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MrFlibble posted:https://twitter.com/Dataracer117/status/996486979578662912 Rian Johnson is my hero.
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AlternateAccount posted:Episode IX should have at least had a lengthy treatment with all major plot beats defined thoroughly before shooting began on Episode VII. They're clearly making this poo poo up as they go along to a degree even Lucas could only imagine, and it shows. Making poo poo up as they go along is exactly how serialized tv/movie writing works, though. CelticPredator posted:Rian Johnson is my hero. He called in the writer/director of Primer to help with some concepts for Looper. That should tell you something about the people he looks up to. Primer, for people who don't know it, is an early 00's time travel film that you almost need a diagram for to follow the plot. It's a pretty rad movie but super low budget with not the greatest acting.  ]I don't think Johnson is polarizing to be polarizing, like von Trier, but he certainly seems to execute what he thinks the vision for the film should be. tadashi fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Jun 14, 2018 |
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Jun 14, 2018 19:44
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Give me Von Trier Star Wars
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Jun 14, 2018 20:05
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tadashi posted:Making poo poo up as they go along is exactly how serialized tv/movie writing works, though. Primer is loving great.
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Jun 14, 2018 20:11
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Blast Fantasto posted:Give me Von Trier Star Wars The true fate of Chewbacca finally realised on screen: 
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Jun 14, 2018 20:23
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AlternateAccount posted:Episode IX should have at least had a lengthy treatment with all major plot beats defined thoroughly before shooting began on Episode VII. No it shouldn't have.
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Jun 14, 2018 20:40
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For maximum nerd rage I hope Episode IX takes place like fifteen years after Last Jedi but still brings back Benicio Del Toro's character.
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Jun 14, 2018 20:47
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No joke, I would love it if they chose to emulate the prequels with a time-skip like that
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Jun 14, 2018 20:51
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AlternateAccount posted:Or maybe for your big predictable trilogy, you write all the poo poo out before you start filming the first one. Episode IX should have at least had a lengthy treatment with all major plot beats defined thoroughly before shooting began on Episode VII. So what happens when they do all that work and Carrie Fisher still dies before shooting IX?
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Jun 14, 2018 21:20
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She was died of broken heart.
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Jun 14, 2018 21:27
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Episode IX should be Almost Famous in space, focusing on the Max Rebo Band trying to tour and occasionally running into the main characters from the previous movies like they're Forest Gump.
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Jun 14, 2018 21:30
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Wheat Loaf posted:Episode IX should be Almost Famous in space, focusing on the Max Rebo Band trying to tour and occasionally running into the main characters from the previous movies like they're Forest Gump. It will be the first R rated Star Wars film due all the required conversation about wailing jizz everywhere.
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Jun 14, 2018 22:11
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I don't think they needed even an outline really, but honestly it's weird af to have a trilogy which ostensibly has some kind of unified narrative directed by three separate dudes working mostly independently.
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Jun 14, 2018 22:34
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I'm looking forward to the first, completely divorced of the originals, Star Wars. No cameos, no callbacks. How many years do you think it will be? 10? 20? More? Never?
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remusclaw posted:I'm looking forward to the first, completely divorced of the originals, Star Wars. No cameos, no callbacks. How many years do you think it will be? 10? 20? More? Never? Double never.
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Jun 14, 2018 22:42
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OctoberCountry posted:So what happens when they do all that work and Carrie Fisher still dies before shooting IX? There’s a difference between rerouting to the same destination and just driving around toward nowhere in particular while constantly changing drivers.
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Jun 14, 2018 22:44
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Wheat Loaf posted:The true fate of Chewbacca finally realised on screen: I appreciate this
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Jun 14, 2018 23:56
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tadashi posted:He called in the writer/director of Primer to help with some concepts for Looper. That should tell you something about the people he looks up to. Apparently he didn't listen to him then. Primer may be confusing as all hell but actually has a neat plot and concept and follows its own consistent logic. On the other hand Looper is an uninteresting boilerplate thriller that repeatedly contradicts its own so-called "Logic" so often it might as well be a game of Calvin-ball.
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Jun 15, 2018 09:43
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Good old Rian "Adolf "Rian Johnson" Hitler" Johnson.
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Jun 15, 2018 09:57
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AlternateAccount posted:Or maybe for your big predictable trilogy, you write all the poo poo out before you start filming the first one. Episode IX should have at least had a lengthy treatment with all major plot beats defined thoroughly before shooting began on Episode VII. They're clearly making this poo poo up as they go along to a degree even Lucas could only imagine, and it shows. I was, mistakenly, under the impression that they did this.
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Jun 17, 2018 02:48
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spacetoaster posted:I was, mistakenly, under the impression that they did this. The rumor going around is that they did, and it got deep sixed in favor of The Last Jedi. Which, if true, would be more embarrassing than just not having a plan.
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Jun 17, 2018 03:27
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JJ had an idea of where he wanted it to, then Rian had an idea of where he wanted it to go, all the while Trevorrow had an idea where he wanted it to go. It was all over the place.
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Jun 17, 2018 06:33
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Rian claims that he was given no notes on Snoke, Rey's parents, overall story/plot, etc. Simon Pegg has claimed that Abrams absolutely had plans for some of those. You can see some of this evidence in TFA itself from how Rey is talked about and how scenes cut around her heritage and how Snoke uses, of all things, Darth Plagius' theme in his own theme. No one really knows and I doubt Disney will ever let the truth out.
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Jun 17, 2018 07:47
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I go with the theory that Rion Johnson is Kennedy’s secret love child since he got a free hand in going his way without being fired in the middle of production, plus a sweet trilogy deal before TLJ was opened.
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Jun 17, 2018 10:12
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Rian Johnson owns and directed the two best Breaking Bad episodes of the entire run.
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Jun 17, 2018 10:39
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CelticPredator posted:Rian Johnson owns and directed the two best Breaking Bad episodes of the entire run. Damned by faint praise.
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Jun 17, 2018 11:04
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It's sort of amusing that the Disney era movie that Star Wars fans seem to dislike the most seems to be the one that Disney/Lucasfilm interfered with the least.
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Jun 17, 2018 11:12
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Star Wars fans want someone to step in and tell filmmakers no. They don’t like when ideas go unchecked.
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Jun 17, 2018 12:46
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Quite the jump to conclusions to fit your narrative.
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Jun 17, 2018 14:34
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The Plagueis/Snoke thing is a weird complaint because if you really need and want Snoke to be Plagueis there's nothing in there to say he isn't. It just doesn't matter at all to the story
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Jun 17, 2018 20:03
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Vintersorg posted:Quite the jump to conclusions to fit your narrative. Star Wars fans are trash, film at 11.
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Jun 17, 2018 20:15
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Damned by faint praise. Breaking Bad is suddenly terrible, I see.
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Jun 17, 2018 23:23
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Hodgepodge posted:Breaking Bad is suddenly terrible, I see. It's well executed trash and exploitative television, but it's still trashy and exploitative.
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Jun 17, 2018 23:41
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KVeezy3 posted:It's well executed trash and exploitative television, but it's still trashy and exploitative. Frankly, the new Star Wars could stand to be a bit more exploitative and trashy.
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Jun 17, 2018 23:45
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Wheat Loaf posted:It's sort of amusing that the Disney era movie that Star Wars fans seem to dislike the most seems to be the one that Disney/Lucasfilm interfered with the least. That's not as inconsistent as it may initially seem, since the film that receives the least interference is naturally going to be the one that most closely matches whatever it is Disney wants these movies to be.
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I'm rewatching TFA, and how does the Starkiller Base laser work? From one origin it fires once, and an energy beam can split into 5 perfectly aimed splinter beams? I also haven't watched this in a longtime, its jarring just how different this movie is from TLJ in tone and pacing. Aside from that, I found Abrams mystery boxes (or whatever they're called) aggravating to a degree when the movie was new. It's even more grating now feeling like we know there is no payoff to hardly any of it. E: I likewise find it interesting that with the litany of "X killed Star Wars" videos on YouTube, particularly the ones bitching about humor, must have just totally ignored TFA. I forgot how joke-y it was. Poe even talks poo poo to Kylo at the very beginning similarly to making fun of Hux in TLJ. So that was actually consistent with the Poe character. Doronin fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Jun 18, 2018 |
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Jun 18, 2018 01:51
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KVeezy3 posted:It's well executed trash and exploitative television, but it's still trashy and exploitative. Yeah and?
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CelticPredator posted:Star Wars fans are trash, film at 11. I agree. I hope they keep making content that triggers them until they mass suicide or something. It’s not what they want but it’s what they deserve.
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Jun 18, 2018 11:28
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Maybe reddit nerds will stop hating on the idea of trigger warnings if they get catered to. Triggers: sexual assault, war and bloodshed, JJ Abrams sci fi reboots
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spacetoaster posted:I was, mistakenly, under the impression that they did this. It's not unreasonable to assume that your $4bn purchase and related trilogy of films that can reasonably be expected to pull that much in box office receipts alone would be governed by some sort of overarching well-defined and well thought out "Plan". chiasaur11 posted:The rumor going around is that they did, and it got deep sixed in favor of The Last Jedi. Which, if true, would be more embarrassing than just not having a plan. So you're telling me DISNEY of all companies allowed a plan for their most lucrative franchise to be derailed by... whom? for what? against what opposition?? CelticPredator posted:JJ had an idea of where he wanted it to go... This would be the first time in his human centipede of a career where this was a true statement.
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