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Max posted:I think Anpu is one of those weathervane players that has a really unconventional style that bucks a lot of assumptions about logical play and draws attention just by being him. He reminds me of Tobbs at the moment. i don't get the tobbs ref sorry. anyway this doesn't really tell me why you think he's town though. like, scum make bad arguments just as much as bad town do.
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 01:47 |
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 03:17 |
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Beetphyxious posted:a day 2 lurker lynch seems kinda weak I wouldn’t say that. I spent of today certain he was town and had some sort of result so i’m having a hard time processing this. ##unvote
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 01:58 |
Beetphyxious posted:i don't get the tobbs ref sorry. Scum are usually a lot more cautious about their reads and arguments. Also if I’m right and caught his breadcrumb correctly, he did it in a clever way that I don’t see scum doing.
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 02:05 |
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Max posted:Scum are usually a lot more cautious about their reads and arguments. people also say scum lurk so we get lurker lynches regularly and we rarely get scum. people say lots of things, not all of it holds up to be true. i don't feel the argument that 'scum wouldn't do that' is sufficient to clear anyone honestly. also i don't believe town who feel the need to breadcrumb. building in a prepared 'fall back' comes across kind of scummy, why do town need backup? if push comes to shove and you need to claim to save yourself, imo a breadcrumb doesn't aid this it hinders this. the fact you needed to plan so early on that you're going to be a lynch candidate reeks of scum thinking. why are you worried about being lynched at the start of the game? (this is another patented beet opinion like my bus driver opinions.) anyway i feel i gave my reasoning as to why anpu came out strong and has played like he has today. to reiterate : the heat was on him yesterday and he wouldn't know if it had died down today, so to avoid the risk of becoming a target for day 2 you find a better target than yourself. so what better target than me (mmt), someone who was nearly a lynch candidate yesterday. go back and read the start of the day, the literal first post is suspicion on me and he slowly ramps it up overtime and unwaveringly to a vote and starts trying to tie me together with others (eg monathin) for a chain lynch. That's not townie behaviour nor is it logical play. It's calculated with a dash of desperation. and if he succeeded in getting me lynched today, he can just shrug it off tomorrow as being 'wrong' and people will come along and say 'well scum wouldn't be that overt, would they? he must be telling the truth'
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 02:20 |
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oh look i forgot to talk about people bread crumbing to find a specific counterpart role, but i've seen that end hilariously bad too so the cost / benefit analysis on that is not looking good based on my sample size of 1: my personal mafia experience. so all in all i dont think breadcrumbing is a great townie defense for the reasons stated above
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 02:25 |
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Max posted:I've tried backing off on posting up a storm like I was day 1 because I think I dominated a lot in a way that hindered discussion and wanted to leave room for people to talk today. I don't know what to say about a watcher watching me or not, but I will say SOMEONE visited me because I received some extra flavor. interesting that you got flavour for a visit. i also am suss of dancer, who seems to be dropping in to make sure he's added a bit of content and then disappearing. Beetphyxious posted:i'm super postive anpu is scum, as i've spent the last 48 or so hours laying out argument after argument. so anpu then i could see a moat vote also but i'd rather not if there are other options re: anpu, i lean against scum but haven't ruled out 3p. can't be sure aa visited scum, could be he just got murdered and we have an sk also. this may be a bit much tho for the size of this game. leaving my vote as is for now.
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 02:28 |
Yeah dancer came in strong a few hours ago but up and left again so that sucks
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 02:31 |
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Beetphyxious posted:oh look i forgot to talk about people bread crumbing to find a specific counterpart role, but i've seen that end hilariously bad too so the cost / benefit analysis on that is not looking good based on my sample size of 1: my personal mafia experience. agree i never breadcrumb, i have no subtlety beet can you give any other scum reads? your tunnelling of anpu (i know i know) is the most scummy thing you've done today afaic Max posted:Yeah dancer came in strong a few hours ago but up and left again so that sucks he did this yesterday just after ppl started calling him out, would vote
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 02:40 |
Same on dancer
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 02:40 |
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Atomic Soda posted:agree i never breadcrumb, i have no subtlety ugh i did a bunch of reads when i got here and have then been head butting apnu tunnelling me ever since . i've not really had the energy or mental acuity to case others, as i am pretty chuffed with my case on apnu and will continue to angle on that hoping to sway others to the dodgyiness however, i'll see if i can jump again through this same hoop that max gave me at the start of the day
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 02:48 |
1 hour to deadline, fyi
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 02:56 |
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dancer was just mentioned so i'll start there. please enjoy my lit review: i like dancer because they want to lynch apnu. they also have the second lowest votes (tnl has the lowest) day 1 is them joking a bit. self voting, forgetting it's there for quite some time. the joking comes off someone self-conscious, but it was prompted by apnu's general questioning of peoples abilities (which as an aside was a great content generator and a way to look helpful on day 1.) they then came out and made a post casing b-minus. it's a bit odd as there's a whole lot of waffle / disclaimer at the start of the post as to excuses for why they are not posting enough which is because their is too much noise, say he's outright avoided the discussion as to why slam's minigame was scummy but says they find it suss too, then cases b-minus. says he likes aa summarising slams case, then catches up on the flurry of posts and goes from finding aa rather townie to finding aa rather scummy. i don't think dancer was alone in this but it's just a bit wishy washy on the readback. dancer pointed out the oddity of apnu coming straight out and mentioning bus driver w/r/t AA's night kill. goes back to b-minus for a vote, cases b-minus again on one or two things i raised. hmm look dancers wishy / washy and disclaimer posts about not being super present i don't like. it's not a super tell though. also they're fairly consistent with their suspicion on b-minus. the most suss thing dancer has done is just the not be present enough and some drive by posting. i don't feel dancer is a good candidate for a lynch.
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:01 |
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Max posted:1 hour to deadline, fyi faark
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:02 |
Maybe if I summon him like beetlejuice he will come back. ##unvote Dancer Dancer ##vote Dancer
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:03 |
Kill lurkers now imo so we don't have to worry about wrangling their vote in the coming game days because oh boy is it fun scrambling at the last minute two days in a row.
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:04 |
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Beetphyxious posted:ugh i did a bunch of reads when i got here and have then been head butting apnu tunnelling me ever since . that's a fair comment, though i thought maybe your reads may have changed through the course of today. from what you posted earlier i see you were suss on most of them. Beetphyxious posted:Lunch break. i also saw you had suspicions of tnl Beetphyxious posted:oh found it, but a quick aside are you still feeling this? sorry for the mass quotes!
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:05 |
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the ninth layer, actually i did make a mini case on tnl already. Beetphyxious posted:oh found it, but a quick aside but again, that case paints apnu in just as bad as a light, so lets extract that for a moment. where the gently caress is tnl today? why did tnl stop role playing just to stick up for anpu and then completely disappear today. i'll fall out of my seat if tnl pops out to defend apnu again would grudgingly vote tnl if we can't swing apnu
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:07 |
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Atomic Soda posted:that's a fair comment, though i thought maybe your reads may have changed through the course of today. from what you posted earlier i see you were suss on most of them. lol timing. watch out, anpu will be onto you
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:07 |
It's so weird watching my arguments from yesterday play out again today and wonder why no one listened to me yesterday and what makes that different from today.
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:09 |
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whoops dang you type fast beet!Beetphyxious posted:lol timing. heh did you read yesterday? :p
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:10 |
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i'm doing the lurkers first because lurking is also one of beet's mafia pet peeves™ and it's easier for me to get through their posts in the limited time we have left
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:11 |
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Max posted:It's so weird watching my arguments from yesterday play out again today and wonder why no one listened to me yesterday and what makes that different from today. what arguments were they?
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:11 |
Did you read day 1 or not?
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:12 |
My biggest issue was his continued insistence to make what looked like factual statements with out any actual quotes or scrutiny of gameplay. Just "this person is scum because they are" which I took major issue with and posted a lot about and should have been 50% of what you read.
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:14 |
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Max posted:Did you read day 1 or not? gently caress, yes max i did, i have a hell of a lot in my head now and i'm trying to do cases on demand after being blinded by apnu your arguments i remember were dominated by your fight with apnu based on them gunning you from you prompting mmt. you then pushed apnu for reasoning on their scum list / hunting and it was super hard to get it out of them, you made a very particular comment to that effect. you also calling apnu out for not providing quotes of evidence for scum hunting i also remember because i made a joke to it. i'm asking you what arguments for the sake of convenience at this point, because i'm playing this and another game with the same deadline.
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:15 |
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Max posted:It's so weird watching my arguments from yesterday play out again today and wonder why no one listened to me yesterday and what makes that different from today. Your call on MMT was absolutely accurate. I originally thought it opportunistic scum using meta casing but once I realised you were sincere I understood you had it 100% correct. From that Beetphyxious would have to work very hard to appear town, or work to discredit you. To his detriment he attempted the latter, then further buried himself by going after me. He rebutted you for two reasons, one to make your judgement appear flawed, and two to attempt to push from the outset as interested in towns good will. Everything he has done this day is false, and I do not Trust a word from his mouth.
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:16 |
I don't really either but we have 40 minutes and I don't think Beet is happening tonight.
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:19 |
Who's even here?
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:19 |
More blood for the blood god.
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:21 |
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monathin and icephoenix are here aside from ppl posting
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:21 |
That's fascinating ##unvote ##vote Icephoenix
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:22 |
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except i didn't discredit him, i just said bus drivers are bad and had a discussion to that effect. you've tried to misrepresent that discussion twice now. first as me 'sowing chaos' and now as an attempt to discredit max. which is it apnu?
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:22 |
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I curse Monathin. I have words for Flerp, I hope I can maybe heal the rift between us.
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:22 |
Beetphyxious posted:except i didn't discredit him, i just said bus drivers are bad and had a discussion to that effect. This is a pointless exchange right now, stop it and do the reads. Anpu can't blind you if you don't allow yourself to be blinded.
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:23 |
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Beetphyxious posted:except i didn't discredit him, i just said bus drivers are bad and had a discussion to that effect. Both. Very clearly both.
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:23 |
Kill the lurking scum who are watching the thread closely but saying nothing.
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:23 |
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Max posted:Kill the lurking scum who are watching the thread closely but saying nothing. that sounds most like moat tbh
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:24 |
Not if you look at the "who is currently viewing this sub-forum" tab.
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:25 |
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Max posted:Not if you look at the "who is currently viewing this sub-forum" tab. oh i forgot about that forbidden technique
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 03:30 |
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 03:17 |
IcePhoenix posted:it's shitpost day and there's still like 40 hours to go IcePhoenix posted:Octopath Traveler is really good, sorry. I promise to put in more effort from work tomorrow IcePhoenix posted:I don't work at night, there will be plenty of time. I don't like this pattern.
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