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Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:

Fart City posted:

It’s a super lame stance to take regarding the dude who more or less made you a leading man by taking a massive gamble on you.

Like I doubt Glenn Howerton would have been so milquetoast if he had gotten the Starlord gig (in the superior alternate universe we are sadly not a part of).

You know what, better movie
And the get Danny DeVito for Ego and you're all set

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AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM
#cybernazis is some dumb poo poo. Censorship and such in Nazi Germany was a state-level department and centralized effort. Mob "justice" is not the same thing, not even close.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

graventy posted:

The guy who got fired for sexual assault and then “found Buddhism” and came back?

Forgive me if I take his ‘People like me should be forgiven’ article as slightly biased.

You seem to be missing the point.

melbatoastXXX
Jul 30, 2000

davidspackage posted:

Looks like Michael Rooker has angrily quit Twitter over this.

Bravo. More people need to pick a side and take a stance when it comes to this sort of thing these days. In my opinion, waffling around trying to adopt both sides of an issue is why we are in such a mess recently. It’s also why slime like Cernovich are repeatedly starting and winning conflicts over and over. People like him never compromise whether the issue is rape or misogyny or false sexual allegations or whatever. They know they can be bullies and hypocrites and do and say whatever they want without consequence because opposition will cave trying to appease everyone.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


AlternateAccount posted:

#cybernazis is some dumb poo poo. Censorship and such in Nazi Germany was a state-level department and centralized effort. Mob "justice" is not the same thing, not even close.

they’re actually nazis. he isn’t using it in the “grammar nazi” sense.

BrandonGK
May 6, 2005

Throw it out the airlock.

melbatoastXXX posted:

Bravo. More people need to pick a side and take a stance when it comes to this sort of thing these days. In my opinion, waffling around trying to adopt both sides of an issue is why we are in such a mess recently. It’s also why slime like Cernovich are repeatedly starting and winning conflicts over and over. People like him never compromise whether the issue is rape or misogyny or false sexual allegations or whatever. They know they can be bullies and hypocrites and do and say whatever they want without consequence because opposition will cave trying to appease everyone.

I have no patience for people who put a premium over no one ever having their jimmies rustled over not allowing political extremists to control the conversation. There's real poo poo in this country to worry about other than lovely jokes made when the Hope poster was all the rage.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



davidspackage posted:

Looks like Michael Rooker has angrily quit Twitter over this.

I like to image Michael Rooker does everything angrily.

https://twitter.com/FreddyInSpace/status/1021405096607911936

Davros1 fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Jul 23, 2018

melbatoastXXX
Jul 30, 2000

BrandonGK posted:

I have no patience for people who put a premium over no one ever having their jimmies rustled over not allowing political extremists to control the conversation. There's real poo poo in this country to worry about other than lovely jokes made when the Hope poster was all the rage.

I agree.

That’s why this thread brought me out of lurk mode. I was disconcerted at some of the sentiments expressed earlier that, to me, seemed to put attacking black-humored offensive jokes that were made and resolved years ago over an accuser who is currently saying and doing waaaaaay more vile things in his professional and private lifestyles. An accuser who is inciting followers to commit all sorts of likewise vile acts.

There’s a big difference in my mind between what Gunn posted versus what Cernovich actually does and people need to pick the proper target for their outrage and anger rather than divide and squabble and get nothing accomplished. It seems to me that the posters in this thread are all pretty much on the same side, just that the energies of a few people are directed at the wrong target. So I felt I had to come in and at least present my opinion. If for no other reason than to make myself feel a teeny bit better about this situation like signing that (probably useless) petition kind of did.

I’ll probably submerge back into lurk mode now that I’ve pretty much presented my feelings on this matter. I just felt I had to vent because this sort of weaponization and perversion of social outrage in a terroristic fashion by the Neo-right to punish those who speak out against them is getting way out of hand and it deeply troubles me.

Also drat I love my man Bobcat. Awesome.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

God drat that is an amazing statement by Bobcat.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



Bobcat owns.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

graventy posted:

The guy who got fired for sexual assault and then “found Buddhism” and came back?

Forgive me if I take his ‘People like me should be forgiven’ article as slightly biased.

It's also important to remember that while on the surface he was "fired" from his job for sexual assault he was quietly rehired not that much later in a role that wasn't as public.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

Looks like Dan Harmon is getting the Gunn treatment now.

Looking forward to the hell we find ourselves in when the only media that’s left after all of this are Tim Allen show reruns.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Fart City posted:

Looks like Dan Harmon is getting the Gunn treatment now.

Looking forward to the hell we find ourselves in when the only media that’s left after all of this are Tim Allen show reruns.

How exactly are you going to try and get Dan Harmon in trouble for making crude and tasteless jokes?

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




I feel like Harmon's drunk assholery is soooo much more well known than the lovely tweets Gunn used to make. Like how much of a shock would Cerno expect anything about Harmon to be lmao

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

"Hey we need a new target! Who could we expose to the world with the shocking revelation that he's made offensive jokes before?"

"How about the guy who makes Rick & Morty? He seems pretty clean-cut."

Pigbuster
Sep 12, 2010

Fun Shoe
At least we can rest easy in the certainty that there's no dark history to the apple-cheeked choirboy that is Justin Roiland.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

Pigbuster posted:

At least we can rest easy in the certainty that there's no dark history to the apple-cheeked choirboy that is Justin Roiland.

He doesn't go after Trump so he's in the clear!

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Pigbuster posted:

At least we can rest easy in the certainty that there's no dark history to the apple-cheeked choirboy that is Justin Roiland.

i bet he and the chuds share similar beliefs about labor

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Fart City posted:

Looks like Dan Harmon is getting the Gunn treatment now.

Looking forward to the hell we find ourselves in when the only media that’s left after all of this are Tim Allen show reruns.

Ahahaha Dan’s an even worse choice to target than Anthony Jesilnek. Dude has never given a gently caress (he regularly airs his actual dirty laundry) and his current employer (Adult Swim) absolutely does not give a poo poo that he made a parody video years ago where he plays a pedophile. Christ, it’d be like going after Donald Glover for “Bro Rape”.

Tonight’s Harmontown and Adult Swim bumps are gonna be pretty amusing, I think.

Hat Thoughts
Jul 27, 2012
Can we just make a different thread for this stuff? Like, when you're postin Faraci articles...

Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006
Or getting ready to cheerlead Harmon who actually has sexually harassed people.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

He apologized and owned up to it, and his accuser accepted it.

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

CelticPredator posted:

He apologized and owned up to it, and his accuser accepted it.

Yup. When it originally came up I was upset about it (l love both Harmon and Ganz’ work) but his response was enough for her, which was enough for me.

Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006

CelticPredator posted:

He apologized and owned up to it, and his accuser accepted it.
What's your actual point here?

This topic is only tenuously related to the metoo movement and sexual harassment. This is a thread for discussing the sexual assault and harassment culture in Hollywood and the thread's preparation to cheerlead a known harasser over a separate issue where he happens to be in the right is weird.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

Timeless Appeal posted:

What's your actual point here?


That he apologized and she accepted it. And that whatever happened between them years ago was dealt with in a public forum and doesn't have anything to do with what occurred here.

Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway
I also think that as long as weird Mike's twitter crusade is in this thread it will legitimize the idea that this is a justified metoo thing.

A new thread with a concise description and some counters to the stupid misinformation Mike fans have been spreading could be helpful. But I'm not a cined regular and I'm sure people would call that out.

Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006

CelticPredator posted:

That he apologized and she accepted it. And that whatever happened between them years ago was dealt with in a public forum and doesn't have anything to do with what occurred here.
That's not the point.

This thread about people being raped, sexually assaulted, and harassed has been cooped by people angry that a millionaire can't make a sub-par superhero movie because of lovely tweets he made. And it's fair to think that sucks because there is a lot poo poo and hypocrisy around the topic. But it's not the topic of this thread, and it's gotten to the point where a thread about how about the culture of Hollywood is toxic is preparing to literally cheerlead someone who sexually harassed a young writer.

I'm not criticizing Harmon. I'm criticizing the discussion for being in this thread to begin with.

Timeless Appeal fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Jul 24, 2018

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Timeless Appeal posted:

This thread about people being raped, sexually assaulted, and harassed has been cooped by people angry that a millionaire can't make a sub-par superhero movie because of lovely tweets he made.

Why I haven't posted in here about all that and should be about all that need be said to return things to their respective alleys.

edit lol you didn't need to have a pop about the quality of his marvel movies but yeah.

Hat Thoughts
Jul 27, 2012
I made the thread
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3864084

Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006
Appreciate the effort.

Hat Thoughts
Jul 27, 2012

Timeless Appeal posted:

Appreciate the effort.

Thank u

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


chitoryu12 posted:

"Hey we need a new target! Who could we expose to the world with the shocking revelation that he's made offensive jokes before?"

"How about the guy who makes Rick & Morty? He seems pretty clean-cut."

Magachuds really hitting the bottom of the barrel early on this one.

Pigbuster
Sep 12, 2010

Fun Shoe

Sodomy Hussein posted:

Magachuds really hitting the bottom of the barrel early on this one.

If they're really just looking for pedophilia jokes in all Trump critics' Twitter feeds I imagine that well's gonna run dry pretty drat quick.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Fart City posted:

Looks like Dan Harmon is getting the Gunn treatment now.

Looking forward to the hell we find ourselves in when the only media that’s left after all of this are Tim Allen show reruns.

Tim Allen is a coke dealer and a snitch

Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006
Actual #Metoo News:

Family Guy Planning #metoo episode
This feels cheap

A small article dealing with harassment of cosplayers at ComicCon
On the plus side most of the women interviewed feel safe, but it's by treating comic con the same way my friends treat Eastern Parkway at three in the morning. ComicCon still doesn't have specific rules about sexual harassment, just blanket harassment rules.

Comic Con's dealing with Hardwick
On the plus side, he wasn't there. On the downside, it wasn't really addressed. I guess it's worth asking if it should have been.

EDIT:
A pretty in-depth map of Gibson's scary return to Hollywood and a reminder that he's a monster

Timeless Appeal fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Jul 24, 2018

Wendell
May 11, 2003


The transcript of his abuse to his girlfriend is very bad.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Timeless Appeal posted:

Actual #Metoo News:

Family Guy Planning #metoo episode
This feels cheap

A small article dealing with harassment of cosplayers at ComicCon
On the plus side most of the women interviewed feel safe, but it's by treating comic con the same way my friends treat Eastern Parkway at three in the morning. ComicCon still doesn't have specific rules about sexual harassment, just blanket harassment rules.

Comic Con's dealing with Hardwick
On the plus side, he wasn't there. On the downside, it wasn't really addressed. I guess it's worth asking if it should have been.

EDIT:
A pretty in-depth map of Gibson's scary return to Hollywood and a reminder that he's a monster

Last I remember a lot of cons had to introduce anti-harassment rules along the lines of 'cosplay does not equal consent' because female harassers were as much a problem as male ones. ('no glomping' was also another rule they had to introduce)

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

The venom here is pretty weird and they try to strike some sort of conspiratorial tone. Dude was clearly deep into alcoholism and mentally unstable. Doesn't excuse the actions, but it's an entirely different thing than loving a plastic baby, for instance.

Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Last I remember a lot of cons had to introduce anti-harassment rules along the lines of 'cosplay does not equal consent' because female harassers were as much a problem as male ones. ('no glomping' was also another rule they had to introduce)
From what I remember when Comics Alliance still existed/was good and did a lot of good reporting on the topic, some cons were really proactive about it. I think Emerald City is supposed to have tons of signage around the issue or at least did. Comic Con has continued to be notable for not directly targeting the issue.

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Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Ghost Leviathan posted:

Last I remember a lot of cons had to introduce anti-harassment rules along the lines of 'cosplay does not equal consent' because female harassers were as much a problem as male ones. ('no glomping' was also another rule they had to introduce)

I'm too lazy to dig for the picture but Gencon 2013 had a round table discussion about the topic Cosplay is Not Consent.

It was an hour and a half long. Nobody should need an hour and a half to get through their heads "don't be creepy"

Although it's still weird to me the porn booth sponsored the thing. Mostly because it's weird that Gencon has a porn booth in the first place.

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