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I watched G14 again and I realized that the two note victory theme after he decapitates the female MUTO is a call back to Ifukube's original music. Can't believe I missed that.
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Aug 1, 2018 22:56
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I expect to be disappointed once again when Godzilla doesn't literally eat the Earth whole.
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Aug 2, 2018 00:04
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Arcsquad12 posted:I watched G14 again and I realized that the two note victory theme after he decapitates the female MUTO is a call back to Ifukube's original music. Can't believe I missed that. I'm not really a Godzilla-head but that scene is among my top favorites ever. I love everything about it; from the look of contempt he has as he stares at the lifeless, headless MUTO body, to the way he puts his whole body behind a grade-A roar WHILE HE STILL HOLDS THE HEAD OF THE MUTO. Metal as gently caress, man!
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Aug 2, 2018 00:09
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The facial expressions show Godzilla is very, extremely intelligent on a human level at the least. It was wonderful.
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Aug 2, 2018 00:35
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I like when he swings his big ol' butt around to kill the male MUTO
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Aug 2, 2018 00:47
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Davros1 posted:I like when he swings his big ol' butt around to kill the male MUTO It's the poo poo-eating grin he gives right before it that really brings it home though. I have to say, the 2014 movie got a lot of flack for lacking in Godzilla goodness, but what's there, is really, REALLY good.
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Aug 2, 2018 00:53
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BigglesSWE posted:It's the poo poo-eating grin he gives right before it that really brings it home though. I think 2014 had just the right amount of Godzilla. Edwards just likes to tease you a lot to build tension and hype before finally delivering. The problem wasn't that there wasn't enough Godzilla, it's that despite having an amazing cast all the human parts after Cranston checks out are mind-numbingly boring.
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Aug 2, 2018 01:59
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Less is more. Having lots of giant monsters doing lots of giant monster things is gonna turn out to be this genre's version of superhero quips.
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Aug 2, 2018 02:48
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All would be forgiven if Godzilla and Muto's skirmish in Hawaii hadn't been relegated to a news report. It doesn't even need to be that long.
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Aug 2, 2018 02:53
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K. Waste posted:Less is more. Having lots of giant monsters doing lots of giant monster things is gonna turn out to be this genre's version of superhero quips. But unlike "witty" quips, giant monster fights would be actually fun.
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Aug 2, 2018 03:36
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VolticSurge posted:But unlike "witty" quips, giant monster fights would be actually fun. A single finger curls on the giant ape palm.
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Aug 2, 2018 03:43
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Arcsquad12 posted:All would be forgiven if Godzilla and Muto's skirmish in Hawaii hadn't been relegated to a news report. It doesn't even need to be that long. That rocked rear end actually and nothing needs to be "forgiven"
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Aug 2, 2018 04:59
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There have been plenty of films in the series where the monster fights drag on way too long (Gigan and Spacegodzilla come to mind), longer monsters fights aren't definitively the way to go.
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Aug 2, 2018 05:02
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VolticSurge posted:But unlike "witty" quips, giant monster fights would be actually fun. Nah, the only difference is that one is dialogue and the other is action. Besides advancing the narrative, both should function as an expression of character. But once you treat either as a intrinsically noteworthy precondition of spectacle, you very often undermine the entire basis of why it might be compelling. Giant monsters fighting are not intrinsically fun - strong characterization, cinematography, sound design, and score are fun. With G'14 we have a very interesting instance where basically, because of the socio-economic context and the technological means at the filmmakers disposal, finally Godzilla is actually this creature whose very existence can't find expression through the conventional means of cinema, even the formula of the human characters simply watching him do things. What snapshots that we do see of him are remarkably impressive in their ability to characterize him, but just as important is all this negative space created by the puny humans. Because that's the other important caveat of characterization, how characters are defined by their relationships (or lack thereof) of others. The exact wrong way to go with these films is if they just decided to do them like they were man-in-suit movies, with a more 'objective' treatment of Godzilla as basically just a really big person. Instead, they should concentrate on using these monsters as a pretext for accelerating the bizarro factor of a setting where they exist, exclusive of whether the spectacle that arises from this revolves around the strict, formulaic parameters calcified by over 50 years of movies. Like, might I suggest Mushroom People?
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Aug 2, 2018 05:31
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K. Waste posted:Nah, the only difference is that one is dialogue and the other is action. Besides advancing the narrative, both should function as an expression of character. But once you treat either as a intrinsically noteworthy precondition of spectacle, you very often undermine the entire basis of why it might be compelling. Giant monsters fighting are not intrinsically fun - strong characterization, cinematography, sound design, and score are fun. They did just release a remake of Mario and Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story...
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Aug 2, 2018 06:19
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qPp67-V040 Someone finally uploaded the Oppenheimer trailer to YouTube so we don't need to go to Vimeo anymore.
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Aug 2, 2018 07:58
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There better be at least one scene of Godzilla loving up the American military in the upcoming film.
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Aug 2, 2018 08:27
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Slutitution posted:There better be at least one scene of Godzilla loving up the American military in the upcoming film. We are kind of past that at this point, now we are the Godzilla military. He is, after all, King of the Monsters.
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Aug 2, 2018 10:04
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Perfect Godzilla movie formula: 30% giant monster fights 30% shots that remind us we are ants on the picnic cloth of reality 30% cabinet meetings 10% mothra twins singing
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Aug 2, 2018 12:43
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Cythereal posted:I think 2014 had just the right amount of Godzilla. Edwards just likes to tease you a lot to build tension and hype before finally delivering. I equate it with the Bay Transformers series. Bay revels in filming so much action/destruction that it all becomes so boring as the film goes on. Godzilla 14 did it right by keeping the scenes to a minimum.
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Aug 2, 2018 12:59
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The only time a knock down drag out fight has ever worked in a giant monster movie is War of the Gargantuas and it's pretty obvious why.
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Aug 2, 2018 14:14
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Slutitution posted:There better be at least one scene of Godzilla loving up the American military in the upcoming film. Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if they add a comment that he is the likely cause for all of those nuclear submarines lost during the Cold War. Him trying to keep them from stirring up aquatic MUTOs, sort of a thing.
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Aug 2, 2018 14:21
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Yeah, I do not want one of my most favorite film icons turning into the loving dreck of Transformers films. The last 2 movies were absolute trash.
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Aug 2, 2018 14:27
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Xguard86 posted:Perfect Godzilla movie formula: Drop shots that remind us we are ants to 10%, add 20% of giant monsters being pals and teaming up to do cool poo poo.
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Aug 2, 2018 14:28
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Acceptable.
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Aug 2, 2018 14:29
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Davros1 posted:I equate it with the Bay Transformers series. Bay revels in filming so much action/destruction that it all becomes so boring as the film goes on. Godzilla 14 did it right by keeping the scenes to a minimum. Bayformers does have plenty of distractions from the action scenes though, they're just incredibly terrible and bizarrely cringey human comedy. (the guy with the age of consent law printout laminated in his pocket...)
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Aug 2, 2018 14:30
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Arcsquad12 posted:All would be forgiven if Godzilla and Muto's skirmish in Hawaii hadn't been relegated to a news report. It doesn't even need to be that long. Naw, the gag was worth it.
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Aug 2, 2018 14:59
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Godzilla vs. the MUTOs was just on the edge of becoming boring as it is, I think the movie has precisely the right amount of monster fights. We basically got to see everything a giant lizard with atomic breath and a giant bug can do to each other, not sure where else that fight could've gone that wouldn't have just been more of the same.
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Aug 2, 2018 15:05
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I remembered after my rewatch last night, G14 reminds me of a big cool dog. One of those big ones that just kind of obliviously does whatever he wants but never maliciously wrecks things, but sometimes it just happens because, welp, he's a big lad. And even though they shoot at him and stuff, he understands and its not gonna hurt him, so whatever. Also man those MUTOs are cool. I forgot that. And I do like the bit where they're in the nuclear things facility and they open one of the doors and oh poo poo, daylight and a big hole and a big monster peacing out. Also some day I hope a Godzilla film uses a bit of that Blue Oyster Cult (I think?) song
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Aug 2, 2018 15:08
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Davros1 posted:I equate it with the Bay Transformers series. Bay revels in filming so much action/destruction that it all becomes so boring as the film goes on. Godzilla 14 did it right by keeping the scenes to a minimum. Yep, I was going to say the something. Not only are the Godzilla scenes kept to a minimum to keep him special, but each of his individual scenes is special. Basically every time he's shown on screen is super bad rear end: - Stomping onto the airport - Being escorted around the world by the Navy - Getting attacked at the bridge - etc There's no fluff so you can easily remember how awesome the scenes are. Even the glimpses of him on TV are badass when he's fighting the Muto. I think it's the perfect Godzilla movie.
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Aug 2, 2018 15:12
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:The only time a knock down drag out fight has ever worked in a giant monster movie is War of the Gargantuas and it's pretty obvious why. Absolutely - the scale and the design of the suits really make the action in that movie pop in a totally different way than most other kaiju movies. I'm always surprised that War of the Gargantuas doesn't have as strong of a following as it deserves. It feels underrated even though the consensus on it is very positive.
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Aug 2, 2018 15:16
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Oops, I forgot to actually post what I came here to post https://twitter.com/mondomascots/status/1024844425153794048
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Aug 2, 2018 15:18
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Since were talking screen time here you go. Godzilla ‘14 has around 10 minutes of the big G, a full minute more than the original Godzilla.
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Aug 2, 2018 15:22
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While I love Godzilla '14 I think the complaints about it are off-base but kind of accurate. Instead of more Godzilla action there should probably just be less human stuff. It could absolutely be a shorter film. It has the perfect amount of big old monster fightin' though.
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Aug 2, 2018 15:25
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The only thing missing from the monster fights in G '14 was after he killed the male MUTO, he should have totally flipped him the finger.
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Aug 2, 2018 15:30
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Davros1 posted:I equate it with the Bay Transformers series. Bay revels in filming so much action/destruction that it all becomes so boring as the film goes on. Godzilla 14 did it right by keeping the scenes to a minimum.
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Aug 2, 2018 15:30
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Terrible Opinions posted:You say this as though Kong Skull Island didn't exist or wasn't boss as gently caress. I actually preferred the monster vs monster action in G14 over the action in Kong, G14's action felt more realistic as opposed to the more fluid motions of Kong and the Skullcrawlers.
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Aug 2, 2018 15:54
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Terrible Opinions posted:You say this as though Kong Skull Island didn't exist or wasn't boss as gently caress. Skull Island wasn't great because of the monster scenes, although those are very good. It's great because it's extremely colorful, very well shot, and well written. It has a solid cast of likeable characters, unlike Godzilla '14. It has a much better foundation.
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Aug 2, 2018 15:58
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I really don't think monster scenes need to be a way larger portion, after all Biollante is my favorite Godzilla movies, but just as a counter point to the idea that they for some reason need to be kept to a minimum.
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