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Max Wilco posted:By the way, did you know they're doing a Buffy the Vampire Slayer reboot? So with the Charmed reboot there's plenty of room for improvement, but with the Buffy one I honestly don't know, because I've never seen the original show. Does it hold up?
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Jul 24, 2018 02:43
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Solitair posted:So with the Charmed reboot there's plenty of room for improvement, but with the Buffy one I honestly don't know, because I've never seen the original show. Does it hold up? Buffy is really rough in spots and suffers from the seasons being 22 episode seasons rather than the more compact 12 45-min episodes we have now. I compare it to (Nu) Doctor Who* in that it's a real grab bag of absolutely stellar episodes, trash episodes, and mostly mediocre episodes, but unlike Doctor Who you kind of need to watch it serially, it doesn't work nearly as well watching episodes as one-offs. It has some really bad missteps, but it's definitely watchable. * Which got inspiration from Buffy, so not surprising.
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Jul 24, 2018 02:47
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business hammocks posted:Whedon needs fresh prey, I guess. Already covered. He has an entire pool of young women to prey upon.
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Jul 24, 2018 02:53
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Looking forward to the character whose power is that she walks around barefoot all the time.
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Jul 24, 2018 02:57
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Solitair posted:So with the Charmed reboot there's plenty of room for improvement, but with the Buffy one I honestly don't know, because I've never seen the original show. Does it hold up? I watched it one summer when I was bored and it was still on netflix. It was a bit outside my demographic, but supernatural action is still fun so I watched it all. It was...alright? It kind of had a Twilight thing going on before Twilight existed. Except for the proto-Edward got a spinoff as a vampire detective living in Los Angeles which was more hit and miss than Buffy was. It had some really bad episodes, and a couple great ones. The best one had no supernatural elements at all. I think it could benefit with todays shows generally being a lot more continuity driven. The show had arcs, but if I remember correctly the a good number of the episodes were one-offs. If they stay with the premise of the show and completely change the story, it could work. One other issue is it featured Whedon's tendency to quip, which got old a long time ago. Then again, the show was campy as hell, so it might be a plus if it returns in moderation. lobster22221 fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Jul 24, 2018 |
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Jul 24, 2018 02:59
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It was clever for the era it aired in, in that it just pushed up against the conventions of broadcast tv without challenging or subverting them. Like it would show a character getting stabbed and hard cut to an establishing shot of a funeral, then have the character walk into the foreground and be totally fine, talking with her friend about the week she spent in the hospital recovering. It was smart at the time, but needed the rigidity of formulaic tv as a background to play off of. Whedon was really just perfect for the turn of the 21st century. He’s long since been eclipsed by tv that’s broken the old conventions to do something new.
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Jul 24, 2018 03:08
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business hammocks posted:It was clever for the era it aired in, in that it just pushed up against the conventions of broadcast tv without challenging or subverting them. Like it would show a character getting stabbed and hard cut to an establishing shot of a funeral, then have the character walk into the foreground and be totally fine, talking with her friend about the week she spent in the hospital recovering. It was smart at the time, but needed the rigidity of formulaic tv as a background to play off of. Do you think the remake has a chance of being good, successful, and/or interesting?
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Jul 24, 2018 03:17
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business hammocks posted:It was clever for the era it aired in, in that it just pushed up against the conventions of broadcast tv without challenging or subverting them. Like it would show a character getting stabbed and hard cut to an establishing shot of a funeral, then have the character walk into the foreground and be totally fine, talking with her friend about the week she spent in the hospital recovering. It was smart at the time, but needed the rigidity of formulaic tv as a background to play off of. For what it's worth, Whedon's just EP on the reboot; the showrunner is Monica Owusu-Breen.
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Jul 24, 2018 03:19
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Idran posted:For what it's worth, Whedon's just EP on the reboot; the showrunner is Monica Owusu-Breen. Was Agents of Shield any good? For no reason I can think of, I have not given any marvel tv shows a watch.
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Jul 24, 2018 03:22
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lobster22221 posted:Was Agents of Shield any good? For no reason I can think of, I have not given any marvel tv shows a watch. Joss didn't have much to do with that. It got briefly decent when Winter Soldier did its big twist but other than that it wasn't worth watching. The Marvel Netflix stuff is hit and miss but the hits are good.
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Jul 24, 2018 03:25
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Buffy happened to be popular in the formative years of the last cohort of culture studies people who were able to actually get tenure, so it's going to be in the curricula for a very long time.
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Jul 24, 2018 03:34
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Idran posted:For what it's worth, Whedon's just EP on the reboot; the showrunner is Monica Owusu-Breen. At least she’s probably too old and established in the profession to be one of his targets.
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Jul 24, 2018 03:39
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Max Wilco posted:
wasn't she big friends with whedon or some poo poo for a while? i mean i hate wheadon so it don't mean poo poo but lol. John Murdoch posted:They're hardly perfect things, but it does always annoy me when somebody does the ole "Call of Doody brown people shooters jingoistic hoorah garbage" routine. oh yeah. most are mixed at best but some are pretty good. the BO ones are interesting at least. 2 is weird mixed bag where it has tons of weird jingoism poo poo but the villain is actually pretty decent and kinda not in the wrong at all. AW and IW are both good. and BO3 is loving headtrip. anyway the people that say that poo poo have never played one. they saw a screenshot from 4 and thats it.
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Jul 24, 2018 04:21
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I think Buffy SHOULD be rebooted. No concept is really original, and Buffy is a simple concept that you could do some interesting things with in a modern setting. I welcome them to at least try. Maybe this time her friends will be a little less lovely.
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Jul 24, 2018 05:28
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They should make this version of Buffy pack heat. Like each time she goes out to fight werewolves or whatever she loads up on guns and the show takes 3 minutes to look at her loadout and fetishize her firearm preferences.
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Jul 24, 2018 05:30
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Grimm was basically Buffy for people who grew up watching Buffy and are now in their 30s.
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Jul 24, 2018 05:32
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Dapper_Swindler posted:wasn't she big friends with whedon or some poo poo for a while? i mean i hate wheadon so it don't mean poo poo but lol. No? She's only ever been critical of him and his work as far as I know. She had some choice things to say back when he stormed off of Twitter forever a few years ago (he came back like he always does).
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Jul 24, 2018 05:57
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Angel > Buffy
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Jul 24, 2018 06:43
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Wasn't the TV series already a reboot of the original movie anyway? I liked it for it's time but those were the years I was watching so much TV I permanently damaged my eyes and had no critical watching skills at all. Also Yardbomb posted:Angel > Buffy
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Jul 24, 2018 07:00
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Wasn't the TV series already a reboot of the original movie anyway? Nope, direct continuation. Even tried to get the original actress for the lead role, iirc.
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Jul 24, 2018 07:01
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I think Angel had higher highs and lower lows. Except Buffy's beer episode. That was the lowest.
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Jul 24, 2018 07:19
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lobster22221 posted:I think Angel had higher highs and lower lows. Angel doesn't have a musical spectacular  .Though it does have the puppet episode... Hmmm... 
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Jul 24, 2018 07:41
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Angel doesn't have a musical spectacular That was actually my next example. And to contradict myself again, the body is probably the best episode in either series. I think I may have gotten my opinions of the series mixed up. lobster22221 fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Jul 24, 2018 |
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Jul 24, 2018 07:50
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John Murdoch posted:They're hardly perfect things, but it does always annoy me when somebody does the ole "Call of Doody brown people shooters jingoistic hoorah garbage" routine. While it may seem like "woke game journalist contrarianism" CoD is, in fact, brown people shooters jingoistic hoorah garbage and 99% of the "commentary" on violence that people read into the text is simply the byproduct of sincere jingoistic garbage being too absurd to be believed. To put it another way: Ghosts is not some outlier. Arcsquad12 posted:You can blame Cod's bipolar marketing for the jingoism. The campaigns might want to have commentary on violence and naive heroism but most people see Cod for the multiplayer which the commercials sell as this insane "everyone can be a hero with a gun!" bullshit that revels in violence and explosions. Marketing CoD: "everyone can be a hero with a gun!" Actual CoD: "are you a HARD enough to make the HARD decisions that HARD men need to make to be a hero with a gun?"
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Jul 24, 2018 08:06
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Still my favorite random slam on Joss Whedon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFK7oWLWapc&t=410s
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Jul 24, 2018 08:14
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GrandpaPants posted:Still my favorite random slam on Joss Whedon Ditto!
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Jul 24, 2018 08:43
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FoldableHuman posted:While it may seem like "woke game journalist contrarianism" CoD is, in fact, brown people shooters jingoistic hoorah garbage and 99% of the "commentary" on violence that people read into the text is simply the byproduct of sincere jingoistic garbage being too absurd to be believed. I would argue that CoD 4, aka MW1 was the outlier to all the other ones, in that it did have at least some degree of said commentary. I feel like maybe there was a glimmer in MW3 as well? But I honestly don't remember it that much so probably not.
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Jul 24, 2018 08:56
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Sanguinia posted:I would argue that CoD 4, aka MW1 was the outlier to all the other ones, in that it did have at least some degree of said commentary. Wasn't CoD4:MW the one the devs actually got asked about some of the "commentary" and said that they just did it because it looked cool?
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Jul 24, 2018 09:24
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FoldableHuman posted:While it may seem like "woke game journalist contrarianism" CoD is, in fact, brown people shooters jingoistic hoorah garbage and 99% of the "commentary" on violence that people read into the text is simply the byproduct of sincere jingoistic garbage being too absurd to be believed. Which one had actual war criminal Oliver North?
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Jul 24, 2018 11:07
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DoubleCakes posted:They should make this version of Buffy pack heat. hey, supernatural is still running
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Jul 24, 2018 11:54
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Procrastinator posted:hey, supernatural is still running nick is roast beef and adam is horseradish
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Jul 24, 2018 12:23
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MonsieurChoc posted:Which one had actual war criminal Oliver North?
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Jul 24, 2018 12:31
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Dapper_Swindler posted:wasn't she big friends with whedon or some poo poo for a while? i mean i hate wheadon so it don't mean poo poo but lol. Vanderdeath posted:No? She's only ever been critical of him and his work as far as I know. She had some choice things to say back when he stormed off of Twitter forever a few years ago (he came back like he always does). 
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Jul 24, 2018 13:47
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Yardbomb posted:Angel > Buffy I WILL FIGHT YOU Actually no I won't, it's TV opinions. 
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Jul 24, 2018 13:50
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edit: gently caress it, i'll wait until more stuff comes out
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Jul 24, 2018 13:55
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GrandpaPants posted:Still my favorite random slam on Joss Whedon You're making a really strong case that I should watch every single one of her videos. 
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Jul 24, 2018 14:00
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Absurd Alhazred posted:You're making a really strong case that I should watch every single one of her videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yw6z9G7p1g
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Jul 24, 2018 14:01
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Absurd Alhazred posted:You're making a really strong case that I should watch every single one of her videos. she's very good. I normally am not a huge fan of just 'webcam aimed at person sitting talking' style stuff but she's very funny and entertaining. also
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Absurd Alhazred posted:You're making a really strong case that I should watch every single one of her videos. I'm very partial to this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWPMJwHrWFU
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