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Cojawfee posted:Season 2 episode 8. When Ake walks into Sweetwater, they reuse old footage not realizing there is a camera crew doing a shot of following Maeve. Or maybe they did realise and this is all part of the storyline, which is also somehow connected to trains.
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Durzel posted:My memory is hazy but didn't Dolores start the awakening of Maeve by whispering the whole "these violent delights have violent ends" trigger sentence to her outside the Pasadena? Maeve was awoken (or at least beginning the process) by the MiB when he attacked her and her daughter. She started flipping out and they basically rewrote her and made her the madam to fix her and she lost the memory of that. Dolores spread the violent ends thing to her, which woke her again/gave her memory back. Darko fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Jun 21, 2018 |
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Jun 21, 2018 15:09
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TK-42-1 posted:Exactly. If they had actually made first person shots or whatever then countless idiots would have been hurr durr who is she watching???? It would be Dolores POV view of getting raped.
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Darko posted:Maeve was awoken (or at least beginning the process) by the MiB when he attacked her and her daughter. She started flipping out and they basically rewrote her and made her the madam to fix her and she lost the memory of that. Dolores spread the violent ends thing to her, which woke her again/gave her memory back. It wasn’t just Delores, it was also the STAPH infection causing her pain in the exact same spot the MIB stabbed her. Given what we know now I wouldn’t be surprised if Ford made Bernard infect her in the area so that the pain would start triggering her repressed memories.
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Dolores Violent Delightsing her didn't wake Maeve up, I don't think, or else how do we explain all the drawings hidden in her room? Too many to have happened after that, imho. Maeve had been remembering for a while, even before S2 confirmed it for us. My theory is violent delights spread Ford's little narratives for each awaking host. It set Dolores on her path to find the maze/become Wyatt and set Maeve on her path to escape by train. Or it's something the show wanted to be more directly connected to awareness in the pilot and changed during the break in S1's production to be something else/less. 
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I ain't playing no goddamn Westworld game that isn't some sort of Rollercoaster Tycoon/Sims ripoff.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I ain't playing no goddamn Westworld game that isn't some sort of
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tino posted:It would be Dolores POV view of getting raped. Yeah, why would it be William's POV? Though it'd be funny if it turned out the hats also had cameras all this time. Huge, noisy ones.
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davidspackage posted:Yeah, why would it be William's POV? Though it'd be funny if it turned out the hats also had cameras all this time. Huge, noisy ones. Simpsons did it 
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Cojawfee posted:Simpsons did it This thread: 
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tino posted:It would be Dolores POV view of getting raped. All this time later and I'm still not sold MiB raped Dolores back in the barn. A lot pointed in the first season to him having actually been there to scalp her instead. I mean .. uh.. I guess that's.. better? It's less that I don't think he'd be capable of it and more that he was on a very specific waste-no-time quest at the time and she started 'waking up' afterward.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:It's a common TV shortcut, use edited footage instead of re-shooting the scenes in a manner that simulates some in-world camera. Sadly it's one of those shortcuts that's so well known that I think even the common viewer notices and finds it annoying. That said in a couple of those shots you could argue it's a host POV; like him dragging her to the barn could have been from Teddy's camera. ED: Actually this just hit me with a huge, huge plot hole. Or on purpose: The scene of him dragging her to the barn and such happened before the first episode. Oh poo poo. Is William on a loop after all?
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I feel like there is some loop anyway, whenever his daughter starts quizing him it feels like a fidelity check.
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Blazing Ownager posted:That said in a couple of those shots you could argue it's a host POV; like him dragging her to the barn could have been from Teddy's camera. Blazing Ownager posted:The scene of him dragging her to the barn and such happened before the first episode.
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Hey speaking of Teddy "Flood"... ...if he just blew his brains out, how does his corpse end up floatin' in the giant lake by the end of the two week timeframe with everyone else? Bernard says he killed them "all" -- did he mean he killed all of them, minus Teddy, who was already dead but just sorta got dragged along? Ala Weekend at edit: another idea -- when William talks to Ford in the flashback bar scene, Ford says, "Ohh... I just came to... pay my respects." Is this a hint that William died long ago? DirtyRobot fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Jun 21, 2018 |
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DirtyRobot posted:...if he just blew his brains out, how does his corpse end up floatin' in the giant lake by the end of the two week timeframe with everyone else? Bernard says he killed them "all" -- did he mean he killed all of them, minus Teddy, who was already dead but just sorta got dragged along? Ala Weekend at its possible he blew his brains out in the valley i guess, it kind of looks like they're in a valley when he blows his brains out and they start the convo with something like "we made it, its beautiful blah blah" don't they?
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Blazing Ownager posted:Sadly it's one of those shortcuts that's so well known that I think even the common viewer notices and finds it annoying. I would imagine that William has made more than one trip to the rape barn in 30 years of visiting Westworld
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DariusLikewise posted:I would imagine that William has made more than one trip to the rape barn in 30 years of visiting Westworld Agreed, I got the feeling that that little event is one of the first things he does whenever he visits.
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DariusLikewise posted:I would imagine that William has made more than one trip to the rape barn in 30 years of visiting Westworld Yeah he most likely has, but using the exact shot from S01E01 and not altering it at all is pretty lazy.
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WMain00 posted:Or maybe they did realise and this is all part of the storyline, which is also somehow connected to trains. The big reveal: Westworld is the Truman Show, and Ford's big plan is to pay $64,000 to whoever makes it out of the park alive. Edit: HBO cancels Westworld and goes all in on "Willie's Virtual Rape Barn Staycation" spinoff XYZAB fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Jun 21, 2018 |
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Jun 21, 2018 23:15
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:Yeah he most likely has, but using the exact shot from S01E01 and not altering it at all is pretty lazy. Why would they pay two actors and assorted crew to shoot a new scene that will only been seen on a small portion of a prop for a half second shot? Goon showrunners would bankrupt their productions two episodes in.
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:Yeah he most likely has, but using the exact shot from S01E01 and not altering it at all is pretty lazy. lol cmon it was a rectangle among like 10 others in a 2 second shot and it's an effective way to convey to the audience in that short amount of time that his wife is watching his worst WestWorld moments compilation.
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And if we want to get all nerdy about it I would assume technology by then is advanced to the point of having cameras small enough to exist just about anywhere in the park without being intrusive, if not floating around like specks of dust, and would definitely be deployed in a park who's major purpose is to record the actions of guests.
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I don't see how using that shot in the file was lazy at all.
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imo it's only lazy in the sense that scene happened after his wife died. Otherwise who cares lol
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If Billy owns Delos which owns WW, why does he have to gently caress around for 30 years waiting for Ford to jump off the deep end and let the hosts go crazy. Why can’t he just send out an email like “hey, turn the bullet protection off I wanna be able to die tia”
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Fitzy Fitz posted:I don't see how using that shot in the file was lazy at all. Because this isn't The Office and what we are watching is not supposed to be acknowledged as a camera filming them. Also yeah it happened before his wife died. Intel&Sebastian posted:lol cmon it was a rectangle among like 10 others in a 2 second shot and it's an effective way to convey to the audience in that short amount of time that his wife is watching his worst WestWorld moments compilation. They could have easily and quickly thrown some sort of filter or overlay over it. I know it's not that big of a deal, but it did take me out of the scene a bit which is something they should strive to avoid.
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esperterra posted:imo it's only lazy in the sense that scene happened after his wife died. Otherwise who cares lol Oh yeah... well that part makes sense.
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Yes its a two second shot but barn rape was a memorable and important scene from season 1. Continuity isnt much to ask from a television show especially one that aims for the high brow. Picking apart the show is almost as fun as watching it and watching it is pretty fun.
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It's either lazy because they should have done the scene from 10 different angles or if they do that it's confusing because which way is the barn going? I imagine they had a similar discussion in the writer's room... 
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They could have done any shot with young william being a dick or any shot simply with young william Hell they could have just made that square a part of the computer with no video on it.
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To be fair they fully realized the host programming for the split second tablet shots. It’s lazy yes but who the gently caress cares.
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The show relies on macguffins more than a blizzard game. The two seconds we get to see inside one the writers cant be bothered to follow continuity. After all whats on that card led to the death of the main characters wife and daughter. It's one of the rare times the show "shows" not tells and the "show" is a big derp
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Why didn't they just use footage of the McPoyles, we haven't seen those shots on West World before & they really show you the menace and evil in William's heart.
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YOU WILL RAPE HERRRR!!
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Jun 22, 2018 01:39
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YA GET FORK STABBED!
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Despera posted:The show relies on macguffins more than a blizzard game. The two seconds we get to see inside one the writers cant be bothered to follow continuity. After all whats on that card led to the death of the main characters wife and daughter. It's one of the rare times the show "shows" not tells and the "show" is a big derp I think you're blowing this out of proportion, it will all make sense when we get to Wait just a tick, didn't they find the tiger corpse at the edge of the lake that hasn't been created yet? Doesn't that imply that Rajworld Grace hasn't arrived yet?
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