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Tiresias2 posted:I'm assuming this is found. Where did you find this? his gimmick is white noise crazy he found somewhere else. its the same as lottery of babylon. Corn bread communism is one of the all time best memes check mate guy the sad rhino is quoting.
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Henchman of Santa posted:You can find all you need on Wikipedia No one uses the terms right anyway. If you look over all the literature and decide you're an anarcho-techno-social-transconstructionalist, the right will still hear that as "commie" and the left will hear it as "what".
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Mak0rz posted:One of my friends went off the deep end and thinks Petersen is cool and an intellectual and she* was recently lamenting on Facebook about missing one of his lectures despite all of the evidence that he's a nonsense talking lunatic. Wait wait wait. You're in Calgary, yeah (I think? You and couple of other folks that lurk PYF). I think I am good friends with this same friend. Are we friends friend?
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OldMemes posted:or the people who would claim that a lesbian not wanting a physical relationship with a pre-op mtf trans person is a bigot 
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Jul 31, 2018 02:52
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Leavemywife posted:I'm not entirely sure what Marxism is, to be completely honest. Read The Communist Manifesto.
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Then read everything Friedrich Engels wrote
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Mak0rz posted:One of my friends went off the deep end and thinks Petersen is cool and an intellectual and she* was recently lamenting on Facebook about missing one of his lectures despite all of the evidence that he's a nonsense talking lunatic. I encountered a Tinder profile a while back for a very conventionally attractive woman whose dream dinner party included Peterson, Bill Hicks, Sam Harris and Bill Burr for some reason. Her list of interests other than that included Rick and Morty and “140+ IQ” among others and apparently her Instagram has 16,000 followers. Easily the most cursed dating profile I’ve ever seen.
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Henchman of Santa posted:Peterson, Sam Harris Required reading (thread): https://twitter.com/TheKavOfficial/status/1018202333614878720
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Manuel Calavera posted:Door..hinge? I got that reference. Tell me about Grim Fandango.
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Jul 31, 2018 05:45
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The Saddest Rhino posted:No, you really don't understand. The left cannot meme, not just because they are unfunny, but because they are trying to navigate through the Great Mimetic War with a map drawn by Hegel, and they are trying to win this Great War with a strategy devised by Marx. did you just trick me into reading jordan peterson words you fucker Leavemywife posted:I'm not entirely sure what Marxism is, to be completely honest. I'm not even sure how to accurately describe socialism, beyond it being better than what's in America right now. I know there's generally higher taxes, but not enough to bankrupt anyone, there's better healthcare, and the government is more involved in helping citizen welfare, and better pay. Well, the main maxim to take away from Marx is "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need." He predicted that capitalist society would eventually collapse on itself and be replaced by largely anarchic, tight-knit communes (hence communism), where private property and financial incentive stopped being a thing and people would look out for each other through a sense of group obligation. Modern Marxism/communism is really hard to pin down, since the term is also used to describe the governments of the Soviet Union and China, even though they're basically the exact opposite of the system Marx originally described.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:Modern Marxism/communism is really hard to pin down, since the term is also used to describe the governments of the Soviet Union and China, even though they're basically the exact opposite of the system Marx originally described. This is red scare bullshit. Those states never described themselves as communist, only ever working towards communism. Werther they were actually working towards communism is still a topic of debate today though, but usually they'd be described as socialist, if anything.
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there wolf posted:It's worth remembering that, like politically correct before it, SJW was an insult crafted on the left for other leftists. After the right latched onto it, it was just a matter of time until it got beaten into total meaninglessness. Do you have a source for this claim? I'd previously heard it (specifically used as an insult) originated with neo-nazis on Tumblr, but a little googling doesn't back up either of those.
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Praseodymi posted:This is red scare bullshit. Those states never described themselves as communist, only ever working towards communism. Fair enough. I had typed up more words, but I tried to pare down my post to be as Cliff's notes as possible. The specific term for a system wherein a central government owns basically everything is State Capitalism, which is a form of socialism but antithetical to communism since the latter prescribes a stateless society, but it's also the system that is colloquially known as communism. I don't know how political scientists deal with the dissonance, but I think you need to recognize that it exists in any informal setting. E: felch me daddy jr. posted:Do you have a source for this claim? I'd previously heard it (specifically used as an insult) originated with neo-nazis on Tumblr, but a little googling doesn't back up either of those. I don't have a specific source, but it was used quite frequently on these very forums before I ever saw it in the broader public, and it was mostly targeted at people using the mantle of social justice to defend things like furdom or pedophilia and insist they should get the same recognition as the LGBT movement, as well as the aforementioned chiding of white people learning Spanish or eating Asian foods from people who'd just learned the term "Cultural Appropration" with no understanding. Zulily Zoetrope has a new favorite as of 09:28 on Jul 31, 2018 |
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Mak0rz posted:Required reading (thread):  That poor, poor man. His friend owes him a HUGE favor for dragging him to that anti-intellectual clown-show.
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Henchman of Santa posted:Enders Game is extremely well known lol. The author is also a notorious homophobe. I wouldn't be surprised. He did a whole Ender book just on the theme of abortion where there's a super smart commando soldier. Him and his wife were having children in vitro fertilization. But a villain stole the fertilized eggs. Said commando spends a whole book chasing the villain in an attempt to get them back and it culminates in a stand-off where the villain has the container of fertilized eggs as a hostage at gun point. They also call them "our babies" about a million times.
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And one of the tags talks about becoming human. jfc
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:Well, the main maxim to take away from Marx is "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need." This core tenet right here is really hard for Americans to get past, even those who understand communism at a deeper level than what their gym teacher told them. High achievers get punished? If you work harder your extra output just gets taken away and given to someone else who doesn't want to/can't work as hard? Fuuuuck that! The American Dream means I can get ahead if I try, and if I'm given certain advantages then it's my God-given right to use them to their fullest, for my own benefit! Communism seems to depend on there being a lot more altruistic people in society than selfish ones, and since actually there seem to be more of the latter, you need heavy enforcement, which becomes oppression.
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Data Graham posted:This core tenet right here is really hard for Americans to get past, even those who understand communism at a deeper level than what their gym teacher told them. High achievers get punished? If you work harder your extra output just gets taken away and given to someone else who doesn't want to/can't work as hard? Fuuuuck that! The American Dream means I can get ahead if I try, and if I'm given certain advantages then it's my God-given right to use them to their fullest, for my own benefit! doesn't really matter what we think, we're coming up on a moment when people have so little that something's gonna have to be done. either we eat the rich or they eat us, there's no way around that
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Data Graham posted:This core tenet right here is really hard for Americans to get past, even those who understand communism at a deeper level than what their gym teacher told them. High achievers get punished? If you work harder your extra output just gets taken away and given to someone else who doesn't want to/can't work as hard? Fuuuuck that! The American Dream means I can get ahead if I try, and if I'm given certain advantages then it's my God-given right to use them to their fullest, for my own benefit! The problem is the scale. People already behave this way among small family and friendship groups. We're generally fine with helping people we know even if we don't believe they'll ever be in a position to repay that help, but when you scale it up to include strangers then suddenly we start to suspect that we're being taken advantage of.
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OldMemes posted:SJW has become such a meaningless term. It made sense when it was used to describe the kind of people who tried to be woke and were really bad at it: the tumblr types who would claim that non-Mexicans speaking spanish is racist, then deny the existence of Spain, or the people who would claim that a lesbian not wanting a physical relationship with a pre-op mtf trans person is a bigot, or the people who would get really angry about white people eating asian food. This is a good post.
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Tiggum posted:The problem is the scale. People already behave this way among small family and friendship groups. We're generally fine with helping people we know even if we don't believe they'll ever be in a position to repay that help, but when you scale it up to include strangers then suddenly we start to suspect that we're being taken advantage of. Monkeysphere in action
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felch me daddy jr. posted:Do you have a source for this claim? I'd previously heard it (specifically used as an insult) originated with neo-nazis on Tumblr, but a little googling doesn't back up either of those. I have the incredibly reliable and precise source of my memory of pre-tumblr social justice blogs and forums. Like I remember it coming up on feminist blogs during the whole dickwolves controversy because a lot of people had problems with shakesville at that point. Sorry, I don't have anything more concrete.
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Data Graham posted:This core tenet right here is really hard for Americans to get past, even those who understand communism at a deeper level than what their gym teacher told them. High achievers get punished? If you work harder your extra output just gets taken away and given to someone else who doesn't want to/can't work as hard? Fuuuuck that! The American Dream means I can get ahead if I try, and if I'm given certain advantages then it's my God-given right to use them to their fullest, for my own benefit! If you believe the New Testament, it was also how early Christians following Jesus' teachings lived: quote:Acts 4:32–35: 32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. 33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all. 34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, 35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
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Tiggum posted:The problem is the scale. People already behave this way among small family and friendship groups. We're generally fine with helping people we know even if we don't believe they'll ever be in a position to repay that help, but when you scale it up to include strangers then suddenly we start to suspect that we're being taken advantage of. I have to wonder how much better or worse Russian communism would have worked without vodka. Reading people's accounts of life in Soviet Russia, it's all just one big drunken binge that can't possibly have helped productivity. At least meth makes you get up and do stuff.
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Leavemywife posted:I'm not entirely sure what Marxism is, to be completely honest. It's an ideology that history is dominated by the struggle between the proletariat class (who actually do the work) and the bourgeois class (who profit from the work). The tension between the two, exasperated by the industrial revolution and the increasingly brutal measures the rich take to ensure their power, will eventually boil over into revolution. The old order will be swept away, replaced by the workers having shared ownership of factories and other means of production, establishing a dictatorship of the proletariat. Eventually even that state will dissolve as it is no longer necessary, as everyone works according to their ability and is provided for according to their need, a true classless society. That's the theory, anyway. In practice it's when the armed guards on the border wall face in.
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OldMemes posted:SJW has become such a meaningless term. It made sense when it was used to describe the kind of people who tried to be woke and were really bad at it: the tumblr types who would claim that non-Mexicans speaking spanish is racist, then deny the existence of Spain, or the people who would claim that a lesbian not wanting a physical relationship with a pre-op mtf trans person is a bigot, or the people who would get really angry about white people eating asian food. https://twitter.com/anarcho_slut/status/1023961334252220416 Bit of a backlash to this as you might imagine, but this sums it up pretty well https://twitter.com/AnaMardoll/status/1024038772223234048 also https://twitter.com/chick_in_kiev/status/1024268343136673792
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To be clear, the IoSM is Senator Brakey for thinking the poll would turn out any other way: https://twitter.com/SenatorBrakey/status/1023719477123469312  E: f,b. But at least you can vote!
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Byzantine posted:It's an ideology that history is dominated by the struggle between the proletariat class (who actually do the work) and the bourgeois class (who profit from the work). The tension between the two, exasperated by the industrial revolution and the increasingly brutal measures the rich take to ensure their power, will eventually boil over into revolution. The old order will be swept away, replaced by the workers having shared ownership of factories and other means of production, establishing a dictatorship of the proletariat. Eventually even that state will dissolve as it is no longer necessary, as everyone works according to their ability and is provided for according to their need, a true classless society. So what you're saying is https://twitter.com/SenatorBrakey/status/1024044021692485632
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capitalism: well known for not having state violence of any kind. definitely no wars or massacres or slavery under capitalism, no sir
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vyelkin posted:So what you're saying is The private ownership part is a good start.
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Definitely no guys with machine guns telling you what to do in capitalism, no definitely not
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Serf posted:capitalism: well known for not having state violence of any kind. definitely no wars or massacres or slavery under capitalism, no sir No, you see, if people die under communism, it's obviously communism's fault. But if people die under capitalism, that's just like, human nature, man.
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Perestroika posted:No, you see, if people die under communism, it's obviously communism's fault. But if people die under capitalism, that's just like, human nature, man. i do like how the victims of communism number includes all the nazis killed by the red army lol
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