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fruit on the bottom posted:I mean it’s still kinda weird but at least he’s perving on his own wife and not jacking it to child porn like that ruroni Kenshin guy. loving what i mean i don't want to know any more but just jesus christ i was watching that on netflix like a week ago ugh Edit: a shameful snipe. Have some content. I feel like the entire 2000's David Walliams and Matt Lucas... thing has aged spectacularly poorly. Almost every joke is just painfully unfunny, and I have no idea why for like... a good few years it was a cultural phenomenon here in the UK Hattie Masters has a new favorite as of 16:25 on Aug 13, 2018 |
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Hattie Masters posted:I feel like the entire 2000's David Walliams and Matt Lucas... thing has aged spectacularly poorly. Almost every joke is just painfully unfunny, and I have no idea why for like... a good few years it was a cultural phenomenon here in the UK
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Krispy Wafer posted:How about a Venn diagram of people who cite Venn diagrams but don't know how to use them? That does beg the question: what do you think is the over/under on that?
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Sunswipe posted:Beats me, I (at the risk of sounding hipster) thought they were unfunny shite at the time. Just that weird phenomena where someone or something becomes undeservedly popular for a couple of years before society at large regains its senses. Like the couple of years Chris O'Donnell was somehow a massive movie star, featuring opposite people like Al Pacino. Sam Worthington and Shia Lebouf? Though those seem more of a result of some ill-advised Hollywood bet.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It's a weird manga, don't shoot the messenger. Sanji kind of deserves it but he doesn't learn his lesson at all, instead being even weirder around women for a while after, and it doesn't help he then goes to a kingdom with lots of beautiful mermaids. (Should be said that women actually are attracted to Sanji when he's capable of acting like a normal person for five minutes. Also for context, the magical cooking techniques are something he deliberately sought out, since he is a cook himself and very proud of it) While I'm sure the former has nothing to do with this, that arc in DBSuper had me wondering something along the lines of the following... Anime/manga has seemingly gotten a huge pass in the West from fandom that are extremely critical of similar themes or gimmicks in Western media. It always has, to a point, within the fandom. As that anime scene has started to become more normalized in the US, I can't help but wonder if everyone involved are starting to be a bit concerned over an eventual turn in the fandom against content. That issue, and as creators they are also more aware of tastes and attitudes in Western audiences and a need to craft content from the start with them in mind. I know people have argued against that in the past. Despite the fact Western entertainment is often heavily influenced by trying to appeal to an international audience, the idea that non-Western entertainment doing the same things feels like it's disregarded as a possibility. edit: Maybe NOT just the West, either. About 3-4 years ago, I remember hearing something about a relatively notable increase in positive relations between China and Japan, in which even anime was mentioned as benefiting from that. That, too, might be dictating to some creators how they go forward with new content if they similarly plan to sell to that population, too. JediTalentAgent has a new favorite as of 17:04 on Aug 13, 2018 |
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I think the way people see trans people in Japan is very different than in America, and a lot of anime fans take that into consideration. Sensible ones who aren't huge weeaboos will use it to give more leeway to stuff like Ouran High School Host Club, but are still critical about this stuff. Many fans just want to watch stuff without having to think too hard about it's problems or feel bad about it. Speaking of this sort of thing, I've never seen Ranma 1/2. How bad is it?
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JediTalentAgent posted:Anime/manga has seemingly gotten a huge pass in the West from fandom that are extremely critical of similar themes or gimmicks in Western media. ehhhh, not really i think. maybe i'm in the wrong anime communities, but the fans i know are all incredibly inclusive and also vocal about social issues in shows.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Sam Worthington and Shia Lebouf? Maybe a couple of Hollywood bigshots have a Trading Places style bet every few years, so we end up with Shia in Indy 4 while a really good actor who looks like a young Harrison Ford is waiting tables and still wondering why he didn't get the part.
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Sunswipe posted:Beats me, I (at the risk of sounding hipster) thought they were unfunny shite at the time. Just that weird phenomena where someone or something becomes undeservedly popular for a couple of years before society at large regains its senses. Like the couple of years Chris O'Donnell was somehow a massive movie star, featuring opposite people like Al Pacino. I am still confused about James Corden
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spog posted:I am still confused about James Corden People always enjoy a harmless jolly fat white guy
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jojoinnit posted:People always enjoy a harmless jolly fat white guy That is how I got so far in life
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Sam Worthington and Shia Lebouf? I don't think Worthington was ever popular, he was just...there.
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Alhazred posted:I don't think Worthington was ever popular, he was just...there. I had to go look up Sam Worthington to remember who he was. I have seen Avatar and Terminator Salvation, neither is a movie I would like to revisit.
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Hattie Masters posted:
There's a lot of UK comedy from that era that fell out of fashion super fast: League of Gentleman, etc. I remember people who were ardent fans of early series turning on later series that were seemingly identical. Which is part of the problem. They all hammered their stock characters and repeated their catchphrases endlessly. And the humour was fairly base monkey-cheese randomness or lessened on gross out material which didn't help longevity. But yes, it was a cultural phenomena. Everyone recognised the references.
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Sam Worthington is going to be huge when those Avatar sequels come out. I remember Hollywood people thinking Shia Lebouf would be a normal and bankable young actor since a lot of them were going crazy around that time.
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Krispy Wafer posted:Sam Worthington is going to be huge when those Avatar sequels come out. I feel like Avatar 4 and 5 will get silently axed after Avatar 2 flops hard.
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Peeny Cheez posted:And the whole "go and win that incredibly gay contest!" sort of stuff also doesn't come off all that great either ...and it is truly unfortunate because I was like fourteen and I have zero respect for motorcycle cops so I think of it every single time to this day and I feel bad about myself, that's my story.
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Iron Crowned posted:I feel like Avatar 4 and 5 will get silently axed after Avatar 2 flops hard. Is there anyone actually excited for Avatar 2? It feels like everyone saw the first one in theaters and then by and large totally forgot about it.
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There's those people who went nuts and had a mental break because they couldn't be on the magical alien elf planet. They're probably really excited for it. http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/11/avatar.movie.blues/index.html
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Is there anyone actually excited for Avatar 2? It feels like everyone saw the first one in theaters and then by and large totally forgot about it. Really, I think the only reason Avatar 1 was such a big deal was the spectacle of it. It was a 3D movie when 3D was making a comeback, and it didn't use any 3D specific gags the way that most 3D films shoehorn in. It was neat to look at. I still can't believe that there are still 4 sequels on the slate. It was primed for a second if it had been 2 or 3 years, as opposed to the 10 we're at now.
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At this point they can just wait a few more years for late-'00s franchise nostalgia to be in vogue.
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Krispy Wafer posted:Sam Worthington is going to be huge when those Avatar sequels come out. Shia was good in that holes movie. He could have been the next McCauley caulking.
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No one cares much now, but a lot of people will be interested because of the Disney park, and once there is advertising and trailers it will gain hype. I mean, I'll definitely see it, but that's different from saying I'm excited for it. They get my money either way, though.
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The Bloop posted:No one cares much now, but a lot of people will be interested because of the Disney park, and once there is advertising and trailers it will gain hype. I dunno, 10 years ago I would have been excited about new Star Wars movies, but the only one I've seen is Rogue One , and that was because it was on because it was on Netflix. So, maybe I'll see Avatar 2 if it's on Netflix
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Aesop Poprock posted:On the other hand Mr 2 Bon Clay is probably the most heroic and selfless figure in the entire story and Ivankov is a really powerful good guy too even though they’re both huge stereotypes from the same pervert island so it’s basically a case of Japan having no idea how to handle poo poo like that In Ivankov's defense, they're basically a giant copypasta of Dr. Frankenfurter, who is not a character that is famous for their subtlety, and seems to have received a free pass for character traits that would probably be seen as mad problematic had Rocky Horror come out as a new thing in this day and age, rather than when it did.
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Avatar the original movie looked stupid, but then made more money than Titanic. James Cameron has a gift. I can’t bet against the guy.
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Krispy Wafer posted:Avatar the original movie looked stupid, but then made more money than Titanic. James Cameron's gift is making movies to justify the cost of the new toys he wants. With Titanic it was submersibles With Avatar it was 3D Avatar 2 is supposed to be both, and he has some pretty visionary ideas about 3D and theaters, but yeah I'm willing to give him quite a lot of rope
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spog posted:I am still confused about James Corden What I've heard is that he has a pretty unctuous personality around famous people and is really easily awed by celebrities, which is part of why he got ahead in as a television presenter on awards shows and talk show more than anyone else from the original cast of The History Boys (yes, Dominic Cooper has had more success as an actor, but as a media personality, Corden's the one who really hit the big time). Example: remember when disgraced propagandist Sean Spicer appeared at the Emmys or the Golden Globes and guys like Jason Isaacs and Ron Perlman (and others, but they're the first who came to mind) were immediately on Twitter saying, "This is ridiculous; Sean Spicer is a disgraced propagandist and we shouldn't be feting him at awards shows." Meanwhile, photos came out of Corden schmoozing with him backstage. I don't know, maybe I'm unfair but watch any Carpool Karaoke and that's the impression of him I get.
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Krispy Wafer posted:Avatar the original movie looked stupid, but then made more money than Titanic. So will Avatar 2 be what finally destroys the MCU?
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Wheat Loaf posted:What I've heard is that he has a pretty unctuous personality around famous people and is really easily awed by celebrities, which is part of why he got ahead in as a television presenter on awards shows and talk show more than anyone else from the original cast of The History Boys (yes, Dominic Cooper has had more success as an actor, but as a media personality, Corden's the one who really hit the big time). I learned a new word today, and it's a perfect description of him. Thanks.
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Iron Crowned posted:So will Avatar 2 be what finally destroys the MCU? Now I wish we had a James Cameron MCU movie, but with Linda Hamilton as Black Widow and a still living Bill Paxton as Bruce Banner. Now I wish we had a still living Bill Paxton.
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the_steve posted:In Ivankov's defense, they're basically a giant copypasta of Dr. Frankenfurter, who is not a character that is famous for their subtlety, and seems to have received a free pass for character traits that would probably be seen as mad problematic had Rocky Horror come out as a new thing in this day and age, rather than when it did. There's also Inazuma who is, for One Piece, an extremely normal looking person who switches between male and female more or less on a whim. Outside of Luffy's initial confusion no one ever brings it up or makes a big deal out of it.
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JediTalentAgent posted:While I'm sure the former has nothing to do with this, that arc in DBSuper had me wondering something along the lines of the following... I would say it's probably similar to how pro wrestling has evolved in the way it's heading. Pro wrestling almost world wide has become incredibly more left leaning and nerdy and the fans are very critical of sexism and homophobia now and it's one of the reasons even WWE lead by creepy old weirdo Vince McMahon have had to change their product and make it more inclusive, and why groups like the Bullet Club were able to sell out a 10,000+ seat arena for the first time in.... literally ever based off a stable and not a major promotion. There are still a lot of lovely wrestling fans but in terms of nerdy interests it's probably one of the most pro lgbtq and feminist out there at the moment Anime seems like it's improving, but it still has weird setbacks like when Sword Art Online went from charming and cool gender equal story in the first arc to "the girl is stolen by a rapist and the main character and his sister have a romance thing going on" in the second one and it got extremely uncomfortable and pervy
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Speaking for myself I’m also hesitant to call out stuff from other cultures just because “oh here’s the American telling the Japanese how to run their poo poo” angle feels a little weird
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Sword Art Online also had the female lead go from being a super badass who leads one of the largest guilds in the game and is arguably just as good of a fighter as the main character to waifu who is completely sidelined for the second story arc and then after that she just kind of hangs around. Hattie Masters posted:loving what Yeah, it was super gross he was caught by the police with multiple DVDs of child porn and the most that came out of it was a fine.
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Sunswipe posted:Beats me, I (at the risk of sounding hipster) thought they were unfunny shite at the time. Just that weird phenomena where someone or something becomes undeservedly popular for a couple of years before society at large regains its senses. Like the couple of years Chris O'Donnell was somehow a massive movie star, featuring opposite people like Al Pacino. I feel like this has more to do with age and youth than anything else. I feel like it happens more frequently with women too.
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Krispy Wafer posted:Now I wish we had a James Cameron MCU movie, but with Linda Hamilton as Black Widow and a still living Bill Paxton as Bruce Banner. But Bill Paxton is already in the MCU! (And I thought Linda Hamilton but I confused her in Chuck with Lucy Lawless in Agents of SHIELD.)
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I started the X-Files again after picking up the complete set on BD, I've only seen the first season and a half or so before. It's aged fine but it's just extremely funny to me that they effectively just made The Thing in an episode lol
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Krispy Wafer posted:Now I wish we had a James Cameron MCU movie, but with Linda Hamilton as Black Widow and a still living Bill Paxton as Bruce Banner. I really want a dimension-crossing Spider-Man movie with every live action version of Spidey.
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And Italy!
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