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JawnV6 posted:right click on the dock icon oh my god
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The Management posted:window management is never going to be fixed in macOS. that’s just our reality. workspaces is great though. I don’t know how people can live without it it's entirely unnecessary in windows.
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Jul 13, 2018 21:35
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window management is absolute loving trash in windows. personal favourite: the modal dialogue box that blocks input to the parent window but pops up behind the parent and has no tab index or preview.
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Jul 13, 2018 21:41
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infernal machines posted:window management is absolute loving trash in windows. and yet it's far superior to macos.
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Jul 13, 2018 21:46
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Fiedler posted:and yet it's far superior to macos. it's a low bar with no real incentive to work on
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Jul 13, 2018 21:48
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GenJoe posted:oh my god
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Jul 13, 2018 21:53
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Fiedler posted:workspaces is a poor workaround to proper windowing support in the os, but it's better than nothing, i suppose. i maximize my apps and three finger swipe between them. floating windows are for suckers
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Jul 13, 2018 21:59
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Fiedler posted:and yet it's far superior to macos. it's loving garbage, second only to gnome 3 when they removed minimizing
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Jul 13, 2018 22:21
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ur supposed to abuse virtual desktops with gnome 3. works better with workspace restricted alt-tab behaviour
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Jul 13, 2018 22:26
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macOS > gnome3 > windings
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Jul 13, 2018 22:27
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JawnV6 posted:lol srsly I right click dock stuff all the time to make new windows or to do whatever contextual right clicky actions each app makes available there. I guess I never slowed down enough to read every item in that menu and realize there's a listing of open windows at the top, my brain just filtered all that out as cruft Windows is a little more discoverable about this because it's an actual visual representation of a stack of windows so it's super obvious you can navigate through different windows inside of it.
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Jul 13, 2018 22:53
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you can also click the Window menu item to see hidden smaller windows
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Jul 13, 2018 22:55
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GenJoe posted:a hugely annoying thing: if you have a larger window that completely overlaps a smaller window (both in the same application) there is no way to access the smaller window (or to even be able to tell that the smaller window exists) without physically minimizing/moving around the bigger window. the F3 menu is trash and is not a suitable mechanism for hunting down the window u want, and god help you if there are multiple overlaps going on press ctrl+down. you can customize this in mission control system preferences, and you can also configure mission control to group windows by application
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Jul 13, 2018 23:02
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before it was turned into mission control, application window exposé used to have a default function key on the keyboard next to the main exposé key, but i don't remember what it was
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Jul 13, 2018 23:04
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oh, the exposé keys were F9 and F10. good times
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Jul 13, 2018 23:06
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the "Show All Windows" menu is hugely bad for my common use case of having 13 different windows open and having to search through them for a specific one. it spreads everything out too much and is displeasurable to scan through. right-click dock menu is needs suiting though, thank you for the helpful tip
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Jul 13, 2018 23:07
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bitch that's not even a third of how many windows i have open
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Jul 13, 2018 23:08
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Toady posted:bitch that's not even a third of how many windows i have open this sounds very stressful. maybe you should work to limit your # of windows open before things get out of hand
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Jul 13, 2018 23:11
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stay out of my private life
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Jul 13, 2018 23:12
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"this window management sucks" *hunts through 50 one-character wide tabs to find one open to youtube*
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Jul 13, 2018 23:13
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also, if you're like me and have 200 terminals in same-name directories: echo -n -e "\033]0;TITLE GOES HERE\007" makes it easier to search the window list
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Jul 13, 2018 23:14
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tree style tabs tho
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Jul 13, 2018 23:14
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GenJoe posted:the "Show All Windows" menu is hugely bad for my common use case of having 13 different windows open and having to search through them for a specific one. it spreads everything out too much and is displeasurable to scan through. i'm the 10 identical word and pdf windows you can't tell apart
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Jul 13, 2018 23:27
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GenJoe posted:oh my god haha also 4 finger up-swipe
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Jul 14, 2018 01:14
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remember when expose came out and win 7 (?) cloned it with win-tab but stacked all of them so you could only see like 10% of the window and only showed like 10 windows lol now jony going to put pics of all ur apps in the magic taskbar
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Jul 14, 2018 01:44
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does anyone use the color tags / labels? I remember really liking that in system 7 when I was like 8 but I forgot it was a thing
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Jul 14, 2018 02:05
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:does anyone use the color tags / labels? I remember really liking that in system 7 when I was like 8 but I forgot it was a thing it was real good op
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Jul 14, 2018 02:10
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apple: we've improved finder everyone: finally they're fixing that piece of poo poo apple: lol jk here's cover flow v2
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Jul 14, 2018 02:17
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https://ifixit.org/blog/10279/apple-macbook-keyboard-cover-up/ Tim: “Put a rubber on it. Ticket closed.”
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Jul 14, 2018 02:52
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lmfao did they really think people weren’t going to find out about the integrated keyboard condom immediately
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Jul 14, 2018 04:16
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i use both windows and maxos and idk they're both fine i dont know how you guys gently caress it up so much the only reaaaallll annoying thing about any of them is that in macos it can be quite confusing that minimising or whatever you call it doesn't then switch control to the last (and hence topmost) program used like how a program can still be in focus but have no windows up. thats a horrriibbllle UI design and it makes no sense whatsoever not focused windows on anything should be blurred slightly unless thre is a mouseover making it obvious what window has focus is something that has fallen out of favour for gently caress knows why
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Jul 14, 2018 04:19
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echinopsis posted:like how a program can still be in focus but have no windows up. thats a horrriibbllle UI design and it makes no sense whatsoever a Mac app doesn’t (usually) exit when it has no windows open. the current context is that of the menu bar. you can close a window and still be “in” the program in that all of your keystrokes affect it (like cmd+n will open a new window)
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Jul 14, 2018 06:20
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I approve of the keyboard condoms if it actually makes the machine more coffee spill resistant. I am sceptical of how long it would last until plastic parts start cutting through the membranes though. But I bet they deliberately didn't try to seal the top case, because it's much more fun to bilk your customers for $3k in repairs whenever someone knocks a glass over. [edit] watched the ifixit video a couple of times, the gasket is full of perforations for the hinges and center of the key  ...maybe the keyboard has to be ventilated because it's the only place left for the cooling system to desperately try sucking some air fromr u ready to WALK fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Jul 14, 2018 |
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Jul 14, 2018 07:40
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The Management posted:a Mac app doesn’t (usually) exit when it has no windows open. the current context is that of the menu bar. you can close a window and still be “in” the program in that all of your keystrokes affect it (like cmd+n will open a new window) yeah i don’t mind that the program is open, as if i minimiaed something in windows , that program in windows doesn’t retain focus it’s fuckin moronic yo
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Jul 14, 2018 07:45
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The Management posted:a Mac app doesn’t (usually) exit when it has no windows open. the current context is that of the menu bar. you can close a window and still be “in” the program in that all of your keystrokes affect it (like cmd+n will open a new window) the "just a menu bar" scenario must be extremely important because they've kept it around forever and it confuses roughly everyone.
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Jul 14, 2018 08:03
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it's left up to each app to decide what to do. the modern convention is to terminate when the main window is closed. apps can also have appkit automatically close the app when it determines it's appropriate to do so. e.g., if you close every window in Pages and then switch to a different app, Pages usually automatically quits
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Jul 14, 2018 08:24
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Toady posted:it's left up to each app to decide what to do. the modern convention is to terminate when the main window is closed. apps can also have appkit automatically close the app when it determines it's appropriate to do so. e.g., if you close every window in Pages and then switch to a different app, Pages usually automatically quits that’s super dumb
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Jul 14, 2018 09:28
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historical poo poo mostly. microsoft was quicker to drop the mdi model they had as an equivalent though (to some extent no doubt because it was even worse)
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fart simpson posted:that’s super dumb dsyp
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