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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:well bright side is if you're deadlocking your db with incomplete transactions or whatever that means you should be immune to someone accidentally dropping your prod db like that other guy That would be a pretty straight forward explanation, but since it's affecting multiple separate databases I'm thinking it's more like the ghost of Sybase is coming to punish us further for using their lovely database engine. It already has a habit of exploding with errors like "Unable to access page (null)" which blows up the entire service and takes down every database running on it. Rebuild the database as much as you want, poo poo just keeps happening. Although everything locking up (can't even log into any of the databases) is a new one.
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Toady posted:why are there two terrible programming threads
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Jul 17, 2018 18:14
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ComradeCosmobot posted:
that's what you think 
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Jul 17, 2018 18:16
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also the other programming thread is for people who are Never Wrong to post at each other, this one is for us peons
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Jul 17, 2018 18:17
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actually the other programming thread is just maven mailing list
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Jul 17, 2018 18:21
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terrible programmer here 🙋♂️🐱👓
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Jul 17, 2018 18:28
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cinci zoo sniper posted:im just being terrible coworker and audibly giggling as the fallout from deleted prod database seeps in like is that it? end of the company?
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Jul 17, 2018 18:34
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JawnV6 posted:why do you need a magnetometer at all? so that the compass knows which way it's pointing, and then (along with its gps coords and those obtained from goog maps) can turn the arrow to point the right direction. in theory. given that i'm doing it the odd lunchtime here and there i aim to be complete in 10 years or so. then i'll start on the drone/amateur rocketry dream which is why i'm doing all this poo poo in the first place
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gonadic io posted:like is that it? end of the company? nah, it’s a new recently launched product that is our attempt to expand into a different field of our industry, so it’s not the end of the world by any means. worst case scenario we will incur direct losses in low six digits of usd - in case the nightly backup was yet another spur of the moment lie or unfinished feature too early to tell right now since when we discovered the problem it was 9pm in our it timezone it’s just funny, in a sad way, to watch crisis scenario happen after being softly told to gently caress off with process improvement proposal aimed at remediation of such problems
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Jul 17, 2018 18:39
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another cjs: our developers on a different product don’t know why double digit % of records in one of they key tables of their database have their updated_at field changed each night when the records otherwise are unaltered
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Jul 17, 2018 18:42
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cinci zoo sniper posted:another cjs: our developers on a different product don’t know why double digit % of records in one of they key tables of their database have their updated_at field changed each night when the records otherwise are unaltered sounds like a nightly backup process to me 
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Jul 17, 2018 18:46
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ctps: about to get murdered in this meeting. basically, i set up our sso configuration a while back. i did the needful. however, our entire authentication/user model just doesn't work with sso and i've been very clear that the system is super messy and really not ready for actual users. annnnyhow, a major client is getting on-boarded and it turns out somebody told them we have a functioning enterprise sso system. last status update i gave was "yeah it works for internal users but that's it until somebody tells me to do more work." and i'm getting messages asking "why doesn't it work", etc. (it's not as lovely as it sounds, totally not my fault but i'm not getting blamed, yet). if i werent so checked out i'd be stressed but i just don't give a poo poo. DONT THREAD ON ME fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Jul 17, 2018 |
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Jul 17, 2018 18:52
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cinci zoo sniper posted:it’s just funny, in a sad way, to watch crisis scenario happen after being softly told to gently caress off with process improvement proposal aimed at remediation of such problems agreedo we are all waiting for what manner of fuckup will occur off the back of multiple years of "IT spend too much money you're on a hiring freeze, no replacememts" which means that we have multiple globally critical apps supported by literally one person that knows what they're doing and if they're lucky maybe a grad or intern already there was one semi critical fuckup attributed to "steve was on holiday" lol
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Jul 17, 2018 18:53
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yep this sucks
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Jul 17, 2018 19:08
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It took me a little over a year, but this programming baby finally broke the baseline.
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cjs: Handling a corner case where a user logs in, but isn't in the vendor's database, so the API call to get their details returns null. Can't figure out why my "if (vendorId == null)" check isn't working. Turns out our code "handles" this situation by creating a fake, empty user details object with the ID set to "-NONE-". I just got rid of that empty object altogether and everything works fine. Edit: Oh no meant to post this in the cjs thread CPColin fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Jul 17, 2018 |
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Jul 17, 2018 19:13
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CPColin posted:cjs: Handling a corner case where a user logs in, but isn't in the vendor's database, so the API call to get their details returns null. Can't figure out why my "if (vendorId == null)" check isn't working. Turns out our code "handles" this situation by creating a fake, empty user details object with the ID set to "-NONE-". I just got rid of that empty object altogether and everything works fine. are you sure there's not some other component that will break when it receives null instead of a fake user object
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Jul 17, 2018 19:18
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:agreedo we currently also have “our it is being overwhelmed by tasks so we have hired student interns with access to our prod to solve problems” while cto is busy double time to hire as many of his friends into his team and take as many critical developments on them as possible to make him politically irreplaceable before the poo poo of corporate reorganisation hits his fan 
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Jul 17, 2018 19:21
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also we have no docs for anything so if any developer team leader is on vacation then it’s “boss knows but is vacationing” season
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Jul 17, 2018 19:23
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DaTroof posted:are you sure there's not some other component that will break when it receives null instead of a fake user object Not 100%, because this is Groovy and Groovy is poo poo at doing any kind of null analysis, but I'm pretty close to 100% sure, considering the previous developer who wrote this code sprinkled defensive null checks everywhere, despite also being the developer who wrote the code that ensures the details object will never actually be null. Swish! Also if the user isn't in the vendor's database, nothing on the vendor's side is going to work anyway, so whatever.
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Jul 17, 2018 19:29
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cinci zoo sniper posted:also we have no docs for anything so if any developer team leader is on vacation then it’s “boss knows but is vacationing” season at least that skips the step where you look up the doc, read it, and then realize that the actual design has changed completely since then and no one bothered to update the doc
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Jul 17, 2018 19:44
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:at least that skips the step where you look up the doc, read it, and then realize that the actual design has changed completely since then and no one bothered to update the doc have you been reading my specifications?
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Jul 17, 2018 20:06
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:at least that skips the step where you look up the doc, read it, and then realize that the actual design has changed completely since then and no one bothered to update the doc god drat it 
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Jul 17, 2018 20:22
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:at least that skips the step where you look up the doc, read it, and then realize that the actual design has changed completely since then and no one bothered to update the doc and then don't bother to update the doc yourself
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Jul 17, 2018 20:26
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hey hey hey hey get your cutter comp backwards everyday
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Jul 17, 2018 20:28
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gonadic io posted:and then don't bother to update the doc yourself not my job and if i've figured out the real design it's not like i need the doc anymore
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Jul 17, 2018 20:35
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hey computer WHAT how big is a char A CHAR IS 0x001 BIG char *anArray = new char[100]; OK what's &anArray? 0x6000 convenient. what's the address of the first element 0x6000 and the second? 0x6004 wa.... wahat?
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Jul 17, 2018 20:38
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flakeloaf posted:hey computer this makes perfect sense not sure what the issue is.
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:this makes perfect sense not sure what the issue is.
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Jul 17, 2018 20:45
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:not my job and if i've figured out the real design it's not like i need the doc anymore oh gently caress i forgot how this thing actually works why the gently caress did i not write it down last time???
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Jul 17, 2018 20:45
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if i define an array explicitly with char asdf[100], the element[i] of asdf will be i bytes away from wherever asdf[0] is but if i declare it with char *ptrAsdf[100], then element[i] of asdf is 4i bytes away from asdf[0] and that's why i'm confused doubly confused because on onlinegdb both arrays' elements are 1 byte apart the answer is that i'm bad at c++ and i'm cool with that much, i just don't know why i'm getting 2 different answers to the same question
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Jul 17, 2018 20:48
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char *ptrAsdf[100] declares an array of 100 char pointers, which are 32 bits each on your machine
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one of those is an array of chars and the other one is an array of char pointers.
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Jul 17, 2018 20:51
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oh gently caress me thanks i need a break
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Jul 17, 2018 20:52
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always put the * next to the base type, not the variable name! it's part of the type!
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flakeloaf posted:oh gently caress me word
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infinitely more likely to read this thread than the documentation i have wide open on configuring a bunch of poo poo i need to do in python the in python part makes it part of this thread and thats ok
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i really like python ive found it very easy to work with and get stuff done in as long as i never ever have to deploy it outside one specific environment now i have to deploy it outside that env and gotta figure out conda or venvs, cant deploy a full containerized thing
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Share Bear posted:i really like python ive found it very easy to work with and get stuff done in as long as i never ever have to deploy it outside one specific environment 
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lol i waste so much time wondering why i can't hit my servlets before remembering to add host="*" to the server config and each time i forget to check that
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