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Updates from the fighting pits! b-minus challenges IcePhoenix for $50 (max bet): Zane loses to Mr Fluffums AA challenges Anpu for $40: Mrs Rockems loses to Khepri IS challenges TNL for $40: Elalix loses to Alkham Genex challenges AS for $35: Prudence loses to Parisa narrowly All losers have survived. Balances for those involved: AA: $60 Anpu: $140 AS: $135 bminus: $50 GeneX: $35 IcePhoenix: $170 IS: $60 TNL: $170
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So as morning always passes into noon, Khepri is always rises the victor. ##unvote
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Jul 11, 2018 12:30
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##unvote ##vote GenX GeneX it's time to knock you and Prudence out of this side game entirely $35
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Jul 11, 2018 14:33
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Hi at some point we need to mafia.
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Jul 11, 2018 15:23
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Max posted:Hi at some point we need to mafia. I think Slamburger's game, fun as it is, muddles the thread in a way that buys them town credibility without doing anything town oriented and I would comfortably rest a vote there given that there's been nothing else d1, but roleplaying and mini games. Again, phenomenal minigame Slam, but if it came to it, I'd dunk you.
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Jul 11, 2018 15:26
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Max posted:Hi at some point we need to mafia. Agreed. I was gonna make this post earlier but deleted it haha. I’m gonna stick my vote back ##flerp. Let’s move on from jokephase
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Jul 11, 2018 15:27
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Max posted:Hi at some point we need to mafia. it's shitpost day and there's still like 40 hours to go
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Jul 11, 2018 15:28
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I'll start here: ##unvote ##vote MMT Bit of a meta argument but A) MMT has not participated B) More striking, MMT has not participated in role playing an illegal casino/drug den operation, something that I expect to 100% be in her wheelhouse. I was kind of grumpy when Slam created this game within a game because it seemed like an extreme distraction, and I'd be interested to see who was interested in just idly pushing this game along right up until deadline since scum would be happy to keep the heat off for as long as possible. MMT has said nothing about this entire game, which strikes me as MMT's meta of choking and being too scared to say anything one way or another. I am saying this knowing it's a "lol lurker" vote on day 1 and am using it as a jumping off point, but I also genuinely want to see MMT post so I can feel better about her.
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Jul 11, 2018 15:31
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IcePhoenix posted:it's shitpost day and there's still like 40 hours to go Bad opinion. I hate scrambling.
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Jul 11, 2018 15:31
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Max posted:MMT has said nothing about this entire game, which strikes me as MMT's meta of choking and being too scared to say anything one way or another. Should say, MMT's scum meta
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Jul 11, 2018 15:36
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Max posted:Hi at some point we need to mafia. I’ve been mafia-ing the whole time. Max posted:I'll start here: How long irl has this game been going? This seems very, very meta and I don’t like it. You come out swinging about how people aren’t playing seriously enough on day one. You then use the most meta argument imaginable to frame a vote. You then couch it by saying “I just would feel better if MMT participated more”, so it’s not necessarily a scum read if you’re called on it. You sound more like someone interested in looking like they’re participating than someone who is involved in the game. I do not trust Max.
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Jul 11, 2018 15:38
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Max posted:I'll start here:
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Jul 11, 2018 15:40
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Max posted:Bad opinion. I hate scrambling. You know who else hates fun I bet? The cops.
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Jul 11, 2018 15:41
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IcePhoenix posted:You know who else hates fun I bet? You know who wants us mafiosos to trip up having too much fun? The cops.
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Jul 11, 2018 15:49
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I've been trying to use the mini-game to get some light reads on people. I didn't want to spill the beans too early on things I was looking for, but I think its fine to start moving towards mafia'ing now: The two behaviors I was looking for were passive play, and also a turnaround for people that initially didn't want to play but then did anyways, which would indicate cautiousness then bandwagoning to fit in and produce empty content. Nobody fell into the second camp, so there's nobody to finger there, but there were two passive players: Anpu: Anpu posted:Anpu rifles through his multiple pouches and produces a large Scarab Beetle, copper in colour, placing it into the arena. He posts that he's accepting challenges instead of challenging someone else. This is passive play that was one of the things I was looking for since I think its scummy. Atomic Soda is the other passive player. She makes a number of flavor posts and kind of introduces that she has a critter name but she never challenges someone. She's also RP'ing her content which is a null tell on D1, but its hard to parse. Of the two, I think AS is worse ##unvote ##vote Atomic Soda Regarding the people that were early adopters I think its a null tell maybe slightly town. The people that adamantly didn't want to play are no fun but I don't think its scummy. Ok, maybe a little scummy for not wanting to have fun you GRINCHES. Max posted:MMT I understand the point Max is making but I don't agree with it since MMT hasn't posted anything. There's just too many explanations for not posting at all to tie it to a scum tell about not wanting to weigh in on the game. Its pretty low commitment for scum to say something. I think MMT just wasn't around.
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Jul 11, 2018 16:19
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Also this Moat post felt a little fake:Moatillata posted:I am suspicious of this content game Specifically the "suspicious" part seems like a waffle.
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Jul 11, 2018 16:21
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Scorpion Fight! IcePhoenix challenges GenX for $35: Mr Fluffums loses to Prudence but survives. GeneX: $70 IcePhoenix: $135
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Jul 11, 2018 16:28
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Anpu posted:I’ve been mafia-ing the whole time. Prove it.
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Jul 11, 2018 16:50
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Also I pretty much said this in my MMT post but it's mostly a pressure vote to get her to come here and say something.
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Jul 11, 2018 16:51
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But if MMT has said absolutely nothing it's interesting to me that Anpu felt the need to jump to her defense.
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Jul 11, 2018 16:52
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Slamburger posted:IS challenges TNL for $40: Elalix loses to Alkham "Ah, how fun!" Despite my initial reservations I am quickly warming up to this new sport, though perhaps only because I have been so immediately successful at it. I even feel myself growing attached to the little fellow. Quite concerning. Time to raise the stakes. I approach IcePhoenix. "Our scorpions have had quite the run of the pit, eh?" I say. "Indeed, I can only imagine our critters are starved for real competition. Shall we honor their champion spirits with a wager of our own? A champion's wager, I should think suitable." I count out fifty marks worth of the strange currency I won from the earlier matches, the maximum bet allowed. Without waiting for a reply, I signal to an attendant. "Fifty on Alkham against Mr Fluffums. This should be interesting!" A sudden spike of fear stabs my heart as I consider what I have done. A mere minute ago I had considered taking Alkham for a pet. Now I am risking his very existence, betting him off like yet another chip on the table. I can already feel my excitement rising. ##unvote ##vote IcePhoenix And my timing is impeccable, for it appears the others are about to lose interest in the pits, still fretting themselves over the earlier disturbance. Feh, and feh! They fear imprisonment, when they should instead fear the prisons of their own making, their own reservations and restraints that keep them from experiencing life on the razor's edge, from skirting the dividing line between obtaining fortune and losing it all... But even as this thought occurs to me, I hear the voice of Max speak up. Indeed, he was not the only one who noticed Murmur Twin's absence at the table, or her uncharacteristic lack of enthusiasm for these games of chance. I shudder to think of the possibility that perhaps... perhaps Murmur Twin has been convinced away from the life of vice she once thrived in, lured away from the false morality of Gen X! I perish the thought. It is too horrible, too unthinkable. No, I reassure myself, perhaps she is merely ill, from too much gambling. Yes, that must be it.
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Jul 11, 2018 16:54
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Slamburger posted:Scorpion Fight! "Ah, the curse of not having preview edited! I suppose I will commit to my wager anyway, even if this match has lost the thrill of two undefeateds duking it out."
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Jul 11, 2018 16:57
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Oh hey Anpu, last thing: Max posted:I am saying this knowing it's a "lol lurker" vote on day 1 and am using it as a jumping off point, but I also genuinely want to see MMT post so I can feel better about her. It's almost like I had some reason for dropping this vote.
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Jul 11, 2018 16:59
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The Ninth Layer posted:"Ah, the curse of not having preview edited! I suppose I will commit to my wager anyway, even if this match has lost the thrill of two undefeateds duking it out." To be fair, Mr Fluffums also lost to Mrs. Rockems before that. I accept your challenge, however. Even though I don't have a choice, I would accept anyways.
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Jul 11, 2018 17:00
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Slamburger posted:I've been trying to use the mini-game to get some light reads on people. I didn't want to spill the beans too early on things I was looking for, but I think its fine to start moving towards mafia'ing now: Your case is terrrrible. ##unvote ##vote Slamburger --- "The two behaviors I was looking for were passive play, and also a turnaround for people that initially didn't want to play but then did anyways, which would indicate cautiousness then bandwagoning to fit in and produce empty content. Nobody fell into the second camp, so there's nobody to finger there, but there were two passive players:" Using your own mini-game as a mechanical test for alignment based on subjective behaviors is really bad. If this is the premise, you spent most of this test description talking about the latter behavior, and you admit no one falls into that category, but without explanation of what passive play would indicate you call out two players. "He posts that he's accepting challenges instead of challenging someone else. This is passive play that was one of the things I was looking for since I think its scummy." Again, no mechanical correlation to the game, and he made a grandstanding gesture in the roleplay that much was obvious. I did the same thing, granted I had actively challenged players. "Atomic Soda is the other passive player. She makes a number of flavor posts and kind of introduces that she has a critter name but she never challenges someone. She's also RP'ing her content which is a null tell on D1, but its hard to parse." Again, nothing mechanical, she looks worse because she chose to RP someone who doesn't like the violence of the scorpion fights. The roleplaying, the game, all flavor, it's garbage. Anomalous Amalgam fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Jul 11, 2018 |
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Jul 11, 2018 17:03
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IcePhoenix posted:To be fair, Mr Fluffums also lost to Mrs. Rockems before that. "Oho! I confess that I had missed your earlier match among all the chaos. I may not have challenged your Mr Fluffums if I had known. It must be exhausted by now, poor thing, after having fought in so many matches. But perhaps you are due for a change of fortune. I wish you the best in the forthcoming match!" I am a liar, of course. But it doesn't hurt to tell polite lies.
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Jul 11, 2018 17:04
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I edited the post to add some quotation marks beyond the ninja window, I'm sorry.
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Jul 11, 2018 17:07
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:I edited the post to add some quotation marks beyond the ninja window, I'm sorry. ((I had an earlier version of the post open on another tab and as far as I can tell that's the only thing that was changed.))
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Jul 11, 2018 17:10
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Using your own mini-game as a mechanical test for alignment based on subjective behaviors is really bad. If this is the premise, you spent most of this test description talking about the latter behavior, and you admit no one falls into that category, but without explanation of what passive play would indicate you call out two players. AA its hard for me to parse what your criticism means but the reason "passive play" is a (mild) scum tell for me is this: A condition of my content game is that people need to challenge other players. I directed people to pick someone they thought was scum although I realize the weight of this suggestion kind of fell away as people got more engaged with the minigame and just wanted to battle people, which I understand. So people that want to participate in my minigame but don't want to commit to telling us (the thread) who they want to challenge is cautious play and its scummy. If they just say "hey challenge me!" thats scummy. That's the behavior I was looking for. Its not supposed to be some TRAP SPRUNG thing, but I do believe there are some tea leaves to be read that can be indicative of alignment. Same as any other D1 posts about nonsense.
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Jul 11, 2018 17:22
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get away from my dear parisa you fuckers *holds terrified rat protectively*Max posted:Hi at some point we need to mafia. thank goodness Slamburger posted:I've been trying to use the mini-game to get some light reads on people. I didn't want to spill the beans too early on things I was looking for, but I think its fine to start moving towards mafia'ing now: a couple of things in response to this. first, like i said from the moment this started, this whole gambling thing is a great scum distraction. get your post counts up, illusion of engagement, but what actually is achieved? pages of (fun to read) nonsense. second, you say that part of your suspicious fall on me because i don't challenge anyone? aa covered this, but you're essentially justifying a vote here because quote:Atomic Soda is the other passive player. She makes a number of flavor posts and kind of introduces that she has a critter name but she never challenges someone. She's also RP'ing her content which is a null tell on D1, but its hard to parse. which i paraphrase as: - i have flavour posts. i have two really, both of which include scum hunting. i started because i couldn't get an answer to a question i was asking anpu by posting normally (and cause it was kinda fun). . - i don't challenge anyone. why is this a scum tell again? because i engaged, but didn't engage the way you wanted? - my (two) roleplay posts are hard to parse - sorry! if you read them again you'll note that both of them include actual scum hunting, not just bloodthirsty bravado. can you explain why i am 'the worst' slamburger, cause what you've said is weaksauce. *strokes rat smugly* Anpu posted:I’ve been mafia-ing the whole time. i see what you're saying here but max has a point re: mmt and meta. i find it interesting you and slamburger both jumped to mmts defence here.
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Jul 11, 2018 17:30
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Jul 11, 2018 17:39
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IcePhoenix posted:Why are you using a rat in scorpion fights? i didn't, some rear end snatched her off me. (i was using my roleplay ~free expression~, which slamburger has found scummy. my five year old niece named her.) why is this a question?
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Jul 11, 2018 17:43
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((Instead of third person, I'm going to RP in first person so it's at least intelligible.)) I shake my head, and let Prudence run free. It was a fun distraction, for a time, but down to business. "I think it's more than reasonable to find suspicion in a reluctance to engage in the game. If you look at how certain unwanted elements approach the initial confusion in games such as these, you may find either overwhelming caution or undue excitement. Overcompensation from one's own guilty conscience." I've never quite had that problem, but then again, I'm more of an enabler than anything. "People who are hesitant to engage or to make clear their murderous intent do deserve some suspicion. People like "Illegally Sober", who come in late, making explicit their own tardiness...##unvote ##vote IS."
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Jul 11, 2018 17:50
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Slamburger posted:AA its hard for me to parse what your criticism means but the reason "passive play" is a (mild) scum tell for me is this: I get that in theory, but you can't have sincerely wanted people to vote whom they thought was scum because its d1 and that was fairly early on. If anyone had concrete conviction that a player was scum. Those would be far more telling leaves, no? I don't consider your game to be a credible means of evaluating passive play. Because even flirting engagement with it is non-telling given that it is in no way a mechanical addition to the game. You're pretty much evaluating flavor contribution.
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Jul 11, 2018 17:52
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Slamburger posted:AA its hard for me to parse what your criticism means but the reason "passive play" is a (mild) scum tell for me is this: you are essentially saying that if people didn't pick people they thought were scum in the way you wanted, then you found that scummy. i voted you, and cased anpu, but you find me the most suspicious because i didn't want to engage the way you wanted, ie in a game were animals fight each other. you're ignoring the content for the form it comes in. GeneX posted:
i'm very happy with my slamburger vote at the moment, but sober is in this game? come tell us your thoughts sober.
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Jul 11, 2018 18:00
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Being someone who creates their own in-game implements to assess alignment, I'll admit that slamburger's game isn't a tell, but is just not as useful as they think it is. ##unvote
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Jul 11, 2018 18:06
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:I get that in theory, but you can't have sincerely wanted people to vote whom they thought was scum because its d1 and that was fairly early on. I didn't tell people to post some detailed case, I just asked them to vote. Yes its D1 these votes wouldn't matter. But its an opinion, its to get them on the record. Its also a very low barrier to entry. Being hesitant to do this is a scum tell. Period. I'm not trying to solve the game based on how people played my mini game. My primary goal was to add something fun into otherwise boring D1 play. If I feel I can extract some light reads, great, which is what I'm trying to do. Tto throw your hands in the air and be like "there's no possible information to be gained from this at all! what a waste of time!" is a Bad Opinion. Atomic Soda posted:you are essentially saying that if people didn't pick people they thought were scum in the way you wanted, then you found that scummy. I'm saying I wanted people to vote for someone in order to play my game. People such as yourself that passively indicated interest in playing without voting for someone are scummy, yes, thats my argument.
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Jul 11, 2018 18:17
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Being someone who creates their own in-game implements to assess alignment, I'll admit that slamburger's game isn't a tell, but is just not as useful as they think it is. "About as useful as the combination of lurking and hesitance to non-serious vote can be." Which wasn't very much, I think, but it was certainly a start. "Also," I glance in Ninth's direction, "asking us to clash with those we found suspicious was overly ambitious. To the point that I ignored the request entirely, having no particular suspicions at the time." I smile. It was an interesting attempt at teasing reads out of people. "I think it was a clever plan, but ignored our general inclination towards chaos. After all, we're not much for the law."
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Jul 11, 2018 18:18
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Atomic Soda posted:i didn't, some rear end snatched her off me. that's an awfully aggressive response to a silly question
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Fact List: AA - TOWN Gut-Call List: To be revised as reads change Slamburger - TOWN
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