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Dave saying it sucks and his apology is a mess to most people who would need to hear it but he is in a Catch-22 because in his mind it is ruder to say she has fake breasts and it would likely be just as bad of a reaction because saying she had breast enhancement surgery can be construed as 1) her previous bust was not considered good enough, either by Peyton herself or another party, so she was 'lacking' and had to get it 'fixed' 2) her current bust being the result of surgery means she is 'fake' 3) her value lies solely in her looks, so she had to get surgery and all 3 of those opinions would immediately get attributed to something Dave himself believes, regardless if he (or anyone) harbors those opinions or not, just because he said a fact that can be interpreted as something else. And no matter who you are, in what industry, somebody somewhere doesn't like you and the internet gives that person a golden opportunity to drag you through the mud for something they believe you said that you believe in Dave's still a weirdy tho
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The_Rob posted:The outcry on those tweets didn't seem genuine at all. They didn't even read like he people who were supposed to be writing them. I really think wwe wants to discredit Dave so they can control the full wrestling narrative. Also, THIS. There's so much money at stake now for everyone, it's hard to believe this isn't the case. I don't doubt for a second that someone in the company, be it Vince or someone close to him, put out a message to others saying... "look at what he said! We gotta stick up for our women," when really, it's just to control the narrative by discrediting those that make fans think about match quality and writing. Or to theorize an even more vindictive and cynical angle, "stick it to him and his indie geeks who think they can run venues like MSG." It's a combination of deliberate attacks with an underlying purpose along with white knight bandwagoners who just want to signal to others how caring they are too except for the actual wrestlers who join in know WWE stooges are reviewing their every tweet and just want to make sure they get some brownie points with Vince and the gang for toeing the line of the day.
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Yeah Dave isn't a medical provider for Peyton so uhhh HIPAA has nothing to do with this. Unless he is? Dr. Dave?
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Jenkem Delivery posted:Yeah Dave isn't a medical provider for Peyton so uhhh HIPAA has nothing to do with this. Unless he is? Dr. Dave? La periodista enmascarado, Dr. Meltzer Jr.
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Aug 16, 2018 18:28
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Dave gets his scoops by interrogating his wrestling patients while they're coming out of anesthesia, I thought everyone knew this
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Gumball Gumption posted:Also Alvaraz has dodged a hell of a bullet here by being a flunky. its hosed up because if youre going to poo poo on anyone, poo poo on alvarez for being the guy who half the time has nothing to say about a woman other than how hot she is, to the point that even filthy tom will fully no sell it and do the dead air into transition like "................yeah. so samoa joe said hes gonna beat aj blah blah."
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Aug 16, 2018 18:38
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Peyton Royce should burn a copy of the Wrestling Observer on Smackdown
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MotU posted:Dave saying it sucks and his apology is a mess to most people who would need to hear it but he is in a Catch-22 because in his mind it is ruder to say she has fake breasts and it would likely be just as bad of a reaction because saying she had breast enhancement surgery can be construed as meanwhile anyone who knows wwe knows that peyton got to the main roster and then dunn went "WHAT SHE NEEDS ARE SOME TITS!!!" then him, triple h, and vince all laughed for an hour straight and told peyton they'd pay for it and give her time off and a raise.
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Aug 16, 2018 18:41
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The funniest part of all this is Russo's weirdo fans now trying to argue that Dave should be banned from that All In weekend thing since Russo was.
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Your Parents posted:its hosed up because if youre going to poo poo on anyone, poo poo on alvarez for being the guy who half the time has nothing to say about a woman other than how hot she is, to the point that even filthy tom will fully no sell it and do the dead air into transition like "................yeah. so samoa joe said hes gonna beat aj blah blah." he's made fun of owens & chris hero for like 10 years now. "i'm sure he's a nice guy" 
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Aug 16, 2018 19:03
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Dave said something dumb(again) and WWE is using it as leverage to silence journalism critical to their product. That's kind of a big deal.
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illcendiary posted:But I guess my point is this. When you do something lovely, it’s not wrong for someone to call you out, and when you apologize and the apology kinda sucks, it’s not wrong to get called out on that either. Doesn’t have to be a referendum on the totality of the person. So, I'll try to avoid being incendiary, but Dave absolutely did address that his initial apology on Twitter was poorly worded and that he wasn't thinking enough about it. To be fair, it was like... 27 minutes into the apology, so I don't blame someone for not remembering that. He's also been active on Twitter and doubly so on this morning's WOR saying pretty plainly that he appreciates people who stuck up for him, but he absolutely did gently caress up and needed to apologize. Like, I'm someone who I think understood what he'd attempted to say originally, still thought it was really not cool, and that his initial apology wasn't very good either. What he said on WOR went a long way to rectifying that, and I do think there's some merit to the people piling on being disingenuous in their criticism. EugeneJ posted:Also wanted to avoid a HIPAA violation lawsuit, I'd guess.
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bryan live tweeting the problems he’s encountering on his way to vegas is good comic relief
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i cannot talk about Boob Jobs as it would be a NIIPA violation
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coconono posted:Dave said something dumb(again) and WWE is using it as leverage to silence journalism critical to their product. That's kind of a big deal. 
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illcendiary posted:But I guess my point is this. When you do something lovely, it’s not wrong for someone to call you out, and when you apologize and the apology kinda sucks, it’s not wrong to get called out on that either. Doesn’t have to be a referendum on the totality of the person. how does your star ratings scale for apologies work
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Aug 16, 2018 20:37
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Something something in the Tokyo Dome
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What'd you think of the Hogan apology, Dave? Well, it was. It was just an apology. Actually it really wasn't an apology, but, well... ...y'know.
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Aug 16, 2018 20:49
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Dave's apology is like one of those old Ring of Honor main events where they just keep going 10-15 minutes longer than they should and kick out of way too many finishers.
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CVagts posted:Dave's apology is like one of those old Ring of Honor main events where they just keep going 10-15 minutes longer than they should and kick out of way too many finishers. So, good?
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Aug 16, 2018 22:44
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BBC did a newspiece about it https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-45214183
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Aug 16, 2018 23:08
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At first I assumed that was some pet journo of WWE's writing a hit piece on Dave but really it was just a dude hitting ctrl-c on a bunch of tweets, writing a summary and then hitting post.
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Aug 16, 2018 23:18
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The PR class guy was right, the worst thing you can do is admit you ever did anything wrong.
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Aug 16, 2018 23:21
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Big Dave should have doubled down with some Scott Steiner levels of body shaming.
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Dave's weirdness aside, I really don't understand how anybody could listen to his apology and not think he was utterly genuine in saying he hosed up big time and was really, really sorry about it. This sure as hell isn't the same thing as Hulk Hogan saying,"I am really sorry I got caught, and in the future I will be very careful to not be recorded being a huge racist, and you should all be careful not to be recorded being huge racists as well."
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VJeff posted:At first I assumed that was some pet journo of WWE's writing a hit piece on Dave but really it was just a dude hitting ctrl-c on a bunch of tweets, writing a summary and then hitting post. Welcome to journalism since 2010.
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Chris James 2 posted:BBC did a newspiece about it https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-45214183 How do you accuse anyone of "body shaming" and insisting she's perfect the way she is when she got a boob job right before going up the main roster?
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The more I think of this the grumpier I get about the faux outrage from WWE. It feels a bit tinfoil hat to say all of the tweets from wrestlers is manufactured but either way they feel really hollow when WWE is a company who in recent history has called Mickie James fat, ugly and old. They've called Nia Jax fat and did that awful bullying angle. They've called Ruby Riott ugly and weird. They make all of the women wear long hair or extensions. I'm just surprised at how many people I've seen on twitter who'll suddenly carry water for WWE because Dave said something lovely when it really feels like they're both real bad.
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Gumball Gumption posted:It feels a bit tinfoil hat to say all of the tweets from wrestlers is manufactured In fairness some completely are https://twitter.com/BellaTwins/status/1030167906800361473 Watch WWE's women's only PPV Evolution, don't forget to #JoinTheEvolution, only on the Network later this year is WWE's Evolution
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Aug 17, 2018 01:17
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Oh boy, I missed that one. Looks like an SEO wrote it
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I can completely believe Nikki wrote that tweet herself because it's fake as poo poo.Gumball Gumption posted:I'm just surprised at how many people I've seen on twitter who'll suddenly carry water for WWE because Dave said something lovely when it really feels like they're both real bad. This neatly summarizes the whole thing for me. https://twitter.com/DavidC_Ramirez/status/1029821329707548672 It's far less about what he said than the fact that he criticizes Almighty WWE.
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Aug 17, 2018 02:12
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Dave still hasn't reported on Tama Tonga getting detained by US customs for having a large sum of undeclared money.
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coconono posted:Dave still hasn't reported on Tama Tonga getting detained by US customs for having a large sum of undeclared money. Uhhhhhh. Wha?
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Aug 17, 2018 02:21
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https://twitter.com/Tama_Tonga/status/1028883271914905601 no snitchin
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What did randy do
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ICHIBAHN posted:What did randy do Recently fingered a co-worker.
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ICHIBAHN posted:What did randy do He had a habit of taking his dick out in front of writers, handling it, putting it away and then offering them a handshake. If they wouldn't he'd dramatically proclaim they were big-leaguing him and he was going to tell Stephanie and HHH about their bad attitude.
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Jerusalem posted:Dave's weirdness aside, I really don't understand how anybody could listen to his apology and not think he was utterly genuine in saying he hosed up big time and was really, really sorry about it. Here's the difference. Large money corporations and boardrooms all say the n word and hate women, and they want Hulk back because he's a famous nostalgia man and want Dave gone because he actually talks about worker's rights
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Dave should not have apologized for something he said that was taken out of context. All that does is make the social media lynch mob feel justified, which is incredibly dangerous. People lose their lives over this kind of stuff. Dave should apologize for apologizing.
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Summerslam is this weekend and people care more about Dave being Dave than it.
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