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Peanut President posted:This loving town pisses me off so much. "Ahyuck we just wanted a nice little quiet town where it's a simple life and people can take it easy". YOU MOTHER FUCKERS ARE THE REASON EVERYTHING GOT hosed UP! ITS YOU'RE loving FAULT YOU GODDAMN SONS OF BITCHES They all love to vote, too.
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Willie Tomg posted:and generally speaking, jokes aside, american citizens who don't have NYT, WaPo, or Atlantic OpEd columns really loving hate nazis.
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AstheWorldWorlds posted:It'll be fascism. Americans are weak, fragmented, and have no history of meaningful rebellion compared to other peoples.
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The military is nearly 100% chuds and its tbhe army that determines which way the nation goes during a crisis of government. It'll take a civil war to dislodge them and the left isn't organized enough to pull it off (because they've bought into weak anarchist decentralization stuff, which will just straight up lose against a strict chain of command) or strong enough. America will become a failed state.
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Rex-Goliath posted:waiting for a crash to drive down prices IS crazy. don't try to time the market and don't view your home as an investment. if the prices NOW make sense for you to buy vs. rent, then buy now. anywhere that was worthwhile living only saw prices stagnate for a bit before continuing upwards. as long as you're not buying into a mega-suburb development that's only 10% built or something insane like that you'll be fine Prices here do not make sense to buy in my opinion. If that doesn't change I'll leave. The median household income in the town I live in is somewhere around $60-70k. Median house price is $380k. Something has to give eventually.
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rudatron posted:America will become a failed state. Hello, poster in the distant past! It turns out Y2K isn't actually a thing! Exploit this knowledge to your advantage! Oh, also buy Magic: The Gathering cards from the Alpha, Beta, Unlimited and Revised sets, specifically the funny-looking lands.
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AstheWorldWorlds posted:Americans are weak, fragmented, and have no history of meaningful rebellion compared to other peoples. The masses of people being angry or in pain actually means a great deal. Richard Wolff talks a lot about this - how his message has become palatable to the general public rapidly and for the first time in his lifetime. Crypto Cobain fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Jul 21, 2018 |
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KiteAuraan posted:The already precarious agriculture based economy of Arizona is going to loving collapse in 10 years tops and it's going to be hilarious because of how many chances there have been to stop it. how the gently caress do you use 540 gallons of water a day 
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Fleetwood Crack posted:
I'd recommend anyone who has the opportunity to see the executive producer himself speak in person (he tours the country sometimes) that you do it not because he covers especially ground-breaking topics or anything like that, what he says is practically trivial for anyone remotely interested in leftism, but simply to see him speak to a crowd of people and watch them hang on his every word there's going to be a huge demand for leftist thinking in the coming years simply because people are going to recognize that the system is still failing them (a lot of people already see this) and they're going to go looking for answers and this time around all the nazis have tied themselves up with supporting the system that's about to fail
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comedyblissoption posted:in the next collapse I think we may get either a new new deal or full fascism. I mean it's possible that the american public remains pacified and quiescent again as wall st tries to take another collective poo poo on them but I feel like people are getting really pissed off in some ways, it seems like our society is so late-stage capitalist that it's interfering with the transfer to fascism. nationalism is a vital aspect of fascism, and in certain fascist societies, wealth and property were literally stolen from the undesirable caste of people by the state and transferred to the dominant caste ("the nation"). but the vulture capitalists in our society prefer the system they have where they can exploit everyone below the 1% wealthiest regardless of their place in the racial caste system. they are perfectly happy to exploit racism to continue hollowing out the state and all public institutions ("we have to gut public schools/welfare/transportation etc. because those people are using it and don't deserve it"), but they will never fulfill their promises and actually transfer the wealth to the whites who are poor or middle class. they'll keep it all for themselves. honestly the entire "hollowing out the state" aspect of this makes me wonder if fascism is even going to be the right term for what we'll have. what made me think about this was reading yet another article about how the budget crisis in oklahoman public schools is so bad that some only stay open for four days a week, and teachers are fleeing the job in droves because of the low pay. i realized if you asked me to imagine a "classic" fascist society, it would be pretty much the exact opposite of that. something more like this: (comic about growing up in ba'athist syria) i'm thinking political scientists of the future will have to come up with a new term to describe our toxic mix of capitalism, authoritarianism, and racism.
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Lactose Is Wack posted:My dude take solace in the fact that this private gated "paradise" is going the be underwater within our lifetimes Often Abbreviated posted:American fascism looks like now, just with harsher punishments applied more frequently. Heck, a lot of people are living under American fascism - they're the ones who can't speak out, or politically organize, or draw attention to themselves for fear of bizarre and endless punishment (it's poor black people). rudatron posted:The military is nearly 100% chuds and its tbhe army that determines which way the nation goes during a crisis of government. It'll take a civil war to dislodge them and the left isn't organized enough to pull it off (because they've bought into weak anarchist decentralization stuff, which will just straight up lose against a strict chain of command) or strong enough. America will become a failed state. silentsnack fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Jul 22, 2018 |
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Gunshow Poophole posted:how lmao quote:At the meeting, residents accused farmers of sucking the water out from under them and the state of shirking its responsibilities. Lacey, the A.D.W.R. official, argued that the state couldn’t put water back into their wells. The only solution for homeowners, the officials explained, was to chase the water downward, by deepening their wells a few hundred feet. The cost of this, residents knew, was $15,000 to $30,000 — as much as half the value of some homes in the valley.
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KaptainKrunk posted:The rise of american fascism won't see ever greater numbers of white polo-wearing failsons pouring into the streets. I don't know what it'll look like, but Charlottesville (nazi larping) and Trumpism (naked corporate grifting with a touch of white supremacy) aren't it. https://twitter.com/MattBruenig/status/1020664584540127232 Looks something like this I think.
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OhFunny posted:https://twitter.com/MattBruenig/status/1020664584540127232  
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Gunshow Poophole posted:how to trigger the libs FourLeaf posted:in some ways, it seems like our society is so late-stage capitalist that it's interfering with the transfer to fascism. nationalism is a vital aspect of fascism, and in certain fascist societies, wealth and property were literally stolen from the undesirable caste of people by the state and transferred to the dominant caste ("the nation"). but the vulture capitalists in our society prefer the system they have where they can exploit everyone below the 1% wealthiest regardless of their place in the racial caste system. they are perfectly happy to exploit racism to continue hollowing out the state and all public institutions ("we have to gut public schools/welfare/transportation etc. because those people are using it and don't deserve it"), but they will never fulfill their promises and actually transfer the wealth to the whites who are poor or middle class. they'll keep it all for themselves. despotism. or oligarchy.
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Shear Modulus posted:despotism. or oligarchy.
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Shear Modulus posted:to trigger the libs Cyberpunk now?
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Lactose Is Wack posted:My dude take solace in the fact that this private gated "paradise" is going the be underwater within our lifetimes the people living in it will be dead by then
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FourLeaf posted:in some ways, it seems like our society is so late-stage capitalist that it's interfering with the transfer to fascism. nationalism is a vital aspect of fascism, and in certain fascist societies, wealth and property were literally stolen from the undesirable caste of people by the state and transferred to the dominant caste ("the nation"). but the vulture capitalists in our society prefer the system they have where they can exploit everyone below the 1% wealthiest regardless of their place in the racial caste system. they are perfectly happy to exploit racism to continue hollowing out the state and all public institutions ("we have to gut public schools/welfare/transportation etc. because those people are using it and don't deserve it"), but they will never fulfill their promises and actually transfer the wealth to the whites who are poor or middle class. they'll keep it all for themselves. neofeudalism
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OhFunny posted:https://twitter.com/MattBruenig/status/1020664584540127232 oh yea ive been there. it's actually good bbq but dont go at noon or that happens
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in the draka novels s m Stirling has one of the drakan characters refer to their serf-holding republic as plutocratic collectivism
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a fukken... poo poo... triarchy
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anime was right posted:most people are dangerously close to serfs at this point Let's go serfing now, Everybody's learning how, come on and subordinate me (come on and subordinate me)
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About 1/20 of the Us MIlitary is White Nationalist, maybe 25% are fascistic.. Not enough to build an actual movement 0n. The conflict can be won, only need a soc dem elected to start the conflict and begin the purification of American thought. I KNow it can be won, yes we will need to enslave twenty million afterwords for being thought degnerates, but it can be won. All that matters here is, are you so called lefties willing to enslave twenty million?
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rudatron posted:The military is nearly 100% chuds and its tbhe army that determines which way the nation goes during a crisis of government. It'll take a civil war to dislodge them and the left isn't organized enough to pull it off (because they've bought into weak anarchist decentralization stuff, which will just straight up lose against a strict chain of command) or strong enough. America will become a failed state. lol people are really overestimating the number of white people in the military
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OhFunny posted:https://twitter.com/MattBruenig/status/1020664584540127232 might be fun to go with friends in ponchos and sombreros, like i thought this was "Mission" BBQ whats with the american flags 
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ShutteredIn posted:lol people are really overestimating the number of white people in the military https://twitter.com/BreadAndPork/status/989554557566046210 One of the first DSA aligned candidates to win. This guy is a former marine. The Military is far more varied then you know. Also I know the war will be won because I like to watch the forums for Oathkeeper types. They all like to think that some sort of war where they don't control any cities is how they'll win. That's a recipe for in the best of circumstances going the way of the FARC. (In the worst of circumstances you go the way of Che).
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Crowsbeak posted:Also, remember that this guy. The cops and military will change sides for whoever pays them
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Crowsbeak posted:Also, remember that this guy. He won despite the bad VA state dems not giving him any sort of support or recognition.
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Lawman 0 posted:The cops and military will change sides for whoever pays them Which is why I state, that the conflict will begin after a soc dem is elected president, and they promise to stack the court. etalian posted:He won despite the bad VA state dems not giving him any sort of support or recognition. This is going to be repeated over and over for the next ten years.
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Guess who has more money: a theoretical socdem Bernie administration, broke and piled up with debt from trump tax cuts, or plutocrats? That's even assuming Bernie wins
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I think the notion that, alone among all institutions and organizations in this country, the military will be a cohesive bloc with a uniform ideology and command structure is a silly one I know as many vets who got turned into a commie during their service as ones who had their chuddiness escalate. It's not like the current people in power are doing anything but loving the soldiers, with benefit cuts at the same time that they're discharging and deporting their friends. Anyway it's all irrelevant anyway because the Air Force has a bunch of nukes and is 100% ruled by far right Evangelical chuds who will use the civil war as an excuse to bring about the rapture
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Crowsbeak posted:This is going to be repeated over and over for the next ten years. It's hilarious how incompetent and poorly run state dem organizations are especially in important states like FL.
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rudatron posted:Guess who has more money: a theoretical socdem Bernie administration, broke and piled up with debt from trump tax cuts, or plutocrats? That's even assuming Bernie wins Lifehack: promise your military a share of the money from the treason trials
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rudatron posted:Guess who has more money: a theoretical socdem Bernie administration, broke and piled up with debt from trump tax cuts, or plutocrats? That's even assuming Bernie wins The government prints money, its that simple. Epic High Five posted:I think the notion that, alone among all institutions and organizations in this country, the military will be a cohesive bloc with a uniform ideology and command structure is a silly one Yeah, your right to the last part Evangelicals are universally too attached to their mansions to ever risk giving them up.
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etalian posted:It's hilarious how incompetent and poorly run state dem organizations are especially in important states like FL. there's a lot of campaigns that were expecting a ratfucking but it turns out that the local Dem org in their very winnable district is just like, a DNC intern checking a group account once a week thanks, obama
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Crowsbeak posted:The government prints money, its that simple. I mean yeah, generally, but are the air force fundies the prosperity gospel mansion types as well? That seems out of the pay grade of even a high level general in the most overfunded military in world history
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Epic High Five posted:I mean yeah, generally, but are the air force fundies the prosperity gospel mansion types as well? That seems out of the pay grade of even a high level general in the most overfunded military in world history They are. Seriously most of the end times types are also prosperity gospel types, they would love to bring about the rapture, but got to save up so they can have a marble fountain in front of their gothic-tudor fusion mcmansion, that God wants them to have. Now if say a street preacher got his or her hands on nukes, then I'd be scared, those guys are actually poor and have always been poor, and really do believe the end times are going to happen.
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