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Slutitution
Jun 26, 2018

by Nyc_Tattoo

Kangra posted:

Similar (if far worse) statements have been made before that confounded the two, so no I can’t really be sure where you’re headed when a mistake turns your sloppy analogy into a bizarre one.

Then you’re pretty dumb, but I’ll spell it out for you next time.

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Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

starkebn posted:

Same, it's just like another instrument. I couldn't tell you what nearly every song I hear is about.

Why would you even listen to music then?

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Rhyno posted:

Why would you even listen to music then?

Some, like my mom, listen to music purely for the sounds and the moods, and get no lyrics unless we sit down and talk them through.

Others can get lost in the lyrics themselves and completely forget about the surrounding music, and have no idea even what instruments are played (is there a piano? no idea! -- my dad sometimes)

Most people are somewhere in between though, and it can change.. some times you might be more about lyrics but then later more about music. the change might come (and come back) over days or months or years or never. I sometimes listen to music in languages i dont understand so i can feel that one feeling, its interesting, try it!

Is this surprising to you?

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
A bit yes. I am aware there is a lot of music without anyone singing but I just can't fathom listening to say, a classic rock radio station and not understanding the lyrics.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



everybody's different :shrug:

my mom never knew that Hallelujah (one of her favorite songs, she loves both the original Cohen & Buckley's cover) is pretty raunchy until I told her in 2016

Pigbuster
Sep 12, 2010

Fun Shoe
I love the musicality of the human voice but for whatever reason I prefer it when the lyrics themselves are meaningless to me so the vast majority of my library is from non-English artists.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Netflix faces an investigation over 'child pornography' scenes in an Argentinian movie
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5895419/Netflix-face-investigation-child-pornography-claims.html

chitoryu12 posted:

Turns out it's not actually metaphorical! It was actually a terrifying description of him abusing women between shows!

It's like when Tipper Gore was offended by "Under the Blade" by Twisted Sister and they had those congressional hearings. Lyrics are sometimes very straightforward.

Kangra
May 7, 2012

Thinking about 'lyrics dealing with rape' made me realize that one musical artist I'd be unwilling to believe an accusation on its face about and genuinely appalled were it proven true would be Glen Phillips. (Lead singer of Toad the Wet Sprocket; at this point almost as well known for supporting RAINN as for making music).

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Rhyno posted:

A bit yes. I am aware there is a lot of music without anyone singing but I just can't fathom listening to say, a classic rock radio station and not understanding the lyrics.

That's basically my entire childhood. Hell, there's jokes about how a lot of super famous songs most of their fans will admit they have no idea what the lyrics are.

I used to think 'Ego' was 'Eagle'. It improves the song imo.

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Rhyno posted:

A bit yes. I am aware there is a lot of music without anyone singing but I just can't fathom listening to say, a classic rock radio station and not understanding the lyrics.

Guitar solos rule, mate


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGdoqsuiN8

Listen to this and try to pick out more than every third word. Its really hard.

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
I’ve never been able to understand Tools lyrics while listening to them either, not that I’ve ever really listened to them outside of hearing them on the radio.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Zogo posted:

Ron Jeremy Sued for Sexual Assault & Battery ... In Washington State
http://www.tmz.com/2018/06/27/ron-jeremy-sued-sexual-assault-battery-washington-radio-model/

he raped the porn stars ginger lynn and kiki daire years ago too.

was tool guy the one who turned out to be a massive chud or is that some other 90s-00s band lead i'm thinking of?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xazm2BAPyAQ

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Rhyno posted:

Why would you even listen to music then?

There's gotta be songs even in English you've heard before and liked and not known what in the hell the lyrics are about.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

There's gotta be songs even in English you've heard before and liked and not known what in the hell the lyrics are about.

And usually I try to figure it out.

How the heck do you sing along if you don't know the words?

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

Beep boop why do people music?

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Rhyno posted:

How the heck do you sing along if you don't know the words?

Go look up 'karaoke' on youtube, it's gonna blow your mind :v:

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Or you just wing it and eventually once at a party ten years later someone goes “No u idiot it’s ‘up all night to GET lucky’ not ‘Mexican lucky’, what the gently caress!”

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Groovelord Neato posted:

was tool guy the one who turned out to be a massive chud or is that some other 90s-00s band lead i'm thinking of?

I think that's Billy Corgan/Smashing Pumpkins. Dude's always been a jerk, him being a CHUD is oone of the least surprising events


Also another band where I have no idea what the lyrics are about. Billy Corgan is an objectively bad singer and the sounds he makes are not English

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.

Rhyno posted:

How the heck do you sing along if you don't know the words?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKt75jUuKJY

Stop being such a silly goober

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

I think that's Billy Corgan/Smashing Pumpkins. Dude's always been a jerk, him being a CHUD is oone of the least surprising events


Also another band where I have no idea what the lyrics are about. Billy Corgan is an objectively bad singer and the sounds he makes are not English

Yeah, that's Billy. Keenan was actually pretty popular and regarded as a cool left-wing dude up until these accusations. Billy Corgan got fat and went full alt-right MAGA who hasn't voted since 1992, thinks the SJWs are communist racists, and is a big fan of Alex Jones who thinks swine flu was an Obama conspiracy.

the escape goat
Apr 16, 2008

Corgan also became president of a semi-failing wrestling promotion called Total Nonstop Action. TNA. Yup.
They rebranded to Impact last year, but still.

Yaws
Oct 23, 2013

Billy Corgan is a hack

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Today was a pretty good song.

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

I think that's Billy Corgan/Smashing Pumpkins. Dude's always been a jerk, him being a CHUD is oone of the least surprising events


Also another band where I have no idea what the lyrics are about. Billy Corgan is an objectively bad singer and the sounds he makes are not English

https://www.spin.com/2017/05/tool-maynard-keegan-snowflakes-memorial-day/

Maynard James Keenan posted:

Those of you who are law enforcement and military, your job is to defend our right to act like whining, entitled snowflake assholes, myself being one. Snowflakes, your job is to respect them loving doing that for you. Divided we fall. Don’t believe the hype dumb-dumbs, we’re all in this together.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"


i do not give a poo poo about the political inclinations of a rapist

he is a rapist regardless of whether he's a chud or a leftist

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

DC Murderverse posted:

i do not give a poo poo about the political inclinations of a rapist

he is a rapist regardless of whether he's a chud or a leftist

That’s fair

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014



yeah it was def maynard i was thinking of because i remembered it was someone who owned a vineyard.

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

chitoryu12 posted:

Yeah, that's Billy. Keenan was actually pretty popular and regarded as a cool left-wing dude up until these accusations. Billy Corgan got fat and went full alt-right MAGA who hasn't voted since 1992, thinks the SJWs are communist racists, and is a big fan of Alex Jones who thinks swine flu was an Obama conspiracy.

Billy Corgan has always been pretty galaxy brained when it comes to anything so its not surprising

Its funny though figuring the Smashing Pumpkins were the most diverse band of the 90's

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Feldegast42 posted:

Its funny though figuring the Smashing Pumpkins were the most diverse band of the 90's

Oh man, wait til you hear of 4 Non Blondes or The Black Eyed Peas!

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Bust Rodd posted:

Or you just wing it and eventually once at a party ten years later someone goes “No u idiot it’s ‘up all night to GET lucky’ not ‘Mexican lucky’, what the gently caress!”

There’s a couple of Radiohead songs that I still prefer my misheard versions of. In my defense, there weren’t official lyrics for the songs in question (Polyethylene and Lift) available until recently and Thom is a mumbly fucker.

(“A sense of recognition/a face you barely loved” is a MUCH better set of lyrics than “the smell of air conditioning/the fish are belly up”, wtf Thom)

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

I think my mass effect is broken

Groovelord Neato posted:

he raped the porn stars ginger lynn and kiki daire years ago too.

was tool guy the one who turned out to be a massive chud or is that some other 90s-00s band lead i'm thinking of?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xazm2BAPyAQ

Weren't there some allegations a couple of years ago as well? Or has a new set come to light?

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

How does that saying about bad apples go again?
https://www.cartoonbrew.com/artist-...ure-161540.html

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
They're actually doing it:

quote:

"Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance, Jr., today announced the filing of a superseding indictment containing additional charges against HARVEY WEINSTEIN, 66. Pursuant to the D.A.’s Office’s ongoing investigation, the Grand Jury has charged WEINSTEIN with an additional count of Criminal Sexual Act in the First Degree for a forcible sexual act against a third woman in 2006, as well as two counts of Predatory Sexual Assault, a Class A-II felony which carries a minimum sentence of 10 years and a maximum sentence of life imprisonment. "

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

I think my mass effect is broken

GrandpaPants posted:

How does that saying about bad apples go again?
https://www.cartoonbrew.com/artist-...ure-161540.html

I hadn't heard about the Lasseter stuff. There's always more, and it's always worse.

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/jul/03/guy-pearce-suggests-he-was-groped-by-kevin-spacey-on-set-of-la-confidential

quote:

In an interview with Andrew Denton on the Australian talk show Interview, Pearce was asked for his thoughts on working with Spacey. The actor replied: “Yeah … yeah. Tough one to talk about at the moment. Amazing actor; incredible actor. Mmm. Slightly difficult time with Kevin, yeah.” He then added: “He’s a handsy guy.”

Pearce then said: “Thankfully, I was 29 and not 14.”

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

Is there a way to like, put Kevin Spacey in the containment unit from Ghostbusters forever?

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Kevin Spacey Investigated for 3 New Sexual Assaults in London
http://www.tmz.com/2018/07/03/kevin-spacey-new-london-sexual-assaults-investigation/

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

Like a really, really big containment unit.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Fart City posted:

Like a really, really big containment unit.

Why should it be big? Motherfucker should spend the rest of his life in the tiniest box he can fit in.

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Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:

AceOfFlames posted:

Why should it be big? Motherfucker should spend the rest of his life in the tiniest box he can fit in.

That’s why he’s a monster though

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