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GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011

KakerMix posted:

Hey: Steam offers the ability to return a game and there is no downside at all for someone to use this feature. It's a nice and cool thing and you should appreciate it exists for everyone else even if you don't use it yourself. You want to be more pro-consumer, not less.
If someone wants to return it for any reason then that's OK. They aren't on trial.

I couldn't give a gently caress about other consumers and their rights, what the refund system actually did for me is kill flash sales.

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communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

GrossMurpel posted:

I couldn't give a gently caress about other consumers and their rights, what the refund system actually did for me is kill flash sales.

:chloe:

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


GrossMurpel posted:

I couldn't give a gently caress about other consumers and their rights, what the refund system actually did for me is kill flash sales.

Is there a reason you think refunds killed flash sales?

VirtualStranger
Aug 20, 2012

:lol:

ufarn posted:

The nudity's also not going to be a rare thing in general by the sound of it.

One of the people who saw the demo said that the protagonist is completely nude during the opening character creation screen.

TEENAGE WITCH
Jul 20, 2008

NAH LAD

communism bitch posted:

They already confirmed that you'll be able to see your own body in fist person, so yeah I'm absolutely running around with my pecker out and flopping around 24/7

smh, this is the future bioware could have had

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

GrossMurpel posted:

I couldn't give a gently caress about other consumers and their rights, what the refund system actually did for me is kill flash sales.

Sininu
Jan 8, 2014

Andrast posted:

Is there a reason you think refunds killed flash sales?

People are impatient and didn't wait for last day of the sale. Thus flash sales would mean tons of refunds when games they bought got even cheaper.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Sininu posted:

People are impatient and didn't wait for last day of the sale. Thus flash sales would mean tons of refunds when games they bought got even cheaper.

So basically Valve killed flash sales because they didn't want customers to make informed decisions

Andrast fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Jun 16, 2018

Traveller
Jan 6, 2012

WHIM AND FOPPERY

So I guess this means Mr. Studd/Midnight Lady implants will be available.

Slugnoid
Jun 23, 2006

Nap Ghost
i really, really hope this game manages to include

(witcher 3 spoiler below)

a cameo by Ciri - since she mentions she and the Avallach hid from the wild hunt for 6 months in what's clearly supposed to be the Cyberpunk 2077 universe.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

I hope it doesn't

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



Dandywalken posted:

I hope it doesn't

:same:

Because I'm gonna build them in the character creator and role-play

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

Royalty is a continuous cutting motion


My plan is to give V the most impractical hair on earth. We're talking a person who single-handedly keeps the hairspray industry alive.

Senjuro
Aug 19, 2006
Any word on if there's iron sights when shooting? God I hope not.

Qmass
Jun 3, 2003

Dapper_Swindler posted:

on cyberpunk. everything about the previews gives me a Dredd vibe and if can get that experience, i am in.
man gently caress yeah. Im in the middle of rewatching dredd because the trailer got me thinking about it again. Cool movie, hope they steal all the good poo poo from it :D

Senjuro posted:

Any word on if there's iron sights when shooting? God I hope not.
just unlock the reduced hip-fire spread talent and quit ya bitching

Qmass fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Jun 16, 2018

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



Lol if you don't have have your gun loaded with smart bullets that you aim via AR eye-tracking

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

Lol if you don't have have your gun loaded with smart bullets that you aim via AR eye-tracking

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Lol if you don't use this gun all the time and nothing else:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyhR1THflUU

VoLaTiLe
Oct 21, 2010

He's Behind you
I'm going to make V a balding, middle aged, white man with a beer belly. Then have max stat points in cool :v:

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Senjuro posted:

Any word on if there's iron sights when shooting? God I hope not.

Iron sights own and I hope there are cyber irons :getin:

ughhhh
Oct 17, 2012

VoLaTiLe posted:

I'm going to make V a balding, middle aged, white man with a beer belly. Then have max stat points in cool :v:

Knowing cdpr, your dialogue is gonna be all puns and dad jokes


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQTwtUn07JA

Senjuro
Aug 19, 2006

KakerMix posted:

Iron sights own and I hope there are cyber irons :getin:

Play Doom 2016 and try to imagine having to slow down and restrict your field of view every time you fire. gently caress iron sights, they're nothing but a hindrance.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Qmass posted:

man gently caress yeah. Im in the middle of rewatching dredd because the trailer got me thinking about it again. Cool movie, hope they steal all the good poo poo from it :D
just unlock the reduced hip-fire spread talent and quit ya bitching

same, i just want it to be terrible and grimdark with flickers of hope.

WrightOfWay
Jul 24, 2010


Senjuro posted:

Play Doom 2016 and try to imagine having to slow down and restrict your field of view every time you fire. gently caress iron sights, they're nothing but a hindrance.

I guarantee that Cyberpunk will be slower paced than Doom.

Senjuro
Aug 19, 2006

WrightOfWay posted:

I guarantee that Cyberpunk will be slower paced than Doom.

So is Half Life. Would iron sight aiming have made it better? Why would I want to block half the screen and look through a tiny hole instead of having a clear picture of what's going on? It's not Arma, it's not even an FPS as they claim. There's no reason to prioritize realism over fun here.

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

Senjuro posted:

So is Half Life. Would iron sight aiming have made it better? Why would I want to block half the screen and look through a tiny hole instead of having a clear picture of what's going on? It's not Arma, it's not even an FPS as they claim. There's no reason to prioritize realism over fun here.

This is a world with auto-aiming guns and where cyber-clown gangs roam the streets. I wouldn't worry about them sticking too hard to realistic.

Sunning
Sep 14, 2011
Nintendo Guru

GrossMurpel posted:

I couldn't give a gently caress about other consumers and their rights, what the refund system actually did for me is kill flash sales.

Valve removed flash sales in 2015 because it was leading to lower overall sales. Consumers bought less games if they missed a daily or if they felt that a game they were interested in wasn't at its lowest price.

Infinity Gaia
Feb 27, 2011

a storm is coming...

I find it a lot easier to aim with iron-sights so I hope they have them, personally.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


Just do the Wolfenstein thing and include iron sights but make hip fire accurate enough that it's just a matter of preference.

NmareBfly
Jul 16, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


Once you smartlink your gun you won't need iron sights. I'm fine with them being something you can buy-pass.

Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

by sebmojo
I want to make a dude with crazy colored spiked hair who wears a leather jacket with a radioactive symbol on the back. Basically I want to be a henchman from Streets of Rage

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Wicked Them Beats posted:

This is a world with auto-aiming guns and where cyber-clown gangs roam the streets. I wouldn't worry about them sticking too hard to realistic.

*works self into a loving froth about iron sights* 2/3rds of my screen real estate!!!!!!!

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Smart linking by the sound of it in the sourcebook pretty much creates a digital crosshair that only you can see when you ready your linked gun. So it'd make perfect sense really.

Unholster the gun, it syncs with the smart link, gg. By the sound of it they're making it an autotargetting option for less FPS-friendly players which is still really cool.

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

Sunning posted:

Valve removed flash sales in 2015 because it was leading to lower overall sales. Consumers bought less games if they missed a daily or if they felt that a game they were interested in wasn't at its lowest price.

No, I'm pretty sure it was the consumer's fault for forcing the poor, beleaguered multi-billion dollar corporate interest to give refunds like every other store in existence.

Lt. Lizard
Apr 28, 2013

Dandywalken posted:

Smart linking by the sound of it in the sourcebook pretty much creates a digital crosshair that only you can see when you ready your linked gun. So it'd make perfect sense really.

Unholster the gun, it syncs with the smart link, gg. By the sound of it they're making it an autotargetting option for less FPS-friendly players which is still really cool.

Considering all the talk from demo about how various UI elements are actually cyber-ware upgrades you can/have to buy and install, I wonder if that actually wont be a gameplay element:

poor, filthy, unaugmented peasant: You need to crouch and use iron sights if you want to actually hit something.

glorious, shiny, smart linked cybergod: Your hip-fire will always have same accuracy as if you used iron sights, no matter if you are standing, crouching, sprinting around or jumping from wall.

Ligament
Jun 12, 2018
Biscuit Hider
im hoping the game will allow me to go full psychopath transhumanist and be a naked genderless robot killing machine that sometimes wears a trenchcoat and just a trenchcoat for the sake of social decorum

hell ill be a god drat walking tank if the game lets me

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
If it lets you put your brain into a gemini (from memory) body you will be better than a tank.

NmareBfly
Jul 16, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


Nah I want to put my brain in that one purpose built fireman body.

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy
I'm going to be Johnny Sasaki so help me god

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DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Ligament posted:

im hoping the game will allow me to go full psychopath transhumanist and be a naked genderless robot killing machine that sometimes wears a trenchcoat and just a trenchcoat for the sake of social decorum

hell ill be a god drat walking tank if the game lets me

Mount your brain in a full body chassis without a realistic dermal layer.

I forget which source book that was in but CP2020 has exactly that. There was a full body cyborg for fire fighting too, among other things. That one was so inhuman because of the specialist integrated equipment that the user had their brain housing swapped to more human norm cyborg bodies while off duty in order to retain some sanity.

All that being said if you're walking around like an inhuman tank carrying a .50 HMG, an RPG and two neon katanas don't expect anyone to treat you as anything but a cyberpsycho who hasn't snapped yet. In the paper and pen game this would basically mean cops wouldn't even approach you if they saw you do something, they'd call in C-SWAT immediately.

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