty solid and has the bonus of Superman being voiced by Jamie Denton and not Stephen Baldwin.
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If it's not Tim Daly or the Justice League gut he's not superman to my ears
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It's not really All Star Superman if you're not intensely studying every bizarre detail of the way Frank Quitely has decided faces should be, and no movie can really capture that.
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khwarezm posted:Superman is actually a very good hero because he dispenses with the obvious bullshit that anything in comic books has actual tension or stakes so he might as well have world ending powers since he'll end up in basically the same place as 'more realistic' Spiderman or Batman anyway. Instead he can be a refreshing emblem of plain decency in a hostile world and always works best in that setting of being a chill guy who happens to be able to bench-press Jupiter. The episode where he fights Captain Marvel after a long-con of Luthor being a dick and doing everything he could to provoke superman was great, too.
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I Before E posted:It's not really All Star Superman if you're not intensely studying every bizarre detail of the way Frank Quitely has decided faces should be, and no movie can really capture that. Fair.
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Also I'm pretty sure the movie cuts the best line.
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Nuebot posted:The episode where he fights Captain Marvel after a long-con of Luthor being a dick and doing everything he could to provoke superman was great, too. The whole Cadmus arc in JLU was fantastic start to finish, it really felt like the writers got what Superman was supposed to be and what kind of issue powers on that level would cause. They even got you to love The Question, a nobody D List character. Too bad nothing since The Dark Knight Returns has been any good, with the Killing Joke being one of the worst things I think they've ever put out.
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Their DC animated films are so scattershot. You have great stuff like Under the Red Hood next to trash like Killing Joke, wacky stuff like Batman: Ninja and pandering crap like the TAS "inspired" Harley Quinn movie. But it does have an Adam West animated feature which is objectively the best. The more I see the more I'm convinced that Paul Dini is the true strength behind the DCAU and Bruce Timm is just a pervert whose fetishes were reined in by broadcast standards. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 07:32 on Jun 16, 2018 |
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Asuron posted:The whole Cadmus arc in JLU was fantastic start to finish, it really felt like the writers got what Superman was supposed to be and what kind of issue powers on that level would cause. They even got you to love The Question, a nobody D List character. It was an arc about how terrifying superheroes can be if they are left unchecked in a kids cartoon. Also avoided being grim and dull
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I Before E posted:Also I'm pretty sure the movie cuts the best line. It cuts "You're much stronger than you think you are?"
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Arcsquad12 posted:Their DC animated films are so scattershot. You have great stuff like Under the Red Hood next to trash like Killing Joke, wacky stuff like Batman: Ninja and pandering crap like the TAS "inspired" Harley Quinn movie. If everything he's done involving Zatanna is any indication Dini is just as extra about his horny as Timm.
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DoubleCakes posted:It cuts "You're much stronger than you think you are?" That's a good one too, but I was thinking of "who was J. Lo?"
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I Before E posted:If everything he's done involving Zatanna is any indication Dini is just as extra about his horny as Timm. Perhaps, but the way Harley Quinn has been portrayed in just about everything after Return of The Joker makes me cringe. She's done pretty well in the Injustice games, but I prefer the crazy lady whose legitimately funny over "sexy clown slut"
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Arcsquad12 posted:Their DC animated films are so scattershot. You have great stuff like Under the Red Hood next to trash like Killing Joke, wacky stuff like Batman: Ninja and pandering crap like the TAS "inspired" Harley Quinn movie. I would say it was Dwayne McDuffie who pulled it together for JLU. His presence elevated the material. CharlestheHammer posted:It was an arc about how terrifying superheroes can be if they are left unchecked in a kids cartoon. Exactly right. I have no idea why DC is so obsessed with being "grim" in all their latest takes, because they clearly do not know what to do with that type of tone for their material. Teenage melodrama and constant gory violence does not make what they write any good, it just serves to undermine the material they have. Not to mention all the creepy sex scenes they write. I honestly cannot imagine a more cringeworthy scene than the sex scene they put in the Harley Quinn movie, although the one between Batgirl and Batman in the Killing Joke comes pretty close. Asuron fucked around with this message at 07:47 on Jun 16, 2018 |
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Asuron posted:although the one between Batgirl and Barbara in the Killing Joke comes pretty close. That takes the phrase "go gently caress yourself" to a whole new level.
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DC fans have got a very selective memory. Bennett said it best in his recent Teen Titans review: Teen Titans fans don't actually want the anime style TT back, they want Batman Beyond. The old Titans tv show was 80% anime inspired cringe from the glut of awful mid 2000s shows brought stateside and 20% Deathstroke propped up by Ron Perlman's performance. Why haven't we gotten a new Batman Beyond movie or show at this point is beyond(hah) me.
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Arcsquad12 posted:DC fans have got a very selective memory. Bennett said it best in his recent Teen Titans review: Teen Titans fans don't actually want the anime style TT back, they want Batman Beyond. The old Titans tv show was 80% anime inspired cringe from the glut of awful mid 2000s shows brought stateside and 20% Deathstroke propped up by Ron Perlman's performance. What? Why would they want a completely different show that was on average worse.
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CharlestheHammer posted:What? VolticSurge posted:Sorry about the case of bad taste. It seems terminal.
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I like Batman Beyond. But it was an up and down journey. Which the best material wasn’t even in the show proper I think that the toxicity of the TT fans have caused people to be a bit revisionist CharlestheHammer fucked around with this message at 07:54 on Jun 16, 2018 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:Their DC animated films are so scattershot. You have great stuff like Under the Red Hood next to trash like Killing Joke, wacky stuff like Batman: Ninja and pandering crap like the TAS "inspired" Harley Quinn movie. The true true strength in the DCAU was Dwayne McDuffie who was heavily involved in some of the best stuff in Justice League (including Hereafter and the whole Cadmus arc) after Timm and Dini had taken a much less involved role in the series, he also was the creator of Static Shock, and then he died  CharlestheHammer posted:I like Batman Beyond. Yeah honestly BB is super erratic in quality (and I think BTAS was even more erratic, fight me people who haven't watched the show in years but have strong nostalgic attachments). It's just that when BB was good, it was real good and the concept of cyberpunk batman with Batman being a cocky teen being trained by a cranky old Bruce Wayne who's body has forced him to take on the Oracle role turned out to be a masterstroke even if it wasn't fully realized. khwarezm fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Jun 16, 2018 |
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I can't remember if it was ever brought up in this thread or only several times in BSS and my mind is just cross-pollinating them but I can't let this mention of Dwayne McDuffie go by without taking the chance to bring up Teenage Negro Ninja Thrashers
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Arcsquad12 posted:Perhaps, but the way Harley Quinn has been portrayed in just about everything after Return of The Joker makes me cringe. She's done pretty well in the Injustice games, but I prefer the crazy lady whose legitimately funny over "sexy clown slut" Same here. Also turn Poison Ivy into a tree or something. Whatever. Just give her and Wonder Woman pants or shorts at the least.
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Also, Batman Beyond had a superb aesthetic that really worked well with what they could easily do in TV animation at the time. Really great use of bold, simple colours and designs.
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lobster22221 posted:https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-...s-a8398606.html "Why Stop Motion is Underrated". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOYt7rDT1N4
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Boba Fett is being directed by James Mangold and everyone's saying "Yeah, do Logan but for Star Wars" but I keep thinking, "No, do 3:10 to Yuma but for Star Wars with Boba Fett as the Russell Crowe character". Another rumour is that there will be an Obi-Wan movie with Ewan McGregor and Stephen Daldry will direct, so there had better be singing and dancing and Obi-Wan had better befriend a kid who works on a moisture farm but wants to do ballet.
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I'm very confused by his half-second clip of A Town Called Panic in a discussion about great stop-motion films. It shows he knows about the film, but its absence in the rest of the piece implies a criticality or self-consciousness to some degree about its visual style because it doesn't feature anywhere else in the several minutes dedicated to clips from the same half a dozen films. He flips quickly from praising stop-motion as the production of many artists to celebrating it as the remaining refuge of the film auteur without seeing any contradiction, and without acknowledging that this is also not unique to stop-motion. Both CGI and real-world films take artists of all kinds to assemble, and they do so under direction of a film-maker with a certain vision. Also in his discussion about the timelessness of stop-motion there's like, nothing, nothing he shows that has been made before his childhood. There's no Harryhausen, there's no Gilliam, there's no Zeman whom they - among Tim Burton and Wes Anderson - cite as an influence. And I realise this is because primarily the overall talk is about stop-motion films rather than stop motion itself, but those are historically and visually relevant clips to show if you're trying to establish the timelessness of stop motion (seriously, if you haven't watched anything by Zeman they are amazing) over CGI. Actually, Nightmare Before Christmas was made in 1993, so that might count, but that itself is on the rear end-end of a half-century of stop-motion films that could be shown over talking up the timelessness of a 10 year old film.
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the all star superman movie did luthor's epiphany totally wrong. in the comic he breaks down when he realizes how superman sees the world in the movie he just kinda explains it. it's the most important scene and they totally botch it.
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Arcsquad12 posted:DC fans have got a very selective memory. Bennett said it best in his recent Teen Titans review: Teen Titans fans don't actually want the anime style TT back, they want Batman Beyond. The old Titans tv show was 80% anime inspired cringe from the glut of awful mid 2000s shows brought stateside and 20% Deathstroke propped up by Ron Perlman's performance. Maybe people just have different opinions from you?
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Augus posted:I recently watched a bunch of Teen Titans and it was still good. Well they describe it as anime nonsense so I doubt they have watched the show at all. It’s art style is anime like but it’s still a very western cartoon in content
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The only good Superman was Red Son and unfortunately the ending was bad. Otherwise he's just a terminal case of the borings. Though I guess Injustice did fine too, with him and a number of other heroes going all the way down the totalitarian bastard path. Plus it was funny to have confirmation that of course Hal Jordan would turn into a bootlicker for the regime. Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Jun 16, 2018 |
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