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Fart City posted:Like a really, really big containment unit. England tried that once, it didn't work out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRRw1ERj2Gc
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Fargin Icehole posted:I guess we're not getting that Usual Suspects sequel then? What, is Christopher Plummer suddenly not available?
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Chili posted:What, is Christopher Plummer suddenly not available? This will never not make me giggle.
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I thought I'd be tired of Christopher Plummer jokes by now, but that one was 
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What do Christophe Plummer jokes and Kevin Spacey’s taste in guys have in common? They never get old
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More women have come forward against Luc Besson. A second woman accused him of sexual assault, and two other women told the French website Mediapart that Besson "behaved inappropriately" with them, with one actress claiming she had to escape from a casting in his Paris office on her hands and knees.
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Henry Cavill is a loving idiot. https://twitter.com/HelenRPrice/status/1017061080785440770?s=20
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The really lovely part is that a lot of gross dudes are reading that and going "Hell yeah you tell'em Hank" and seeing it as more validation for their lovely worldview.
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GrandpaPants posted:The really lovely part is that a lot of gross dudes are reading that and going "Hell yeah you tell'em Hank" and seeing it as more validation for their lovely worldview.
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Wendell posted:Henry Cavill is a loving idiot. Hmm, so according to Henry Cavill, you can't rape an ex-girlfriend? I wonder what his ex's have to say about that.
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ruddiger posted:Hmm, so according to Henry Cavill, you can't rape an ex-girlfriend? I wonder what his ex's have to say about that. That's not even close to what he said.
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Jul 12, 2018 18:46
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If we do a charitable reading what I think he was clumsily trying to express is the old adage that it's very difficult to date as a celebrity. Still really bad and weird. 
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SimonCat posted:That's not even close to what he said. I was just being exaggeratingly incisive, but he is implying that whatever lovely thing that can be misconstrued for something a rapist might say can be said without fear of reprisals to an ex, which is pretty hosed up, and does call into question what he thinks is and isn't appropriate behavior.
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He’s also implying that if he’s sexually frustrated, he can call up an ex and any/all of his exes will come crawling back at his whim (heh, the dumb sluts)
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Probably worth noting that his last girlfriend was 19 and he was 33 when they dated.
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Paragon8 posted:Probably worth noting that his last girlfriend was 19 and he was 33 when they dated. You know what the best part of dating nineteen year olds? There’s nine of ‘em 
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I mean, Cavill is probably as dumb as a bag of rocks but he seems to be saying that if you're a celebrity it opens you up to things like that but an ex-girlfriend knows you well enough to know you're not trying to creep on her.
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The full context of the interview makes it come off a little bit better, but not by much. But I 100% understand where he's coming from w/r/t the chase and the way culture has romanticized that for so long, and the world is changing now so how we court people is changing. His wording is awful tho and it has next to nothing to do with the #MeToo movement and more to do with how the times are a'changing. He just comes off really tone deaf when I think what he was actually trying to say is a lot less bad/creepy or whatever. Like 'I don't want to be labeled a rapist for hitting on a woman' is just a loving dumb thing to say, celebrity or not, even if I get what he was going for. If he'd just kept it at 'Dating is hard enough as a celebrity and I don't know what the hell is an appropriate way to approach women any more, so I find myself saying gently caress it I guess I'll get back together with someone I already know even if that relationship crashed and burned last time' it would read a lot less lovely than '#MeToo makes it hard for me to date women' or whatever the gently caress he ended up spewing out lmao
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The hot takes on this are terrible. When you're confident, and approach a woman, there's a very thin line between too aggressive and not, especially since pick-up style flirtation often involves reading into reactions and intensifying your approach or lowering it based on those reactions. He's saying it's too much of a risk now, as a celebrity, to do that with random women, and hell just go back to people that he already knows he's okay with it/that he can be direct with. I've been seeing this sentiment a lot from men who were more in the pick up culture as opposed to chasing relationships. And it means less margin for error and this less harrassment, so it's a net positive. Darko fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Jul 13, 2018 |
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As a counterpoint, I've seen women touch Cavill in ways he would be #metooed about immediately, especially since he didn't really want that kind of attention at the time. So the movement is part of the reaction, just as much as the changing times. He has a career to lose for what women and men consistently do out of just not respecting or understanding personal space, which can often get convoluted.
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Snowman_McK posted:Can you really not see the massive gap between someone exagerrating their characterisitics in a drunken conversation ('I pretty much invented that') and deliberately misleading someone about WHAT YOUR JOB IS and HOW YOU KNOW THEM for YEARS? Hasn't this standard been used in Israel to persecute Palestinians? "He said he was Jewish!"
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Charlz Guybon posted:Hasn't this standard been used in Israel to persecute Palestinians? "He said he was Jewish!" wtf does that have to do with anything
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Hat Thoughts posted:wtf does that have to do with anything The topic was lying and consent, so I brought up an instance of the law saying that lying negates consent and the results.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Hasn't _______ been used in Israel to persecute Palestinians? The answer is probably yes.
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Anyways, to get back more on topic, this is super hosed up https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/jul/12/mira-sorvino-casting-director-gagged-me-with-a-condom-at-16
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Charlz Guybon posted:The topic was lying and consent, so I brought up an instance of the law saying that lying negates consent and the results. obviously gently caress israel(occupied palestine) & all but just seems like ur generalizing concepts to an absurd degree to compare 2 completely different situations with completely different contexts. U may disagree but...that would be incorrect
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Honestly, it seems to me that the best thing to do for the fears of false accusations and ambiguous consent is to just drag more of the dirty laundry out into the open to force people to think and talk about it and the forms that sexual harassment, assault and exploitation take. That and start to overhaul the whole way that society treats sex from the ground up, but that's obviously going to be hard.
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This is also super hosed up: https://www.refinery29.com/arden-myrin-harassment-female-comedian-sexist-jokes The creep in question has at least copped to it, albeit in a rather unsatisfying apology: https://twitter.com/brendonwalsh/status/1017519690359320576
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GrandpaPants posted:This is also super hosed up: https://www.refinery29.com/arden-myrin-harassment-female-comedian-sexist-jokes Ah I dunno, he's apologised to her, I don't think he needs to apologise to anyone else for it. I mean if she comes out and says his apology was bullshit or whatever then fine but I'm so over people just getting endlessly dragged at this point for not grovelling enough (Not saying you, but those twitter replies).
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GrandpaPants posted:This is also super hosed up: https://www.refinery29.com/arden-myrin-harassment-female-comedian-sexist-jokes I don’t even get how this is a joke
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i think its funny he said https://twitter.com/brendonwalsh/status/1017520122171252736 like she didn't get it when if he paid attention 2 her writing he'd notice she said quote:Even though the tone at this particular show was experimental and loose, and the men who introduced me were playing the parts of boorish characters, the effect is the same. It is misogyny hiding behind irony. And if you don’t roll with the punches, you look uptight.
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Ex-athletes say Ohio State doc groped, ogled men for years. The Curious case of Dr. Jelly Paws https://apnews.com/355629efdd91432aadfca6d6b28c170c/Ex-athletes-say-Ohio-State-doc-groped,-ogled-men-for-years Woman who accused Justin Trudeau of groping her 18 years ago speaks for first time https://www.yahoo.com/gma/woman-accused-justin-trudeau-groping-her-18-years-082003518--abc-news-topstories.html Ex-Playmate files lawsuit against former RNC official over hush-money agreement http://thehill.com/homenews/news/395864-ex-playmate-files-lawsuit-against-former-rnc-financial-official-for-breaking DeimosRising posted:I don’t even get how this is a joke Sounds like he was doing a tribute to Tony Clifton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ePe7Q_zH1c
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Hat Thoughts posted:i think its funny he said Oh I uh...get it, I guess
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DeimosRising posted:Oh I uh...get it, I guess I think where you might be getting hung up is that to you it might seem like he made incredibly sexist comments that highlight just how often women are degraded & otherized for their gender - but what you're missing is that he is intentionally, making a choice to say incredibly sexist comments that highlight just how often women are degraded & otherized for their gender.
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I do not understand why all this hysteria and fear coming from men about "being called a rapist if you approach a woman"? Especially coming from a handsome and rich bloke like Cavil? Me and my friends love to party and travel and we have been to clubs and concerts from all over the globe from Rio to Beirut to Bali. I am not american and the situation for me appears simple and does not require hundreds of essays stating an obvious thing. Approach a woman confidently and normally and you can tell in the first minute if she enjoys your presence or not you withdrew and do not take it personally. I do not understand why this is hard?
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Darko posted:As a counterpoint, I've seen women touch Cavill in ways he would be #metooed about immediately, especially since he didn't really want that kind of attention at the time. cavill seems like one of the last guys on earth who would have a difficult time telling if a woman was into him or not. but i do get your point. i'm no looker but i'm in good shape and more than once at parties i've been inappropriately touched (things like women coming up behind me and reaching under my shirt to feels my abs). when i've told guy friends about it they roll their eyes and act like i'm all woe is me. but if i'm not interested in someone i don't want to be touched by them and it's silly we give a pass to it. tho that wasn't what cavill was talking about. Savy Saracen salad posted:I do not understand why all this hysteria and fear coming from men about "being called a rapist if you approach a woman"? Especially coming from a handsome and rich bloke like Cavil? exactly. it makes no sense. Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 14:08 on Jul 14, 2018 |
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