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khwarezm posted:Wrong, refer to my avatar.
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Velociraptors are Cassowaries Cassowaries are birds ergo Velociraptors are birds.
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Jul 5, 2018 03:38
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In all seriousness, the whole scales rule feathers drool thing annoys me since I must have missed the memo where it was decided things like a Harpy Eagle or Cassowary are big 'ol pussies.
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Jul 5, 2018 03:50
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khwarezm posted:In all seriousness, the whole scales rule feathers drool thing annoys me since I must have missed the memo where it was decided things like a Harpy Eagle or Cassowary are big 'ol pussies. the fact that the entirety of Jurassic World's plot is built on BD Wong saying "people are bored of the same old dinosaurs" is the literal craziest thing anyone has ever said in film
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Jul 5, 2018 04:12
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Are the writers unaware that Zoos and Aquariums continue to exist and be popular?
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Jul 5, 2018 04:14
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khwarezm posted:In all seriousness, the whole scales rule feathers drool thing annoys me since I must have missed the memo where it was decided things like a Harpy Eagle or Cassowary are big 'ol pussies. Far Cry 3 taught me about how Cassowaries are basically modern day raptors.
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Jul 5, 2018 04:18
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WampaLord posted:Far Cry 3 taught me about how Cassowaries are basically modern day raptors. They're a far cry from what I imagined dinosaurs had looked like when I was a kid.
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Jul 5, 2018 04:19
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khwarezm posted:Are the writers unaware that Zoos and Aquariums continue to exist and be popular? Jurassic World wasn't a zoo or aquarium. It was a theme park. The Jurassic World execs freaking out about a small percentage drop in profits was the most realistic thing about the movie.
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Jul 5, 2018 04:34
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Detective No. 27 posted:Jurassic World wasn't a zoo or aquarium. It was a theme park. The Jurassic World execs freaking out about a small percentage drop in profits was the most realistic thing about the movie. Also it's out on an island, with all the logistics involved with that. Not to mention active R&D costs. Losing revenue of any kind would scare the execs shitless.
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Jul 5, 2018 04:42
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Detective No. 27 posted:Jurassic World wasn't a zoo or aquarium. It was a theme park. The Jurassic World execs freaking out about a small percentage drop in profits was the most realistic thing about the movie. While the latter part is definitely true, isn't the difference between the a theme park and zoo kind of arbitrary if we're talking about Jurassic Park? I mean both institutions are trying to make money anyway and the park is all based around showing off exotic creature to the public.
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Jul 5, 2018 04:54
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I think he's referring to the management style. Namely that the theme park industry tends to have hyper flighty management who make massive changes in response to fairly small losses in profit.
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Jul 5, 2018 05:01
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Also it's out on an island, with all the logistics involved with that. Not to mention active R&D costs. Losing revenue of any kind would scare the execs shitless. yea and that works for, say, Disney, but I think the factor of 'uh, Dave, they're fuckin dinosaurs' should have been there. Like, I dunno, do a coupon day or something, people want to see dinos.
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Jul 5, 2018 05:02
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khwarezm posted:While the latter part is definitely true, isn't the difference between the a theme park and zoo kind of arbitrary if we're talking about Jurassic Park? I mean both institutions are trying to make money anyway and the park is all based around showing off exotic creature to the public. Again; it's on an island off of Costa Rica. They have to eat the costs of shipping a theme park's worth of food and supplies there on a constant basis.
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Jul 5, 2018 05:03
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What makes Jurassic Park/World a theme park and not a zoo is in the park's conception. Hammond had a background in entertainment and even fashioned himself as a Walt Disney figure. The entire concept behind the park is even explained to the audience by a cartoon character. Detective No. 27 fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Jul 5, 2018 |
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Jul 5, 2018 05:07
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If Jurassic World 3 doesnt end with Dr. Malcolm & Dr. Wu fighting shirtless on top of a dinosaur genetically engineered to be as big as Arsenal Gear I will post a scathing review on the internet.
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Jul 5, 2018 05:07
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Do Alien again but with dinosaurs instead
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I'm not sure about the rest of you, but I'm really looking forward to Jurassic World 3: Dinosaurs Attack!
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Jul 5, 2018 05:29
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Conal Cochran posted:I'm not sure about the rest of you, but I'm really looking forward to Jurassic World 3: Dinosaurs Attack! Most ambitious crossover meme but it's Jurassic Park and Transformers. Dinobots vs. genetically engineered dinosaurs: whoever wins, we lose.
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Jul 5, 2018 05:32
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Lovecraft was a decent storyteller, but his racism frequently got in the way of his already awkward writing rendering a lot his works unintentionally hilarious. Like, that one story that reads like a self-parody where you have that witch worshiping eldrich gods and stuff, but the horryfying twist was that she turned out to be 1/1000 black or something. His horror is informed mostly not by his bigotry (its influence on his stories was strictly negative), but his fear of literally going insane. rvm fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Jul 5, 2018 |
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Jul 5, 2018 05:37
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Detective No. 27 posted:What makes Jurassic Park/World a theme park and not a zoo is in the park's conception. Hammond had a background in entertainment and even fashioned himself as a Walt Disney figure. The entire concept behind the park is even explained to the audience by a cartoon character. Yeah, but like does that make that much difference? Zoos have sort of evolved into a semi-useful arm for education and conservation but their main purpose is to attract paying customers to gawk at animals, and pick up plenty of stuff at the gift shop while also grabbing some burgers and coke over the day. Their original background decades ago was even more based around entertainment, my grandmother told me about riding elephants at the zoo when they could still do that, and going to modern zoos it's still the case that making it a fun day out for the family is highest priority for both the people running them and people going to them. khwarezm fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Jul 5, 2018 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:why don't they just play Fantasy Adventure to Adult Lechery. that has enough horrible poo poo in it. My friends and I once spent a drunk/stoned night creating characters with this thing. We were gonna go all PvP arena with it but drunk/stoned. What came out of it tho was that I maxed the Penis Width roll while getting really low on the Penis Length Chart. The tale of Captain Pancakecock became the stuff of legend. That's my story. Here's a thing that I disagree with because Alien 3 on the SNES was the poo poo (for young me) and Aliens on the Amstrad CPC was loving terrifying! https://youtu.be/GM-7gKkurQQ
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KayTee posted:My friends and I once spent a drunk/stoned night creating characters with this thing. We were gonna go all PvP arena with it but drunk/stoned. There used to be a program that would automatically roll up a FATAL character but I don't know where it can be found. I'd assume it would be great fun to see what kind of horrible monster you rolled up. Testekill fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Jul 5, 2018 |
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Jul 5, 2018 05:54
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Testekill posted:There used to be a program that would automatically roll up a FATAL character but I don't know where it can be found. I'd assume it would be great fun to seeing what kind of horrible monster you rolled up. Meh, it was glitched to always make your breast size an A-cup, so half your characters weren't as funny as they could have been
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Detective No. 27 posted:What makes Jurassic Park/World a theme park and not a zoo is in the park's conception. Hammond had a background in entertainment and even fashioned himself as a Walt Disney figure. The entire concept behind the park is even explained to the audience by a cartoon character. In the book Hammond spent so much effort on trying to make his park on-theme to what he imagined the time of the dinosaurs to be like he couldn't even put in topiary that wouldn't poison his animals and guests. He pretty much rushed to complete the park and cut all the corners he could because his board of directors were going to can him and sell the company to the scary Japanese company that Crichton always seemed to put into his books during the 80's.
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Jul 5, 2018 07:31
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logger posted:In the book Hammond spent so much effort on trying to make his park on-theme to what he imagined the time of the dinosaurs to be like he couldn't even put in topiary that wouldn't poison his animals and guests. He pretty much rushed to complete the park and cut all the corners he could because his board of directors were going to can him and sell the company to the scary Japanese company that Crichton always seemed to put into his books during the 80's. The irony being, that Japanese company probably would have been capable of running the park without loving it up like Hammond. Hey, can you imagine a Jurassic Park owned and operated by Nintendo? 
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business hammocks posted:They should include a scene with Laura Dern or Sam Neill complaining that the bottom fell out of paleontology and they have to be adjuncts at 65 because of Jurassic Park, even though real dinosaurs are totally different and worth studying. This scene, with these actors, is in JP3.
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RareAcumen posted:Do Alien again but with dinosaurs instead But best of the worst showed us that Carnosaur 1 and 2 beat Jurassic Park to that particular market.
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Jul 5, 2018 07:41
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Libluini posted:The irony being, that Japanese company probably would have been capable of running the park without loving it up like Hammond.
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Terrible Opinions posted:Alternatively Jurassic Park owned and operated by Konami. I don't think putting dinosaur pachinko machines in cages is going to get a big enough audience to be profitable.
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So re: Hbomb's Lovecraft chat on queer fans of the old reactionary. It reminded me of when I was teenager I stumbled upon a folk parody of ABBA's Fernando about Cthulhu and the Mountains of Madness. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtXqvlRWft8 Personally I also found myself identifying a lot with his stories involving escaping the confines of your own body, annoyingly I've forgotten their names, one involved an artist who could escape to dream places. Another was connected to Shadow over Innsmouth, the narrators best friend married a woman from there and it turns out she's been hijacking bodies, it was very interesting though it did have some quality misogyny. the one doing the jacking is the soul of the family patriarch and he's desperate to escape the body of his daughter because men naturally have stronger more intelligent brains  Also one story that never seems to get brought up when Lovecraft's racism is being discussed but really should is The Temple. http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/te.aspx its the one about the U-boat. Lovecraft was a racist but specifically a massive Anglo-Saxon racist, the captain is essentially a German version of Lovecraft complete with the ranting about inherent racial and cultural superiority. But since he's a German (specifically Prussian) his rants are delivered in a way that's supposed to show his barbarity and unhinged thoughts. But if anything its just toned down from what Lovecraft was writing elsewhere. Its quite a read.
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khwarezm posted:Yeah, it really wasn't. Here's a challenge, try to come up with any possible storyline for a Jurassic Park movie that isn't either utterly hokey schlock or just retreading what happens in the first movie. Die Hard in Jurassic Park
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Libluini posted:The irony being, that Japanese company probably would have been capable of running the park without loving it up like Hammond. An attraction based around colourful gee-whiz gimmicks, yet slavishly beholden to dangerously outdated and backwards ideals behind the scenes? Yes, that’s called Jurassic World.
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FoldableHuman posted:This scene, with these actors, is in JP3. The best sequel. I've always said.
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achillesforever6 posted:E: Its amazing how much the Jurassic Park franchise fell off a gigantic cliff at The Lost World, the only thing I can compare it to is The Terminator Franchise.
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Really enjoyed Hbombs last video, if you all liked his analysis I think you should track down a copy of Lovecraft Unbound. It is a collection of short stories inspired by Lovecraft mythos. One in particular that is relevant is titled Vernon, driving Simon Kurt Unsworth. It's one of the strongest stories in the book and also has the least to do with tentacle monsters from beyond and so on. e; I would call it THE strongest but that honor goes to Leng Marc Laidlaw. I'm a sucker for mushrooms.
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logger posted:He pretty much rushed to complete the park and cut all the corners he could because his board of directors were going to can him and sell the company to the scary Japanese company that Crichton always seemed to put into his books during the 80's. This was 80 culture all over, the Japanese terrified Americans with their quality cars and (seemingly) booming economy. I won't post a screed from my phone but it can all be distilled into the "READ. MY. FAX!" scene from the second back to the future
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Baka-nin posted:So re: Hbomb's Lovecraft chat on queer fans of the old reactionary. It reminded me of when I was teenager I stumbled upon a folk parody of ABBA's Fernando about Cthulhu and the Mountains of Madness. You're thinking of Dreamquest of Unknown Kaddath (or another member of his Dream Cycle) and The Thing on the Doorstep, respectively quote:Also one story that never seems to get brought up when Lovecraft's racism is being discussed but really should is The Temple. http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/te.aspx its the one about the U-boat. Lovecraft was a racist but specifically a massive Anglo-Saxon racist, the captain is essentially a German version of Lovecraft complete with the ranting about inherent racial and cultural superiority. But since he's a German (specifically Prussian) his rants are delivered in a way that's supposed to show his barbarity and unhinged thoughts. But if anything its just toned down from what Lovecraft was writing elsewhere. Its quite a read. I don't think I've read that one. Will give it a look!
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Baka-nin posted:it was very interesting though it did have some quality misogyny. the one doing the jacking is the soul of the family patriarch and he's desperate to escape the body of his daughter because men naturally have stronger more intelligent brains Now THIS was an unfortunately common attitude of the time.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Yeah, because feathered dinosaurs look dumb as hell. Detective No. 27 posted:Jurassic World wasn't a zoo or aquarium. It was a theme park. The Jurassic World execs freaking out about a small percentage drop in profits was the most realistic thing about the movie. 
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achillesforever6 posted:They are when the paleoartist goes overboard, but most actually look pretty cool; I think a big problem is that for some reason they give them complex feathers when for most dinosaurs the feathers were pretty simple. Counterpoint.
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