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He basically vanished from the game entirely after I mentioned it, at least I'm engaging and voting
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IcePhoenix posted:Flerp how do you feel about my case on TNL what is it?
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Jul 19, 2018 01:56
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honestly, didnt have the chance to look thru TNL's posts but i saw ur post history and was like holy moley this is horrendous so i made my case and now im legit about to leave. i can look over TNL tomorrow
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Jul 19, 2018 01:58
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Slamburger posted:"Frozen in time" / "frozen in stasis" were Ecco's full flavor so of all the things wrong with Anpu, this isn't a slip: I dunno I was just really going under the assumption that they were janitored kills so his constant referring to people coming back seemed weird to me
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Jul 19, 2018 01:58
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flerp posted:what is it? You literally quoted it and then just ignored it
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Jul 19, 2018 02:06
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Anpu posted:So I am a scum inventor who also disappears people but I somehow confused my own ability and said frozen instead? 
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Jul 19, 2018 02:24
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flerp posted:ANPU can you please tell me why you think ice phoenix is town and why you think beet is scum? like, give me a good rundown. you dont need to give a huge effort post analyzing their posts, but i want to know what has you so convinced about these two? like, real, honest reasoning vs. just statements of "beet is scum" and "IP is town." please. I think Ice Phoenix is town because he has consistently acted truthfully and brazenly. There is no deceit in him, he says what is and identifies issues. The push on him was a lurker lynch more than anything and I believe the enthusiasm for it came from scum. Also I have a very good feeling about Ice Phoenix’s refusal to claim. I feel scum would have said anything to save themselves, even a bad claim would have the potential to pull votes. Instead Ics Phoenix stood his ground, full of Virtue and unafraid. Beetphyxious is scum because of MMT’s actions. People want to give him the benefit of the doubt but have pulled too far the other way. Max called it out for what it was, and ideally MMT should have been lynched right then and there. Instead Beetphyxious has come in and has failed to do any actual casing. He has butted heads with people for the sake of confusing others and he has whined for One Hundred Posts about my case on him, but has done nothing. People think it is unfair to lynch Beetphyxious because of MMT’s poor play, but it is stupidity itself to allow a clear scum to stay in the game and ignore the evidence before you.
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Jul 19, 2018 02:36
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Jul 19, 2018 02:37
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My town reads are in no order slamburger, Mona and icephoenix. Lean town on flerp and anpu (though it wouldn’t surprise me if you are a 3p). Everyone else scum
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Jul 19, 2018 02:43
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IcePhoenix posted:You literally quoted it and then just ignored it ah a lurker case, v powerful. why tnl over u?
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Jul 19, 2018 02:51
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Anpu posted:What?
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Jul 19, 2018 03:21
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Mafia edit:
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Jul 19, 2018 03:22
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It is a bit late in this game for these sorts of shenanigans. I do not Trust Moatillata.
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Jul 19, 2018 03:23
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Anpu posted:It is a bit late in this game for these sorts of shenanigans. It's true we should all be forthcoming and honest like you
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Jul 19, 2018 03:25
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Moatillata posted:It's true we should all be forthcoming and honest like you I am both of these so yes.
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Jul 19, 2018 03:28
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Anpu posted:I am both of these so yes. 
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Jul 19, 2018 03:33
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flerp posted:ah a lurker case, v powerful. why tnl over u? Are you being intentionally obtuse or is it that hard to actually read my posts? I'm not writing novels like other posters, it's not exactly difficult to sift through them. I'm phone posting so I'm not digging it up but I quote a post by TNL, I call it out, TNL immediately backtracks, then vanishes. A little later I added why I called it out (you quoted this post). The reason I didn't push it yesterday is because I also believe MMbeeT to be scum and so I was happy to get them as well until a bandwagon on me was attempted last minute.
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Jul 19, 2018 03:35
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Yeah beet and tnl are almost certainly scum.
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Jul 19, 2018 03:38
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What did I "backtrack from" again?
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Jul 19, 2018 06:51
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IcePhoenix posted:Honestly my biggest reason for her being at the top of my list was the same thing, she's mentioned before that when she's not town her effort craters because she has trouble "casing" people. Ecco already shared a sample town PM with the word townie bolded. If scum have fakeclaims it's probably in a similar format.
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Jul 19, 2018 06:59
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Basically don't base your suspicion of me on the idea that my role PM might not have the word "townie" bolded in it.
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Jul 19, 2018 07:04
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IcePhoenix posted:Does Ecco's heart thing in the 2P always have a question mark after what I assume are the number of players remaining? it does when it's during the night, and I hadn't updated the OP yet to reflect day 3.
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Jul 19, 2018 07:08
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ok, i had a good night and now i have to deal with this thread again gently caress Anpu posted:I think Ice Phoenix is town because he has consistently acted truthfully and brazenly. There is no deceit in him, he says what is and identifies issues. The push on him was a lurker lynch more than anything and I believe the enthusiasm for it came from scum. Also I have a very good feeling about Ice Phoenix’s refusal to claim. I feel scum would have said anything to save themselves, even a bad claim would have the potential to pull votes. Instead Ics Phoenix stood his ground, full of Virtue and unafraid. i disagree with some of this. i dont really know what you mean by "truthfully and brazenly" because idk how you can know ice phoenix is acting truthfully since you dont know his alignment. and this is still very vague, since it just seems to make large sweeping statements ("there is no deceit in him, he says what is and identifies") without really any justification. but, really, this isnt what really matters, because i just want to ask a question. and please, try to answer it in a way that doesnt say thing like "full of Virtue and unafraid" because im not gonna lie, this game is getting really exhausting when it comes to reading stuff like that. i dont care if it's a gimmick, it isnt funny or fun anymore. anyways, the question: do you believe my case on ice phoenix has any validity? like, are there are any good points you agree with, or is all of it dumb nonsense? do you believe ive mischaracterized what he's said? did you even look through his post history to form your opinion on him? Anpu posted:Beetphyxious is scum because of MMT’s actions. People want to give him the benefit of the doubt but have pulled too far the other way. Max called it out for what it was, and ideally MMT should have been lynched right then and there. Instead Beetphyxious has come in and has failed to do any actual casing. He has butted heads with people for the sake of confusing others and he has whined for One Hundred Posts about my case on him, but has done nothing. it sucks that i had to coax this out of you after so loving long, but hey, at least its an actual real case instead of vague statements. however, i think this is really unfair assessment of beet, especially with the statement of "has failed to do any actual casing." what do you call beet's extensive posts about you? do you not consider that casing, somehow? or do you think because it's targeted at you, it isnt casing?
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Jul 19, 2018 09:36
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IcePhoenix posted:Are you being intentionally obtuse or is it that hard to actually read my posts? I'm not writing novels like other posters, it's not exactly difficult to sift through them. ok, this is fine, i dont think TNL is cleared or isnt scummy, but like, quite frankly, i dont give a poo poo. i have a case on you, and your response is, "BUT LOOK AT TNL HES A LURKER TOO." like, so what. this doesnt change the fact that youve done scummy poo poo. oh you called out a lurker, do you want a gold star and for me to somehow forget all the scummy posts? i dont know what you want me to say about TNL, because yeah, he's lurky son of a gun, but that doesnt have anything to do with my post about you. also ill give the same question i gave to anpu: why do you think beet is scum? you have said you thought mmt/beet was scum for 3 days now, and yet, there's nary a post about why you actually think that aside from the d1 meta post about mmt. and guys, ITS DAY 3!!!! we can make cases better than meta cases!
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Jul 19, 2018 09:42
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b-minus1 posted:Yeah beet and tnl are almost certainly scum. why? guys, PLEASE, PLEASE just explaing your reasoning. mafia isnt just a game of finding the scum, it's also about convincing others to agree with you so you can get everyone to agree on killing the scum. so when you say stuff like this without any reasoning behind it, it doesnt do anything. like, im not asking for huge massive cases like the one i did on icephoenix, but like, bee man, you cant just say this stuff and then leave it at that. explain your thought process. explain why this might be the case. you could be right! you could have solved the game right now! but w/o anything backing it up, i have no reason to agree with you, because i dont know what you're seeing. so please, guys, explain why you think people are scum. its good! it helps town! it wins games! please!!!!!!!!
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Jul 19, 2018 09:46
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Anpu posted:I want to start today with a very sincere apology to Monathin. Looking back over yesterday I have nothing but shame over my behaviour and conduct, and I came to realise Monathin’s frustration was not only genuine but legitimate. EccoRaven posted:IcePhoenix (6): Max, Atomic Soda, Monathin, Beetphyxious, flerp, b-minus1 so who were the scum? or was it just me? do you only have one whole case so far this game?
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Jul 19, 2018 11:59
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Jul 19, 2018 12:00
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The Ninth Layer posted:I sorta forgot I was in this game, reading through the day 2 stuff I missed now. no poo poo.
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Jul 19, 2018 12:04
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IcePhoenix posted:##vote beet i'm gonna come hone in on you today because my frustration at anpu's lack of a case only pales in comparison to your own.
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Jul 19, 2018 12:07
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Just to recap what I've said on IP so far:Beetphyxious posted:Ice Phoenix has just as many posts playing the mini game as they don't, which is sort of lgiht on content however they give more reads than B-minus1 especially on TNL who I want to do next but I'm out of time for now. those cases being: IcePhoenix posted:I don't like this post IcePhoenix posted:Honestly my biggest reason for her being at the top of my list was the same thing, she's mentioned before that when she's not town her effort craters because she has trouble "casing" people. that's it until i subbed in. then he talks about some video game i think, something about being busy, then IcePhoenix posted:Thoughts: something about flavour, lurking and then some role spec about apnu. still disliking tnl IcePhoenix posted:TNL I was already a little suss on though so that's a good callout imo IcePhoenix posted:Would still also vote tnl but I doubt that's happening today which is all well and good, except ice phoenix in 3 days now still has not picked any new targets nor actually provided and real cases or thoughts at to why he's on those two. tnl is an easy case to make, especially for scum and my current thought is maybe tnl is a convenient bus for IP to fall back on. IcePhoenix posted:##vote beet theatrics. painfully so. so at this point i'm gonna jump to slams post: Slamburger posted:So we're on Day 3 now and your vote is on beet, the reasons for which you've given as: IcePhoenix posted:So? Most of that is just arguing with Anpu. Quantity =/= quality. Very town behaviour here, completely unwilling to expand on his argument (or lack thereof) or even justify it beyond the same argument based solely on meta. ip has no argument, admits he has no argument, refuses to expand on it any further (because there is no argument) it's like those russian nesting dolls of lovely casing. take apnu off the top and there's icephoenix hiding underneath then finally there's a change in strategy from IP after being repeatedly poked about it: IcePhoenix posted:Flerp how do you feel about my case on TNL oh look it's tnl again. that's original. and when flerp couldn't read ip's mind he got a bit cranky: IcePhoenix posted:Are you being intentionally obtuse or is it that hard to actually read my posts? I'm not writing novels like other posters, it's not exactly difficult to sift through them. sorry IP, no one can read minds. it's mafia, if you have a case then make it. people aren't going to agree with you if you can't elaborate it yourself and make them do all the work. that last post is the only evidence of your cases evolving over 3 bloody days! you're still on your day 1 targets for the same day 1 reasons until that post! so my gut currently is apnu, tnl, ip for scum team, tnl being bussed because they're too absent for some reason. would vote any of those three (and in that order)
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Jul 19, 2018 12:30
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Beet, how do you feel about Moat?
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Jul 19, 2018 12:42
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You don't have to read my mind beet, just my posts
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Jul 19, 2018 13:07
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okay deep diving into tnl because i've named them, but unfortunately i can't expand my case much further than yesterday as there hasn't been that much posting i've called out the RP post earlier as have others, and i'll raise again what sparked my interest yesterday in tnl: the first post to break tnl's roleplaying (aside from a technical confirmation of a mafia edit) was to defend apnu. i kind of find it hard to get past that, which is probably why i'm lumping him in with apnu and icephoenix, idk if that's unfairly so, though? anyway: The Ninth Layer posted:I sorta forgot I was in this game, reading through the day 2 stuff I missed now. this i found odd considering the effort tnl had put into roleplaying his character i can't easily believe he just 'forgot'. it's a tad dismissive, idk, maybe there's real world poo poo The Ninth Layer posted:Sorry everyone I've been trying to work up an appetite for posting but my mafia playing motivation is at a real low right now. I would ask for a replacement if it wasn't day 3. I'll do my best to step it up. okay could be real world poo poo i guess. anyway finally some casing and effort. to unpack it quickly, it's not super bad. comments in bold The Ninth Layer posted:I'll just post the reads I have, none of them are particularly strong, and to be honest I still don't have a real idea of who I want to vote for. while i'm suss on tnl, in putting this post together i wondered if it might be unfair, because if i was to put aside the role playing and lurking the only thing i've got is my rough association of tnl to apnu and ip to tnl. and to be honest, that last tnl post i quoted has more effort in it than anything apnu (since i joined the game) and IP (since, well this whole game) have done.
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Jul 19, 2018 14:57
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Slamburger posted:Beet, how do you feel about Moat? Quick read is that I was suss on them yesterday because they didn't really put in an argument, just seemed to be jumping on the easy vote, however I didn't engage them much because I can only pick so many fights at a time. Today they've done more but I still want to go through their posts tomorrow morning when i do dancers and maybe yours. Also debating if I have time to do flerp, bminus1 and Monathin, but I'm not that suss on them and I don't think many others are too so yeah, save some effort. Bed vote: ##vote apun
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Jul 19, 2018 15:26
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I feel like at this point we have to flip either Anpu or Beet just to resolve this stupid dispute.
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Jul 19, 2018 18:14
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flerp posted:why? also hey please do this binus, I want to see a case. I've cooled on you a bit but I really do want to see an actual bit of effort.
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Jul 19, 2018 18:15
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Jul 19, 2018 18:16
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Like at this point every single one of my reads is going to have to relate to how they reacted to either Anpu or Beet, given that's our discussion for MULTIPLE days now. I legitimately don't want to flip Beet unless someone can make a case on them that isn't related to MMT's scum meta.
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Okay, of all the lurkers I feel like dancer may be the most likely to be scum I just did a reread and suggest anyone else interested do likewise it really is quite short. Dancer posted:Also you vigged me. See this is a joke vote (which he immediately unvotes) but he takes a lot of time to poo poo all over his mafia abilities. He does this several times early on talking about how bad he is at mafia; even going so far as to self vote Dancer posted:Welp now I'm hosed. ##vote Dancer He then cases bminus: Dancer posted:I've had a busy few days, and I am a player who absolutely hates to post without up to date on everything being posted, and the amount of noise generated off of a silly game, followed by a slapfight, has been a bit too much. But now is deadline time, so I will post what I can, with the full admission that I haven't read everything (I particularly avoided conversation of slam's game. I find it quite odd that he's claiming he was using it as a scum-hunting tool; it baffles me that someone might think it might be useful as such). And throws shade at AA and IP: Dancer posted:I was about to make a post where I was saying "for the record, I read AA as town [...]", after just reading the thread in sequence... but in hindsight, reading only AA posts, he seems a bit too eager to hop his vote around to whatever seems the best opportunity to lynch someone (presumably a townie) without being held responsible. He pushes slightly on Slam, then changes his mind when it doesn't seem to work. He pushes on Anpu, then backs off again. Then he jumped on MMT when that was in vogue. I'd be willing to vote AA (but I know it's not happening). Dancer posted:I am very torn right now between the impulse to vote someone I think is suspect (AA) or a lurker. Who I'd like to vote for is whatever lurker most people have commented on... but that's MMT and I really don't want to vote someone who's about to be replaced. BUT THEN NEVER VOTES ANYONE. It isn't until I call him out on it that he changes it Dancer posted:Because why not? What could it possibly matter? Which shows he is around and monitoring the thread and keeping his vote there on purpose. He then cases bminus again, waffles about anpu and slam and settles in with a vote on anpu and then ghosts the thread He is even CAUGHT by Max at deadline that day (of the nl) watching thread again and is called out and never comes back. His last post is one from the wrong game and he hasn't been back since. If we can't resolve the beet/anpu thing today I think dancer is a good choice for lynch.
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