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Imagine being one of those WC supporters cheering Gaff loudly after that punch. What the gently caress? I’ve seen plenty of Hawks do bad things on the footy field and I’ve never heard our crowd cheer them for it like that. You sit there and let the other team boo them, because they usually deserve it.
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realbez posted:Imagine being one of those WC supporters cheering Gaff loudly after that punch. What the gently caress? I’ve seen plenty of Hawks do bad things on the footy field and I’ve never heard our crowd cheer them for it like that. You sit there and let the other team boo them, because they usually deserve it. Yes but have you considered THE DARRRRBY
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Aug 6, 2018 02:03
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realbez posted:Imagine being one of those WC supporters cheering Gaff loudly after that punch. What the gently caress? I’ve seen plenty of Hawks do bad things on the footy field and I’ve never heard our crowd cheer them for it like that. You sit there and let the other team boo them, because they usually deserve it. West Coast fans should be locked out for the rest of the season. They can play in empty stadiums like the Filippino basketball team
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Aug 6, 2018 02:13
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realbez posted:Imagine being one of those WC supporters cheering Gaff loudly after that punch. What the gently caress? I’ve seen plenty of Hawks do bad things on the footy field and I’ve never heard our crowd cheer them for it like that. You sit there and let the other team boo them, because they usually deserve it. They said on the ABC that they never replayed the punch during the game, so a lot of people wouldn't have known about it, and just seen Gaff get targeted for the rest of the game.
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Aug 6, 2018 02:25
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Also chardonnay reportedly burns holes in the brain
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Aug 6, 2018 02:50
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Solemn Sloth posted:Yes but have you considered THE DARRRRBY It's pronounced derby
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Aug 6, 2018 02:58
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Gaff shouldn’t have been let back on. I’m really not up on the whole “red card” debate, how many sports don’t have some ability to immediately kick a player off for something like that? Also, why the gently caress are so many people defending this guy? “So our of character!”, gently caress, the poor victim is probably going to be having smoothies for what, 8 weeks? Ugh
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Aug 6, 2018 03:38
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Aug 6, 2018 03:42
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teacup posted:Gaff shouldn’t have been let back on. I’m really not up on the whole “red card” debate, how many sports don’t have some ability to immediately kick a player off for something like that? All of the major American sports can (ejections in baseball and American armor ball, two technical fouls/particularly egregious flagrant fouls in basketball, I think also in ice hockey, and red cards in soccer). Pro basketball hasn’t had anything nearly that bad in a dozen years or so (the Malice at the Palace) but through the 1980s fights and brawls happened somewhat often. Think your average jumper punch handbags, even that has been stamped out (which meant the Philippine vs Australia brawl recently brought out some “back in my day”-ism in the US sports scene).
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Aug 6, 2018 04:29
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Was at the game, had no idea what had happened besides some murmerings from people listening to the radio. Whole thing is hosed in hindsight but it's not odd for fans to support a star player in the moment without having a good idea of what went on. Gaff should never have returned to the ground, that's the mistake here. The argument against the Red Card, that being if a player is incorrectly sent off being too much of a penalty is crap. Put that power in the hands of the video ref, the couple of times this year when it would have been applied were instantly clear-cut on replay. What a poo poo fuckin way to end a weekend. I hope the book gets thrown at Gaff. I also hope the leadership group gets around him and lets him know he owes the team a couple of finals series because he's really hosed things for West Coast by rubbing himself out. I feel for Brayshaw's mum, she's already gone through extensive therapy to get over the anxiety of seeing Angus get knocked out so many times on the footy field, can't imagine what seeing a bloke king-hit her son has done to her.
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Aug 6, 2018 04:37
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Punching someone in the NFL would do more damage to your own hand. The minimum Gaff should get is ban that would see him out no matter how many finals they play - so 7 games. I'd prefer 8-10. It's just such a bad look. If society is screaming for tougher sentences for coward punchers then tough suspensions should apply to AFL footballers too.
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Aug 6, 2018 04:40
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masterpine posted:Was at the game, had no idea what had happened besides some murmerings from people listening to the radio. Whole thing is hosed in hindsight but it's not odd for fans to support a star player in the moment without having a good idea of what went on. Gaff should never have returned to the ground, that's the mistake here. The argument against the Red Card, that being if a player is incorrectly sent off being too much of a penalty is crap. Put that power in the hands of the video ref, the couple of times this year when it would have been applied were instantly clear-cut on replay. Not sure a video ref is a very practical solution for a league that can’t even tell main eggs from side eggs upon review
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gay picnic defence posted:Not sure a video ref is a very practical solution for a league that can’t even tell main eggs from side eggs upon review Fair point. I think the video ref idea is fine if you don't use AFL's joke version of video review as the starting point. It's comical how bad the video review system is.
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gay picnic defence posted:Not sure a video ref is a very practical solution for a league that can’t even tell main eggs from side eggs upon review I think the problem there is the AFL promises a big, all encompassing goal post/umpire hat/multi angle camera review system, and then turns around and says to FoxFooty and 7 "Please install these at your own expense", and FoxFooty replies "Only at Etihad because that's where most of our games are" and 7 says "We'll consider it after we complete our move to full HD broadcast in 2030" NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Aug 6, 2018 |
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Aug 6, 2018 04:55
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but think of how many execs they could employ on the “look of the game” committee with the money saved by glueing 3 megapixel webcams to the goal posts
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Aug 6, 2018 05:05
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Adelaide assistant coach Tate Kaesler wants goal posts that light up when the ball hits them, like scaled up versions of the light up bails/stumps from T20 cricket, and I agree with him because everything is better with LEDs
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Aug 6, 2018 05:09
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We can put LED's on the premiership cup as well like the big bash does
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Aug 6, 2018 05:11
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T20 has a lot of stupid poo poo in it, such as most of the stuff they lifted for AFLX, but the stumps and bails that light up when broken are one of the few good things to come out of it, because you get a crystal clear visual signal for the crowd, and they make it easier for the 3rd umpire to judge run outs/stumpings
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Aug 6, 2018 05:15
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The idea of Zinger Post's (tm) is very, very exciting to me. Premiership Cup should of course be replaced by the AFLX trophy, the clearly superior throphy.
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Aug 6, 2018 05:16
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Wouldn’t they go off when a player hits the post, though?
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Aug 6, 2018 05:17
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realbez posted:Wouldn’t they go off when a player hits the post, though? The amount of pressure required to set them off can be adjusted. Adapting it is not without challenges, but it should be doable. Soccer was able to adapt the Hawkeye tech from tennis and cricket into its goal line system. I mean if you're really boring you can ditch the light up part and have it buzz a wristband on the goal umpire like they do for goal line tech in soccer, but that's missing half the fun. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Aug 6, 2018 |
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Aug 6, 2018 05:34
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If the ball hits the post it should trigger an audio sample that booms “you blew it” over the entire ground
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Aug 6, 2018 05:59
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it should make either the “bah bowwwww” sound from family feud or the sad horn from price is right
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Aug 6, 2018 06:04
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It should just play canned laughter
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masterpine posted:The idea of Zinger Post's (tm) is very, very exciting to me. Premiership Cup should of course be replaced by the AFLX trophy, the clearly superior throphy. The cup should be replaced by a silver and gold KFC bucket on a plinth, which is filled up with chicken salted chips for the players to share with each other and fans during the lap of honour.
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Spedman posted:The cup should be replaced by a silver and gold KFC bucket on a plinth, which is filled up with chicken salted chips for the players to share with each other and fans during the lap of honour. Outrage erupts after the AFL refuse to change salt from KFC's proprietary blend to Mitani chicken salt after Adelaide win premiership.
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Schneider Inside Her posted:If the ball hits the post it should trigger an audio sample that booms “you blew it” over the entire ground Rig the point post up to play “out of bounds on the full” from the NES Aussie rules game
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Aug 6, 2018 06:44
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Gaff should get at least 6 weeks, but I don't think he meant to punch Brayshaw in the jaw. I think he threw that punch that you see players do all the time in games where they try to punch each other as hard as they can in the shoulder/collar area, and missed disastrously. They should probably start handing out at least a week for every punching motion that isn't directed at the ball. There would be a lot of suspensions very quickly, but it'd stop eventually.
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Aug 6, 2018 07:30
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realbez posted:They should probably start handing out at least a week for every punching motion that isn't directed at the ball. There would be a lot of suspensions very quickly, but it'd stop eventually. Agreed. Have to start treating the near misses, not just the severe impacts.
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Aug 6, 2018 07:35
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realbez posted:Gaff should get at least 6 weeks, but I don't think he meant to punch Brayshaw in the jaw. I think he threw that punch that you see players do all the time in games where they try to punch each other as hard as they can in the shoulder/collar area, and missed disastrously. I was just about to say the same thing. The AFL normalised punching by not punishing body taps/punches/elbows and jumper punches as hard as they should (if at all). It's not at all within the scope of the game; no player signs up to catch fists. Can you imagine NFL or NBA players punching opposition players in the gut, chest or collar off the ball or during a stop in play? Wouldn't loving fly. All this talk about rule changes to improve the look of the sport? An 18 year old, bloodied and missing teeth on the boundary is a real bad look. I hope it has them scrambling.
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Aug 6, 2018 07:42
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Gaff wouldn’t have punched him if he was in his assigned zone
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spamman posted:Agreed. Have to start treating the near misses, not just the severe impacts. That would require the AFL admitting their "we judge force almost entirely by the outcome" stance is bullshit, which has a 0% chance of happening.
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NTRabbit posted:The amount of pressure required to set them off can be adjusted. Adapting it is not without challenges, but it should be doable. Soccer was able to adapt the Hawkeye tech from tennis and cricket into its goal line system. (When I discussed this on the toots someone suggested the rebounds should remain in play but then someone else said that would likely lead to people mucking around near the post contesting the ball and possibly getting Hodged.) Likewise for the behind post - behind if it goes over the line on the inside, throw-in/OOBF free kick otherwise. Wouldn't entirely do away with goal reviews but at least you wouldn't need ZINGER POST JFC.
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Aug 6, 2018 09:05
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But that doesn't solve the issue of what happened in the Showdown, where a ball appears to graze the post but no footage articulates it enough to overturn the on field decision
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Aug 6, 2018 09:13
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NTRabbit posted:But that doesn't solve the issue of what happened in the Showdown, where a ball appears to graze the post but no footage articulates it enough to overturn the on field decision The idea probably wouldn't get accepted because it is a fairly fundamental shift in how posts are treated for scoring purposes, but still, if people want ideas, that's one, and I don't think it's that disruptive as some of the other things that have come out of Gillon McWonka's Stupid Idea Factory. But for the Showdown one, the implementation of this rule would've been a clear goal as it crossed the line even if it brushed the post.
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Aug 6, 2018 09:23
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NTRabbit posted:But that doesn't solve the issue of what happened in the Showdown, where a ball appears to graze the post but no footage articulates it enough to overturn the on field decision Yeah it does, it went through the goals so it’s a goal, even if it hit the post on the way through. The only grey area left is the ball that is so high it goes over the post.
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Aug 6, 2018 09:30
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realbez posted:The only grey area left is the ball that is so high it goes over the post.
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But that’s solved by goal posts with fricken laser beams on their heads.
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