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business hammocks posted:He was not racist insofar as I know, or at least not in the race hatred sense. He simply hated all popular culture because it made you a totally atomized passive receiver susceptible to violent mass movements like fascism. And he wasn’t totally wrong, given the demographics of our current nazi insurgency here in the US.
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Alaois posted:every thread is the Star Wars thread if you wait long enough And hitler too.
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I think the guy ignored the escape pod because look he was 5 minutes until his shift was over and then this whole thing happened with the boarding and he had to cancel dinner with this Twi'lek he was looking forward to hook up with and he just didn't want to stay overtime any longer in having to deal with the escape pod. T. A disgruntled retail employee.
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Leal posted:I think the guy ignored the escape pod because look he was 5 minutes until his shift was over and then this whole thing happened with the boarding and he had to cancel dinner with this Twi'lek he was looking forward to hook up with and he just didn't want to stay overtime any longer in having to deal with the escape pod. in the new canon, there is a short story about that dude, he basically goes to his friend and she covers for his gently caress up by a ton of bureaucratic paperwork and poo poo.
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achillesforever6 posted:Yeah but without pop culture everything would be so boring and all I would be doing is work like some goddamn Puritan. I guess I would realize how bullshit everything is and that would create a mass movement to overthrow the capitalist system. i am in the middle with it. i personally dislike consumer nerd culture because its just empty memes and nostalgia for money. that being said, i like forums like games and here where people can have fun talks about dumb nerd poo poo.
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business hammocks posted:He was not racist insofar as I know, or at least not in the race hatred sense. He simply hated all popular culture because it made you a totally atomized passive receiver susceptible to violent mass movements like fascism. And he wasn’t totally wrong, given the demographics of our current nazi insurgency here in the US. yea he was just a grumpy old puritan type who thought that any time you spent not reading history and politics you might as well just open the door for the fascists to hang out in your brain. Like, I disagree, but I get how a guy with his background would go 'maybe if you loving idiots read a book not about whatever the pop culture is right now you'd see the violent authoritarians eager to be handed power on a silver platter'.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:in the new canon, there is a short story about that dude, he basically goes to his friend and she covers for his gently caress up by a ton of bureaucratic paperwork and poo poo. Also they run into Darth Vader while trying to head to the break room for a cup of coffee
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sexpig by night posted:yea he was just a grumpy old puritan type who thought that any time you spent not reading history and politics you might as well just open the door for the fascists to hang out in your brain. Like, I disagree, but I get how a guy with his background would go 'maybe if you loving idiots read a book not about whatever the pop culture is right now you'd see the violent authoritarians eager to be handed power on a silver platter'.
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sexpig by night posted:yea he was just a grumpy old puritan type who thought that any time you spent not reading history and politics you might as well just open the door for the fascists to hang out in your brain. Like, I disagree, but I get how a guy with his background would go 'maybe if you loving idiots read a book not about whatever the pop culture is right now you'd see the violent authoritarians eager to be handed power on a silver platter'. I dunno—he liked opera and the symphony and stuff (ie pop culture from 200 years ago) because he thought it took time and concentration to appreciate vs tv which is designed to be as facile as possible. If I remember right he also liked modern art and avant-garde theater for the same reason. His ideal society is probably Star Trek the Next Generation.
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business hammocks posted:I dunno—he liked opera and the symphony and stuff (ie pop culture from 200 years ago) because he thought it took time and concentration to appreciate vs tv which is designed to be as facile as possible. If I remember right he also liked modern art and avant-garde theater for the same reason. His ideal society is probably Star Trek the Next Generation. this is true, he was very much into the idea of 'high art' vs 'low art' which for someone of his social outlook is...odd....
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business hammocks posted:I dunno—he liked opera and the symphony and stuff (ie pop culture from 200 years ago) because he thought it took time and concentration to appreciate vs tv which is designed to be as facile as possible. If I remember right he also liked modern art and avant-garde theater for the same reason. His ideal society is probably Star Trek the Next Generation. I don't know scholarly types just tend to inject good politics into art of the past while anything "of the culture" is just the worst of our society's ills. You can see that with the critical perception country music pre-60's being more class conscious, gangster rap being viewed as a radical analysis of racial inequality, and lately critical thought of the star wars prequels being a study of how democracy turns to fascism.
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OmanyteJackson posted:I don't know scholarly types just tend to inject good politics into art of the past while anything "of the culture" is just the worst of our society's ills. You can see that with the critical perception country music pre-60's being more class conscious, gangster rap being viewed as a radical analysis of racial inequality, and lately critical thought of the star wars prequels being a study of how democracy turns to fascism. I am amused how people try to push the prequels being high art. like there are some interesting basic ideas but the movies are crap on so many levels. on the music stuff. its just stuff people grew up with and the fact that music is even more a corporate creation(it always was but its more obvious now) then it was back then. that and i like older folk music then newer country. business hammocks posted:I dunno—he liked opera and the symphony and stuff (ie pop culture from 200 years ago) because he thought it took time and concentration to appreciate vs tv which is designed to be as facile as possible. If I remember right he also liked modern art and avant-garde theater for the same reason. His ideal society is probably Star Trek the Next Generation. thats what always amuses me. like all the "deep artistic old media that people love like Shakespeare and syphonys like Mozart such where made because money or mass market appeal or for patron appeal. but because it uses "old" english(its actually new English but whatever) and sounds fancy to our modern ears and people like Bloom love it, therefore its classic poo poo. none of shakespears stuff is original but he tells it in a classic way with timeless themes, it has staying power.
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OmanyteJackson posted:I don't know scholarly types just tend to inject good politics into art of the past while anything "of the culture" is just the worst of our society's ills. You can see that with the critical perception country music pre-60's being more class conscious, gangster rap being viewed as a radical analysis of racial inequality, and lately critical thought of the star wars prequels being a study of how democracy turns to fascism. People in the present are always aware of how much the present sucks, so as soon as the present dies and becomes the past, people are ready to reassess it with the critical distance that then becomes possible and look especially at the parts of it that seem to escape whatever poo poo is intolerable about the present. Adorno for example praised elements of art produced under aristocracy because those elements represent something outside capitalism that he was hungry for because capitalism had starved him for it, even though he would have found feudalism exactly as objectionable as capitalism. I in the 21st century find it appalling that Adorno hated the idea of a society of comfort where most people had secure jobs and disposable income, as I would very much prefer those conditions to my own.
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Libluini posted:Why? They could easily be too arrogant to realize that there is a design flaw. Rogue One changes nothing about the trench run. That was hardly an impossible shot, though - we had missiles capable of doing that years before Star Wars came out. Seriously, ask anyone who’d been on tour abroad and seen a Tomahawk missile strike, and they’ll give you some pretty wild stories.
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I've never hated starwars, but always felt that if I watched star trek I'd enjoy it more. But I'm also a binger and I don't have time for that. I do think starwars can be fun though.
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lobster22221 posted:I've never hated starwars, but always felt that if I watched star trek I'd enjoy it more. But I'm also a binger and I don't have time for that. I always loved star wars, hell when i did make a wish for being a health deprived kid, i picked Lucas ranch. it was amazing and we saw all the props. that being said, as i got older i found other interests and even though i grew up with the prequels. i still think they are pretty garbage but i can understand why people like them because they have good memories attached to them(as do I) now a days, i still like star wars and i think the disney movies have for the most part been decent/good/whatever. but i just hate the fanbase because its seems to be either weird extreame chud types who hate everything star wars, or weird fans who think everything is perfect and magical. i just hate fanbases in general.
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Yet More Evidence That Empire Strikes Back Is The Best Star Wars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5NhHBjyJe4 that's not what the video is explicitly about (it's actually about how subtle changes to framing and lighting can make an okay costume iconic) but that's more or less what I walked away from it with SatansBestBuddy fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Jul 28, 2018 |
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Jul 28, 2018 22:18
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Dapper_Swindler posted:I always loved star wars, hell when i did make a wish for being a health deprived kid, i picked Lucas ranch. it was amazing and we saw all the props. that being said, as i got older i found other interests and even though i grew up with the prequels. i still think they are pretty garbage but i can understand why people like them because they have good memories attached to them(as do I) now a days, i still like star wars and i think the disney movies have for the most part been decent/good/whatever. but i just hate the fanbase because its seems to be either weird extreame chud types who hate everything star wars, or weird fans who think everything is perfect and magical. i just hate fanbases in general. Yeah, the base has a bad reputation, and a lot of people in there have earned it. I feel guilty for not liking Rose as a character(the actress is fine, though I don't know too much about her) because of it.
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Yet More Evidence That Empire Strikes Back Is The Best Star Wars empire has always been the best "movie" star wars movie. followed by 4 and 7 in my opinion.
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lobster22221 posted:Yeah, the base has a bad reputation, and a lot of people in there have earned it. I feel guilty for not liking Rose as a character(the actress is fine, though I don't know too much about her) because of it. i thought she works well enough. both sides view rose as either the best part of the movie or the worst. I think she was fine both as a character or thematically but 8 in general is one of those movies that put its themes ahead of story so you get bad cringy poo poo like the ending with her and finn. sure it works thematically but as story its kinda badly done. yeah, most fandoms are terrible in general. they either become resetera or /pol/ with no inbetween.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i thought she works well enough. both sides view rose as either the best part of the movie or the worst. I think she was fine both as a character or thematically but 8 in general is one of those movies that put its themes ahead of story so you get bad cringy poo poo like the ending with her and finn. sure it works thematically but as story its kinda bad. I only saw the movie once, but it felt like a part of her role at first was to point at things and say how awesome they were. Her role near the end didn't bother me as much. It's a dumb reason for not liking her, and if I rewatched it I would probably pay more attention to the rest of what she did and find out I was wrong, which just adds to why I feel a bit guilty.
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Augus posted:5>4>8>6>7>3>2>1 not bad. lobster22221 posted:I only saw the movie once, but it felt like a part of her role at first was to point at things and say how awesome they were. Her role near the end didn't bother me as much. It's a dumb reason for not liking her, and if I rewatched it I would probably pay more attention to the rest of what she did and find out I was wrong, which just adds to why I feel a bit guilty. nah, she is more the rebel who points out poo poo like that space capitalists are evil and "fight for what you love" type stuff. its not bad stuff but the whole crash part was really loving dumb.
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Darth Walrus posted:That was hardly an impossible shot, though - we had missiles capable of doing that years before Star Wars came out. Seriously, ask anyone who’d been on tour abroad and seen a Tomahawk missile strike, and they’ll give you some pretty wild stories. We have missiles that can turn by 90° instantly? I need some sources before I believe that, buddy.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:nah, she is more the rebel who points out poo poo like that space capitalists are evil and "fight for what you love" type stuff. its not bad stuff but the whole crash part was really loving dumb. The crash and the whole casino planet segment. I get what they were trying to do, but it was handled pretty badly. Like DJ as a character felt completely pointless to the whole thing. Anybody could have filled his role.
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Lessail posted:it's time for star wars to end Much like the War on Drugs, the Star Wars were never designed to end. Libluini posted:We have missiles that can turn by 90° instantly? I need some sources before I believe that, buddy. Take a look at some Looney Toons, buster
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Libluini posted:We have missiles that can turn by 90° instantly? I need some sources before I believe that, buddy. The force?
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Augus posted:5>4>8>6>7>3>2>1 I think I'd switch 2 and 1... ... ... ... And also 5 and 8
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Lessail posted:it's time for star wars to end No more Star Wars, no more Star Bloodshed.
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business hammocks posted:The force? *Closes eyes and bests up Adam Driver*
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khwarezm posted:I think I'd switch 2 and 1... This is the correct ranking. Also, for non-Star Wars content, check out this video on the bizarre story of the "Emperor of the United States." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gRXErWolmM
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Augus posted:5>4>8>6>7>3>2>1 This could either be favorite Star Wars movies or favorite Jojo parts.
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I was worried when I saw the new post count, then relieved it was just more pointless nerdery. I like this thread.
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Roth posted:This could either be favorite Star Wars movies or favorite Jojo parts. 7 is way too low and 6 is way too high for that...
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Kind of a weird request, but does anyone have any channels like VaatiVidya where they've mined out their mandate but are still out there just kind of spinning their wheels
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Mokinokaro posted:The crash and the whole casino planet segment. I get what they were trying to do, but it was handled pretty badly. yeah, i like the message but its crap delivery. Puppy Time posted:I was worried when I saw the new post count, then relieved it was just more pointless nerdery. I like this thread. same. Arcsquad12 posted:*Closes eyes and bests up Adam Driver* I am honestly glad they kept kylo evil because a face turn with him would be dumb. like vader as bad as the prequels were had tragedy. kylo has some tragic elements but he is basically giant manchild shithead who wears a cosplay mask to work.
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Procrastinator posted:7 is way too low and 6 is way too high for that... 6 is alot like 8 to me. some good and cool elements with tons of dumb and meh stuff.
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