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Umm, hey The Orville thread. I am pretty leftist but I don't want the thread for the show I like getting closed so can we rage somewhere else?
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40k may be more progressive than Mike Pence's America. I mean women can rise high in almost every branch of the Imperiums service. Generally, unless you get stuck on some fantanatical imperial cult world, as long as your praise the Emperor and pay your tithes, you can live how you like. Man I hate how we have to wait until January for more shows. Where's the musical episode?
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Jun 23, 2018 03:14
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Jeb! Repetition posted:The primary difference between conservatism and liberalism is that liberalism seeks some kind of change and conservatism doesn't. Not all change is progress. I would say it a little differently: conservatism seeks, ideally, to conserve the good things from the past, not simply to avoid change entirely. Likewise, unless I am mistaken, ideally liberalism/progressivism seeks to make good changes, not just change for the sake of change. And a healthy society needs both.
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Jun 23, 2018 03:32
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There has literally never been a time in history that being conservative has been the right choice. Or even won in the end. Tell the Roman senators that Julius Cesars liberal land reform is worth dying over.
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Jun 23, 2018 03:35
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drunken officeparty posted:There has literally never been a time in history that being conservative has been the right choice. Or even won in the end. Tell the Roman senators that Julius Cesars liberal land reform is worth dying over. Caesar didn't even remotely go to war because his land reform bill got voted down, or even for any populist reasons. The ideologies and situations in late Republican Rome don't bear more than a passing similarity to modern America and I really wish people would stop acting like they're comparable
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Jun 23, 2018 03:40
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:Not all change is progress. I would say it a little differently: conservatism seeks, ideally, to conserve the good things from the past, not simply to avoid change entirely. Likewise, unless I am mistaken, ideally liberalism/progressivism seeks to make good changes, not just change for the sake of change. And a healthy society needs both. gently caress off with this.
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Jun 23, 2018 03:44
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cheetah7071 posted:Caesar didn't even remotely go to war because his land reform bill got voted down, or even for any populist reasons. The ideologies and situations in late Republican Rome don't bear more than a passing similarity to modern America and I really wish people would stop acting like they're comparable I’m not trying to compare America to Rome. It was just the first example to come to mind. Pick any other you want, the French revolution, the Soviets, whatevs.
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Jun 23, 2018 03:49
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Peachfart posted:Umm, hey The Orville thread. I am pretty leftist but I don't want the thread for the show I like getting closed so can we rage somewhere else? Think they'll build another one? Plenty of letters left in the alphabet turn left hillary!! noo posted:Not all change is progress. I would say it a little differently: conservatism seeks, ideally, to conserve the good things from the past, not simply to avoid change entirely. Likewise, unless I am mistaken, ideally liberalism/progressivism seeks to make good changes, not just change for the sake of change. And a healthy society needs both. Conservatives don't stand for any of the good things you describe in practice, and in fact go out of their way to destroy institutions that are meant to conserve good things (like the environment we all share) so they can make themselves richer or simply out of spite. People who do things like that on Star Trek are usually considered villains, or at best misguided souls that needed to be stopped before they hurt someone.
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Jun 23, 2018 03:59
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drunken officeparty posted:I’m not trying to compare America to Rome. It was just the first example to come to mind. Pick any other you want, the French revolution, the Soviets, whatevs. conservatives won pretty decisively in the french revolution and in all dozen of the revolutions of 1848 you could argue french liberals won "in the end" but what does in the end even mean? Maybe if you put your cut off for "the end" at June 2018. But who knows in 2100 what it'll look like, or 2500, or 3000? There's a reasonable argument to be made in 400 AD that Rome always "wins" int he end whatever that means and 200 years later it was half the size and a thousand years later it was gone cheetah7071 fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Jun 23, 2018 |
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lol if a movement want things to change and wins people know about it, if they lose nothing changes and nobody gives a gently caress.
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Jun 23, 2018 04:41
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mycomancy posted:You align yourself with pedophiles, white supremacists, and other assorted monsters, so your 'beilever' status is loving garbage. I hope you get brain cancer and soon. Peace, and long life. 🖖
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Jun 23, 2018 05:16
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Well now that that's over with. Do we have a release date for season two? Or any cast changes?
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:Not all change is progress. I would say it a little differently: conservatism seeks, ideally, to conserve the good things from the past, not simply to avoid change entirely. Likewise, unless I am mistaken, ideally liberalism/progressivism seeks to make good changes, not just change for the sake of change. And a healthy society needs both. If it was that simple there'd never be any disagreement. My point is that Star Trek supports the liberal animating tendency toward "change." But it's good that you're mature enough to enjoy it anyway.
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Jun 23, 2018 07:15
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Sazabi posted:Well now that that's over with. Do we have a release date for season two? Or any cast changes? They replaced Seth MacFarlane
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Jeb! Repetition posted:If it was that simple there'd never be any disagreement. My point is that Star Trek supports the liberal animating tendency toward "change." But it's good that you're mature enough to enjoy it anyway. Unless it's a change they don't like. Like when those aliens tried to join the federation by inhabiting the bodies of useless starfleet admirals, and humans murdered the gently caress out of them. All about new life and new civilizations, unless you ugly.  So much for the tolerant federation!
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Facebook Aunt posted:Unless it's a change they don't like. Like when those aliens tried to join the federation by inhabiting the bodies of useless starfleet admirals, and humans murdered the gently caress out of them. All about new life and new civilizations, unless you ugly. in the far future, brain slugs are the only remaining acceptable targets for speciesism
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Jun 23, 2018 16:10
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Imagine waking up and checking the paper on Earth the next day. "Joint Defense Chiefs Executed by Captain and First Officer of Flagship Enterprise, Were Under Control of Brain Slugs for Indeterminate Amount of Time"
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Jun 23, 2018 16:23
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Assassinated.
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Jun 23, 2018 16:30
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WE SEEK PEACEFUL COEXISTENCE (neck throbs)
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Jun 23, 2018 17:08
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We are smart, we look for things.
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mycomancy posted:I hope you get a debilitating brain disease that robs you of what makes you you and your family destroys their life trying to save you. Sadly, with my spouse's extended family as proof, even this won't stop them from voting. The family fills the ballot out "like he would want" and sends the ballot in. Not even death two months before the election was enough to stop them (all while complaining about "lieberal voting fraud"...).
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poolside toaster posted:Sadly, with my spouse's extended family as proof, even this won't stop them from voting. The family fills the ballot out "like he would want" and sends the ballot in. Not even death two months before the election was enough to stop them (all while complaining about "lieberal voting fraud"...). What the gently caress why have you not reported this
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Facebook Aunt posted:Unless it's a change they don't like. Like when those aliens tried to join the federation by inhabiting the bodies of useless starfleet admirals, and humans murdered the gently caress out of them. All about new life and new civilizations, unless you ugly. The best part is in the captain's log immediately following this scene, Picard laments "having to destroy life after all these years of learning to respect it" or words to that effect
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Jun 23, 2018 18:42
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big black turnout posted:What the gently caress why have you not reported this Yes, you should report this.
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big black turnout posted:What the gently caress why have you not reported this Yeah, jesus christ, this is a serious violation of the law.
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Jun 23, 2018 19:50
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Hey guys what's goin on lot of new posts you must've heard about MacFarl...
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Jun 23, 2018 20:09
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Komrade Hitlerstalin decided to out himself as SA's most willfully obtuse yet wholly sincere conservative once again, always a good time.
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Jun 24, 2018 03:05
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You'd think I would learn one of these times.
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Wasn't there a TNG episode where a parasite had to take over somebody on the Enterprise to survive and they ended up making peace with it, or at least considering doing that?
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Jun 24, 2018 06:16
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I must be thinking of The Host
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It's a shame you never Watched Ds9
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His rates were too high.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Wasn't there a TNG episode where a parasite had to take over somebody on the Enterprise to survive and they ended up making peace with it, or at least considering doing that? I know there was the trill the dr crusher fell in love with that had to join with riker while a new host was delivered.
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I think he's talking about the one where they find they are missing three days and investigate but Data tries to sabotage. It turns out the crew willingly volunteered to be vessels for the survival of some alien but the condition was they were not allowed to remember.
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Kurieg posted:WE SEEK PEACEFUL COEXISTENCE You know, after that happened, I bet the Trill got awfully nervous. "Whoa whoa, don't go thinking we're like these guys, we're totally different heh heh."
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Astroman posted:You know, after that happened, I bet the Trill got awfully nervous. *Phaser blasts Jadzia’s head until it explodes.
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Astroman posted:You know, after that happened, I bet the Trill got awfully nervous. There's a (garbage) Trek EU novel that said the Conspiracy bugs were mutant outcast Trill symbiotes. Because of course there was.
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8one6 posted:There's a (garbage) Trek EU novel that said the Conspiracy bugs were mutant outcast Trill symbiotes. In Star trek online, they were engineered by the solonagen based life forms that abducted crew members into subspace that one time time, at the behest of the Iconians.
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:I think he's talking about the one where they find they are missing three days and investigate but Data tries to sabotage. It turns out the crew willingly volunteered to be vessels for the survival of some alien but the condition was they were not allowed to remember. No, they weren't vessels for their survival, the aliens just didn't want anyone to know they were at that planet. There was a TOS episode where three of the crew (Kirk, Spock, Diana Muldaur's character) agreed to be vessels for a time so that the aliens could build robots to live in, and there was TNG Power Play where aliens possessed Data, Troi, and O'Brien and were trying to trick/coerce Picard into letting more aliens onto the ship to possess the rest of his crew.
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There was an episode of TOS where they are taking some scientist lady somewhere but they crash on some planet. Turns out Zephram Cochrane lives there with some alien cloud. The scientist lady dies and everyone is ok with the cloud being possessing her dead body to live with Zephram Cochrane forever. I doubt her family would want the remains anyway. "Don't worry folks, your family member's corpse is being hosed by ol Zephram Cochrane himself."
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