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Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused
Though honestly at the risk of alienating myself I have to ask; do you guys care if an artist you like draws kink stuff on the side? And I mean really weird poo poo, not some busty fox girls that are downright wholesome nowadays.

I've tried to adopt the mentality of "if they keep it to themselves then who cares" as long as its not anything illegal. I think some artists have a problem of letting their fetishes slip into their work in some not-so subtle ways, but you can avoid that if you're conscientious about it. Also I've found a lot of artists I really like and if I never looked at their art just because they are into stuff I'm not then I feel like I'd miss out on a lot of neat content.

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Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
i really couldnt care less honestly, as long as its not something thats universally considered beyond the pale by all people outside of internet cesspits (outright pedophilia etc)

some of my favorite artists draw stuff on the side im personally not too interested in but thats not really my business is it :v

Kanine
Aug 5, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo


ive been making star wars blaster guns for a few weeks ago figuring out what i'd like to make in 3d.

does anybody have suggestions on guns with cool silhouettes or parts that would be good for blasters?

FunkyAl
Mar 28, 2010

Your vitals soar.
How come kink poo poo never makes me reflect on the complex ramifications of the act of loving someone?

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


I'm quite happy to ignore weird fetish art, and sometimes quite like it if they make something funny out of it, Oglaf being a good example. I think the key is to go for absurdist or self deprecating humour; the worry is always that a person's weird interests are a sign of something weird deep down, so it's kind of comforting when they're cool about how bizarre their interests are.

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

FunkyAl posted:

How come kink poo poo never makes me reflect on the complex ramifications of the act of loving someone?

what youre looking for is usually called aftercare

FunkyAl
Mar 28, 2010

Your vitals soar.

Tollymain posted:

what youre looking for is usually called aftercare


that there is a kink hashtag for the basic, intuitive act of showing your partner affection after sex says more about internet kink content than i ever could

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
i'd take a million poorly drawn fetish webcomics over a single damien hirst

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Kanine posted:



ive been making star wars blaster guns for a few weeks ago figuring out what i'd like to make in 3d.

does anybody have suggestions on guns with cool silhouettes or parts that would be good for blasters?

Nice work. This link has a few good ideas- I think Destiny and the sequel are the current frontrunners for interesting space gun design.

FunkyAl
Mar 28, 2010

Your vitals soar.
Here is my thought more specifically, and written less like a online b-hole: human sexuality is a beautiful, complicated thing and i think theres an incredible depth to the subjects you can explore related to it. But when i look at online content, kink and fetish stuff and all that i feel aliented by most of it. Its like everyone is focused on one act or one property, whatever their "kink" is, to the exclusion of all the other vital components that make sex sexy. Who are you with? How did you get there? How do you feel about them? How does sex change your perception of them? Does it change their perception of you? Where does love come into it? Is love leaving it? Where does love come from in the first place? Maybe its corny to ask, but where IS the love?

This is all of course maybe silly to ask of content that is intentionally masturbatory and to make $$$$ but i think a lot of porn artists could be reaching more, theres too much thats like an escalating series of inhumanly gigantic asses, or various video game cartoon characters having specific things done to them, or blah blah blah blah.

I like jess finks work and ovens, for instance, because they approach those kinda feelings in their work. Sex with depth. Like in real life, but still ultimately far less fullfilling. But closer.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Oglaf is genuinely good for this, within the limits of a humour strip.

gmc9987
Jul 25, 2007

FunkyAl posted:

Here is my thought more specifically, and written less like a online b-hole: human sexuality is a beautiful, complicated thing and i think theres an incredible depth to the subjects you can explore related to it. But when i look at online content, kink and fetish stuff and all that i feel aliented by most of it. Its like everyone is focused on one act or one property, whatever their "kink" is, to the exclusion of all the other vital components that make sex sexy. Who are you with? How did you get there? How do you feel about them? How does sex change your perception of them? Does it change their perception of you? Where does love come into it? Is love leaving it? Where does love come from in the first place? Maybe its corny to ask, but where IS the love?

I'm guessing that for a fair number of people, not having to reflect on all that is one of the benefits of looking at porn. Sometimes people get horny and just want to get off and maybe they don't need to push the boundaries of narrative art to do so.

Personally, I would like to see some of what you're discussing up there show up in mainstream non-porn stories. Sex is used as shorthand for a lot of things - like, a quick way to show people are in love or as a reward for saving the world - and there are a lot of other, more interesting ways to show these relationships that are definitely way harder to do. For that matter, i think too much emphasis is placed on romantic leads in stories, shoving any non-romantic relationships out of the picture almost entirely.

To me anyway, expecting these kinds of existential questions to be addressed in material designed specifically for people who are acutely horny and want to become not-as-horny seems like kind of a frustrating path to be on.

FunkyAl
Mar 28, 2010

Your vitals soar.

gmc9987 posted:

I'm guessing that for a fair number of people, not having to reflect on all that is one of the benefits of looking at porn. Sometimes people get horny and just want to get off and maybe they don't need to push the boundaries of narrative art to do so.

Personally, I would like to see some of what you're discussing up there show up in mainstream non-porn stories. Sex is used as shorthand for a lot of things - like, a quick way to show people are in love or as a reward for saving the world - and there are a lot of other, more interesting ways to show these relationships that are definitely way harder to do. For that matter, i think too much emphasis is placed on romantic leads in stories, shoving any non-romantic relationships out of the picture almost entirely.

To me anyway, expecting these kinds of existential questions to be addressed in material designed specifically for people who are acutely horny and want to become not-as-horny seems like kind of a frustrating path to be on.

It is less that i expect it, or think all these considerations should be exhaustively answered by artists, but more that there is a certain human tenderness lacking at the core of a lot of sex-adjacent work i see online and i worry that its making people colder. This might just be a problem i have with porn in general though.

And i agree with your second point, except that i think i would like to see way more emphasis on romance in movies and that the reason "getting the girl" tropes and such are so uninteresting is that the mainstream stuff,isnt asking these questions either

avshalemon
Jun 28, 2018

my book is all about aftercare, the sex is over and done with by the time the story starts and they're stuck in the interminable part of the relationship where one partner is insane and the other one is trying to stop them from killing themselves, but then due to inadequate amounts of aftercare the insane one dies anyway and turns into an undead deep-sea jesus that kills people with xenosonic frequencies, as is inevitable in this age of sham marriages

avshalemon
Jun 28, 2018

i'm trying to ask the important questions

avshalemon
Jun 28, 2018

FunkyAl posted:

theres too much thats like an escalating series of inhumanly gigantic asses
i mean it has this too

quote:

I like jess finks work and ovens, for instance, because they approach those kinda feelings in their work.
legit read this as you confessing you have a fetish for ovens

FunkyAl
Mar 28, 2010

Your vitals soar.

avshalemon posted:

my book is all about aftercare, the sex is over and done with by the time the story starts and they're stuck in the interminable part of the relationship where one partner is insane and the other one is trying to stop them from killing themselves, but then due to inadequate amounts of aftercare the insane one dies anyway and turns into an undead deep-sea jesus that kills people with xenosonic frequencies, as is inevitable in this age of sham marriages

Av i want to read your book!


avshalemon posted:

i mean it has this too

legit read this as you confessing you have a fetish for ovens

Whats hotter than an oven?

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

avshalemon posted:

my book is all about aftercare, the sex is over and done with by the time the story starts and they're stuck in the interminable part of the relationship where one partner is insane and the other one is trying to stop them from killing themselves, but then due to inadequate amounts of aftercare the insane one dies anyway and turns into an undead deep-sea jesus that kills people with xenosonic frequencies, as is inevitable in this age of sham marriages

truly a tale of our times

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
(since some folks seem confused aftercare is specifically the part of kink where you handle the comedown from w/e ungodly acts of consensual violence you just performed, its not a kink itself so much as a safe/healthy kink practice in general)

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!
It's when they clear out of the room so the cleaners can come in with the hazmat suits and the shop vacs and the ladders yes this one's gonna need the ladder they got the ceiling too watch your head.

Internet Kraken posted:

Though honestly at the risk of alienating myself I have to ask; do you guys care if an artist you like draws kink stuff on the side?
What do you mean, "on the side"? :v:

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









I don't normally do this, but this week is the sixth anniversary of the bloodsoaked Flash Fiction Thunderdome, so if you have ever considered signing up for a round then this is a great opportunity to do it and win not only unending glory but also actual prizes!

Putting in a story also gets you lifetime access to the frankly astonishing Thunderdome Archive which currently has more than seven million words of goon fiction in it, some of which aren't terrible.

You have a couple of days to decide, but it's an easy prompt so I'd just leap right the hell in if I were you.

avshalemon
Jun 28, 2018

i want to do thunderdome but critiquing people makes me anxious :(

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

avshalemon posted:

i want to do thunderdome but critiquing people makes me anxious :(

Participants aren't required to critique! Judges are, or are at least strongly encouraged to, but you're free to abdicate judging if you're not comfortable with it (or just not sign up to judge).

HungryMedusa
Apr 28, 2003


I made it through the initial jury process to the State Fair fine art show here, and now I found out I didn't make it in. Again! This is like the 5th juried show in a row I haven't made it into and it is so disheartening. Especially since I got my hopes up making it through the first round.

Guess I should have drawn porn instead.

E:

Anyone have any good instagram follows for art? For my main media which is colored pencil, it is 99% realistically drawn and 75% animal portraits. I would like some fresh, interesting things to look at and be inspired (or shamed) by.

HungryMedusa fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Aug 1, 2018

smallmouth
Oct 1, 2009

HungryMedusa posted:

I made it through the initial jury process to the State Fair fine art show here, and now I found out I didn't make it in. Again! This is like the 5th juried show in a row I haven't made it into and it is so disheartening. Especially since I got my hopes up making it through the first round.

Guess I should have drawn porn instead.

E:

Anyone have any good instagram follows for art? For my main media which is colored pencil, it is 99% realistically drawn and 75% animal portraits. I would like some fresh, interesting things to look at and be inspired (or shamed) by.

I haven't made it into a juried show in three years. :smith:

Kanine
Aug 5, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
here's an article that talks more about those tweets relating to valve that got posted before

https://www.pcgamer.com/ex-valve-employee-describes-ruthless-industry-politics/

also this is a good thread on the subject
https://twitter.com/JDespland/status/1021003260688240641

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Kanine posted:

here's an article that talks more about those tweets relating to valve that got posted before

https://www.pcgamer.com/ex-valve-employee-describes-ruthless-industry-politics/

also this is a good thread on the subject
https://twitter.com/JDespland/status/1021003260688240641

a "flat company" where the decisions and profits are all made by the head boss and his closest advisors is just feudalism

avshalemon
Jun 28, 2018

i bought a company name the other day to do graphic design things and now i have an email address that is myname@companyname.org, every time i look at it i feel a stab of pride like i've finally become a real person

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused
Anyone have a good tutorial on how to go about doing colored lighting? I can do shading fine when I'm working with black for shadows and white for highlights, but trying to use any other colours just looks weird. But if I wanted something to be illuminated by, say, a campfire then it should have an orange glow.

ThePlague-Daemon
Apr 16, 2008

~Neck Angels~
I started a Patreon and I'm afraid it's gonna be another account for people to not follow.

gmc9987
Jul 25, 2007

Internet Kraken posted:

Anyone have a good tutorial on how to go about doing colored lighting? I can do shading fine when I'm working with black for shadows and white for highlights, but trying to use any other colours just looks weird. But if I wanted something to be illuminated by, say, a campfire then it should have an orange glow.

I don't have any tutorials on hand but one thing that helped me was to stop using black and white entirely, very few things in real life are actually black or white.

Generally speaking, shadow areas tend to shift towards the complementary color on the color wheel from the light source. So, if you have yellow light (like the sun) then mixing some purple into your colors will help get a more realistic color than darkening with black. An orange campfire would have some deep bluish purple shadows. Obviously you can mess around with this for dramatic effect or mood, it's not a hard and fast rule, but if you're just starting out with lighting and color then the best thing to do is to stop using black and white and start using colors based on the complements of your lighting.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


ThePlague-Daemon posted:

I started a Patreon and I'm afraid it's gonna be another account for people to not follow.

Well they won't if you don't link to it! Spread it around, goon.

Re: colour, what are some good starter guides? Youtube would be best for me, but whatever works, as right now I'm still working entirely in black and white and I seem to have no eye whatsoever for judging and picking colour.

Kanine
Aug 5, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

avshalemon posted:

i bought a company name the other day to do graphic design things and now i have an email address that is myname@companyname.org, every time i look at it i feel a stab of pride like i've finally become a real person

this reminds me of the first time i handed a business card to someone giving me a portfolio review and i felt like a grownup for the first time ever

Doctor Dogballs
Apr 1, 2007

driving the fuck truck from hand land to pound town without stopping at suction station


Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Well they won't if you don't link to it! Spread it around, goon.

Re: colour, what are some good starter guides? Youtube would be best for me, but whatever works, as right now I'm still working entirely in black and white and I seem to have no eye whatsoever for judging and picking colour.

what medium

avshalemon
Jun 28, 2018

my art improved markedly after i started smoking weed again :toot: :420:

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013



Digital, I guess, since that's the easiest option for me to play around with during lunch at work. I am just not up to speed on colour theory at all though.

FunkyAl
Mar 28, 2010

Your vitals soar.

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Digital, I guess, since that's the easiest option for me to play around with during lunch at work. I am just not up to speed on colour theory at all though.

Don't overthink it! Color theory's vital for understanding color and how it relates to itself and what kinds of color combinations are effective but eventually you're going to start noticing relationships outside of what it can suggest to you and thats when your work's gonna "become itself" so to speak. Always keep your eyes open, always look at how light and color are interacting with objects in the real world. You DO have an eye for judging and picking color, or else you would not be able to see color, so this is what you refine. I'd also recommend getting a limited palate of cheap watermedia in addition to digital, its easier to figure out how colors blend that way.

avshalemon
Jun 28, 2018

FunkyAl posted:

I'd also recommend getting a limited palate of cheap watermedia in addition to digital, its easier to figure out how colors blend that way.
absolutely this. a little tray of watercolours is a great tool. don't even try to paint any particular thing at first, just have fun, chill out / listen to music / smoke a weed and go hog wild with experiments mixing different colours and laying out swashes side by side on paper, try to completely eliminate all the white space and see what you're left with - you don't just make colours by mixing them, you also make them by placing them, because colours change depending on what colours they're surrounded by (it all has to do with the absorption of light) and paint is the best way to really get an instinctive sense of how that all works. plus your experiments will look really cool in ways you didn't expect, which is always motivating!

avshalemon
Jun 28, 2018

(guess what i've been doing lol)



i haven't had a dinky little tray of watercolours since i was a literal child, but i was forced to buy one on thursday because there was nothing else available... and i love it! it's so fast and convenient! it's better than photoshop!

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Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Cool cool, I'll go grab myself some watercolours then.

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