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ZenVulgarity posted:whatever tyler austin sucks adam warren sucks and lance lynn sucks Warren was having a very good year.
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Jul 31, 2018 01:48
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Giving up Austin doesn't break my heart but I wish they could have kept Warren in addition to bringing Lynn on. Having two guys who can spot start and go long would have been nice especially heading into August and September. The upside is Warren is a double agent and will suck with the Mariners.
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Jul 31, 2018 02:07
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I'm texting with my dad now. With Cueto done for the next year, does Bumgarner become an option? He's cheap (7/46 expiring next year but with a team option) and turns 29 in a couple days. Could they give up Sheffield+ and land him if the Giants are giving up, or am I high off hot stove fumes?
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Jul 31, 2018 02:44
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Monkey Wrangler posted:I'm texting with my dad now. With Cueto done for the next year, does Bumgarner become an option? He's cheap (7/46 expiring next year but with a team option) and turns 29 in a couple days. Could they give up Sheffield+ and land him if the Giants are giving up, or am I high off hot stove fumes? Jeff Passan said they would never trade him under any circumstances.
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Jul 31, 2018 02:47
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Monkey Wrangler posted:I'm texting with my dad now. With Cueto done for the next year, does Bumgarner become an option? He's cheap (7/46 expiring next year but with a team option) and turns 29 in a couple days. Could they give up Sheffield+ and land him if the Giants are giving up, or am I high off hot stove fumes? I believe they’ve said that they are absolutely not trading Bumgarner, even as recently as today. I would definitely have given up a bunch of prospects for him, though.
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Jul 31, 2018 02:48
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ZenVulgarity posted:whatever tyler austin sucks adam warren sucks and lance lynn sucks ADAM WARREN DOES NOT SUCK YOU TAKE THAT BACK.
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Jul 31, 2018 02:50
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Adam Warren is good and that trade makes me want to murder, even with full knowledge that they magically made AJ Cole good and he can do the job just as well, and it frees up money for another trade. And Warren sucks away from the Yankees, and they'll get him back after the season for cheap. Lynn could be better in a relief role but I don't see the point unless it's CC insurance. I kind of like Austin, but dudes who can't hit lefties or play defense are not in demand. Voit is garbage offensively, I'd rather have Austin.
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Jul 31, 2018 02:58
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I would rather give Domingo Acevedo, Justice Sheffield or Chance Adams the innings they are giving Lynn. He just isn't good.
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Jul 31, 2018 03:04
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Kim Jong Il posted:Adam Warren is good and that trade makes me want to murder, even with full knowledge that they magically made AJ Cole good and he can do the job just as well, and it frees up money for another trade. And Warren sucks away from the Yankees, and they'll get him back after the season for cheap. It’s not like they got nothing for Warren. They maxed out their international budget, and Rosenthal has quoted scouts saying that they basically turn that money into top prospects that they can’t get in the draft. Isn’t it something like 60-70% of their top 30 prospect list from IFA? https://twitter.com/kileymcd/status/1024086799692562433?s=20 https://twitter.com/Joelsherman1/status/1024093118247911424?s=20
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Jul 31, 2018 03:13
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I wonder what it would take to get Scherzer... Probably Gleyber. Boston is loving tiresome. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Jul 31, 2018 |
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Jul 31, 2018 03:32
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ihatepants posted:It’s not like they got nothing for Warren. They maxed out their international budget, and Rosenthal has quoted scouts saying that they basically turn that money into top prospects that they can’t get in the draft. Isn’t it something like 60-70% of their top 30 prospect list from IFA? Given how well the Yankees do year-over-year, IFA is a better way for them to get top prospects than the draft, so yeah. But still, trading a guy off the 25-man just for money (especially a dude who's been good and fills a role that will now be filled by AJ Cole and Lance Lynn) while you're trying to win the division doesn't sit right with me. EDIT: I have no issues with dealing Austin, as much as I did enjoy him blasting LHP, but the net effect for the team is replacing Warren with Lynn so that's my shorthanded reaction. Inspector_666 fucked around with this message at 15:04 on Jul 31, 2018 |
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Jul 31, 2018 14:45
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They traded Warren who was contributing on a team in a pennant race for a few 16 year olds and are going to try to replace him with a guy who sucks in Lynn. It still makes no sense.
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Jul 31, 2018 15:17
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AJ Cole is younger and has a way higher cieling than Warrren, and has been pitching better. You don't need another right handed mid-long reliever when you have Cole, and Holder, and now Lynn. He was double redundant.
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Jul 31, 2018 21:52
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MODS CURE JOKES posted:AJ Cole is younger and has a way higher cieling than Warrren, and has been pitching better. You don't need another right handed mid-long reliever when you have Cole, and Holder, and now Lynn. He was double redundant. They didn't need Lynn was the point. Tanaka has nothing tonight and is pitching a shutout: "The Orioles" I also <3 Andujar. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Aug 1, 2018 |
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Jul 31, 2018 23:08
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Sonny should be in AAA with the Orioles he can't get out. What a joke.
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Aug 1, 2018 19:00
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What do we have to do to fix grey?
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Aug 1, 2018 19:08
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mcmagic posted:Sonny should be in AAA with the Orioles he can't get out. What a joke. Lynn is warming up now because Gray is so bad. If he pitches today, that means we get to see Cessa against the Red Sox on Saturday if Happ is still too sick to play.
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Aug 1, 2018 19:08
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ihatepants posted:Lynn is warming up now because Gray is so bad. If he pitches today, that means we get to see Cessa against the Red Sox on Saturday if Happ is still too sick to play. Was just thinking that. It's going to be ugly. Not like Lynn vs Boston wouldn't be ugly too. They probably have already lost the division in games vs Baltimore and Tampa. They should be ashamed of themselves. Starting Shane Robinson in pennant race games is also a loving disgrace. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Aug 1, 2018 |
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Aug 1, 2018 19:10
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AkumaHokoru posted:What do we have to do to fix grey? Fangraphs has made the case a couple times this year that Gray's problems might be related to a dramatic drop in fastball usage, which as an A's fan that was used to him throwing like 60% fastballs I find pretty compelling
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Aug 1, 2018 20:29
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Dutchy posted:Fangraphs has made the case a couple times this year that Gray's problems might be related to a dramatic drop in fastball usage, which as an A's fan that was used to him throwing like 60% fastballs I find pretty compelling While I understand their arguments for this, most of his problems have stemmed from a total lack of FB command, so I'm not sure if throwing more of them will help so much.
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Aug 1, 2018 20:34
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Inspector_666 posted:While I understand their arguments for this, most of his problems have stemmed from a total lack of FB command, so I'm not sure if throwing more of them will help so much. Gray's problems are thinking too much and thinking too much. When he goes slow, he is terrible.
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Aug 1, 2018 20:42
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Lumpy posted:Gray's problems are thinking too much and thinking too much. When he goes slow, he is terrible. Yeah, the issues are obvious as hell. The solutions are much harder to formulate.
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Aug 1, 2018 20:44
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Inspector_666 posted:While I understand their arguments for this, most of his problems have stemmed from a total lack of FB command, so I'm not sure if throwing more of them will help so much. Yeah. I think I remember someone (can't remember if it was Fangraphs or someone on Twitter or whatever) making the argument that not throwing his fastball has possibly hurt his feel for the pitch, which is plausible but a really impossible to prove chicken-and-egg theory. And it's not unprecedented for him to just lose his straight stuff, that's what happened during his no good very bad 2016. so i dunno. I just want him to get better because I always loved Sonny.
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Aug 1, 2018 20:44
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Meanwhile while Gray sucks and all, this "great" lineup has 1 run in 6 innings against a pitcher who came in to the game with an ERA over 6 and who probably has been the worst starter in AL this season. It's a teamwide complacence.
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Aug 1, 2018 20:46
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Dutchy posted:Yeah. I think I remember someone (can't remember if it was Fangraphs or someone on Twitter or whatever) making the argument that not throwing his fastball has possibly hurt his feel for the pitch, which is plausible but a really impossible to prove chicken-and-egg theory. And it's not unprecedented for him to just lose his straight stuff, that's what happened during his no good very bad 2016. Yeah, I like Sonny and hope he can turn it around, if not here, then somewhere because he seems like a guy who is trying his best, but putting too much pressure on himself.
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Aug 1, 2018 20:49
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Lumpy posted:Yeah, I like Sonny and hope he can turn it around, if not here, then somewhere because he seems like a guy who is trying his best, but putting too much pressure on himself. Hopefully they sign Corbin and Kershaw in the offseason and kick him to the curb.
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Aug 1, 2018 20:52
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Corbin maybe, Kershaw no. Even assuming he hits the open market.
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Aug 1, 2018 20:56
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Lynn might be a better starting option going forward if we're being honest here. him and Gray aren't lined up by coincidence
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Aug 1, 2018 20:59
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Inspector_666 posted:Corbin maybe, Kershaw no. The idea that people don't want the 30-31 year old AT WORST top 3 pitcher of this generation will never not be hilarious. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Aug 1, 2018 |
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Aug 1, 2018 22:11
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mcmagic posted:The idea that people don't want the 30 year old AT WORST top 3 pitcher of this generation will never not be hilarious. He's had recurring back issues for what, three years now? I don't want to sign him to a long-term deal.
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Aug 1, 2018 22:12
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It's just loss aversion. I wanted to trade Gray for Harvey, and now I want to trade him for Jon Gray (although the Rockies would never go for a crazy flyball pitcher like Sonny.) Or some other similar headcase, can't win them all, I just don't want to lose him for nothing. At this point, see if anyone wants to Verlander a good pitcher making too much money in August. Although I'm in the minority in that I would have gone hard for Chris Archer. The lineup not hitting - it's a good-ish lineup now, but the best lineup ever stuff was predicated on Judge being around and Sanchez being around and not garbage. They are streaky as poo poo.
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Aug 2, 2018 03:16
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Sonny Gray isn't the reason this team is .500 vs Tampa and Baltimore and the Mets.
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Aug 2, 2018 04:15
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Hey you guys let's spend another dozen pages bitching about how horrible this team that's on pace for 104 wins is.
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Aug 2, 2018 04:59
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Monday_ posted:Hey you guys let's spend another dozen pages bitching about how horrible this team that's on pace for 104 wins is. It looks like 104 won’t be good enough.
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Aug 2, 2018 05:22
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mcmagic posted:It looks like 104 won’t be good enough. Tell us more!
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Aug 2, 2018 13:17
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Monday_ posted:Hey you guys let's spend another dozen pages bitching about how horrible this team that's on pace for 104 wins is. They've lost 4 more games than the Sox, it's amazing how people act like the Yankees are just making GBS threads the bed. I get that it's incredibly frustrating to lose to poo poo teams like the O's and Rays but the idea that they're actually a bad team is something else.
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Aug 2, 2018 14:17
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We aren't bad but we believe we are better than a 104 win team. this team should have challenged for the record. losing to garbage feels EXTRA bad I usually rage out when we lose those games too but I don't post about it...even though I want to.
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Aug 2, 2018 14:39
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Inspector_666 posted:They've lost 4 more games than the Sox, it's amazing how people act like the Yankees are just making GBS threads the bed. No one said they are a bad team.
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Aug 2, 2018 14:59
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The yankees are good, and great.
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