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The_Doctor posted:Odds on Tennant/Capaldi making cameos? You would think Tennant would be a dead cert given they've worked with him before he was the Doctor, had him in for a couple of boxes, and apparently have a third one coming out based on convention talk Capaldi seems less likely
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The_Doctor posted:She's from West Yorkshire. That's the North. According to people in the south who haven't ever been north of Oxford. She's from the midlands. (It should be noted that Christopher Eccleston is not from the north either) MrL_JaKiri fucked around with this message at 10:00 on Aug 20, 2018 |
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MrL_JaKiri posted:According to people in the south who haven't ever been north of Oxford. She's from the midlands. You have some very weird personal definition of the North then.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:
MY IMMERSION
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The_Doctor posted:You have some very weird personal definition of the North then. Nobody living south of Dunnet Head can be a true northerner.
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Box of Bunnies posted:I wanted to make a joke about Timelord Anthony calling everyone in for his birthday but then I saw that they're actually doing River meets Benny and was too excited to be pithy  About time!
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Guys, guys don’t argue, you are all soft southerners for living anywhere in England.
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marktheando posted:Guys, guys don’t argue, you are all soft southerners for living anywhere in England. This reminds me of the time I had to patiently explain to a confused fellow American why the Irish lady she was talking to had just taken great offense at being asked "so are you from England?"
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But we can all agree there are plenty of true Scotsmen, right?
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Writers for S11: https://twitter.com/dwpageofficial/status/1031491339236651009 Next BR set? https://twitter.com/TheCyberdevil/status/1031460440616968192
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Huh, with Malorie Blackman there, I feel infinitely better about the Rosa Parks episode. She's a very good writer.
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Sydney Bottocks posted:This reminds me of the time I had to patiently explain to a confused fellow American why the Irish lady she was talking to had just taken great offense at being asked "so are you from England?" One of my co-workers when I worked in insurance said to an Irish UPS guy "Oh, I just had a vacation there! We were in London!" He said "Actually, I'm Irish," and hoo boy, would she not relent. That UPS guy had the patience of a saint for explaining, very slowly and in words that she could understand, that they were different countries. The woman was in her 50s, I have no idea how she survived a trip to London.
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The_Doctor posted:You have some very weird personal definition of the North then. One that's common among people who live in the actual north. To sway into politics for a second, the definition of the north which includes Manchester (which is pretty solidly in the middle third of the country, about 60% of the way up) has meant that any government spending "for the north" has gone to the bits people from London go to, which means Manchester and maybe Leeds at a stretch. County Durham, which is one of the poorest parts of Europe and is about a hundred miles north of what you described as "the North", gets nothing except massive spending cuts. On top of that, the areas starting around Stockton, including Darlington, Durham, Sunderland, Newcastle, and on to places like Alnwick, also have a very different culture and political background to Sheffield, Leeds, Manchester, Liverpool, as does Cumbria. Although England's problems with defining what "The North" is are nothing compared to France's, where the North starts around Lyon.
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Running through their IMDB pages, I'm unfamiliar with almost all their work, which should be interesting. McTigue and Chibnall are the only ones with extensive TV experience it looks like, so this is absolutely the definition of fresh blood and new ideas. Vinay Patel in particular seems like an up-and-coming screenwriter with some real talent, and Malorie Blackman seems like the perfect kind of writer for the material, given the topics of her novels. I'm excited! Looks like a great team.
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Sweet. I'll be glad to replace all my DVD sets with these blu-rays to make more room on my shelves.
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CommonShore posted:Need a date for the premiere Yeah, we're less than two weeks from September here. When's my Doctor Who airing?
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I'm frum West Yorkshire. It's int North. Owt below Woodall services is int Midlands, ort South. (Although I've lived on the South Coast for 25 years now, so it took real effort to work out the phonetics!)
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Malorie Blackman's Noughts & Crosses means so much to me. I grew up in a v white area and went to a bigoted private school. The books were sensitive and kind in giving me the inner world and external tragedies of how many people actually experience this dead dumb earth. I still remember the last scene of the first book and also the put upon idealistic lawyer with the messy desk in the lovely neighbourhood, feeling so hopeless against steely systematic oppression. I'm so happy she is crossing my path again <3
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If you're a Londoner, anyone living above Essex is from the North and probably poor.
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Lampsacus posted:Malorie Blackman's Noughts & Crosses means so much to me. I grew up in a v white area and went to a bigoted private school. The books were sensitive and kind in giving me the inner world and external tragedies of how many people actually experience this dead dumb earth. I still remember the last scene of the first book and also the put upon idealistic lawyer with the messy desk in the lovely neighbourhood, feeling so hopeless against steely systematic oppression. I'm so happy she is crossing my path again <3 My boyfriend is very happy for similar reasons. Her books and Whizziwig did it for him.
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Lampsacus posted:Malorie Blackman's Noughts & Crosses means so much to me. I grew up in a v white area and went to a bigoted private school. The books were sensitive and kind in giving me the inner world and external tragedies of how many people actually experience this dead dumb earth. I still remember the last scene of the first book and also the put upon idealistic lawyer with the messy desk in the lovely neighbourhood, feeling so hopeless against steely systematic oppression. I'm so happy she is crossing my path again <3 Hmm, not sure about this... providing hope in the face of seemingly insurmountable oppression? That doesn't sound very Doctor Who. 
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Jesus. Stay away from Twitter right now. Apparently, some of the "old" fans of Who are having a go at some of the "new" fans of Who for finding some of the aspects of "Weng Chiang" problematic.
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CityMidnightJunky posted:If you're a Londoner, anyone living above Essex is from the North and probably poor. I must confess I've developed a bit of a dislike of London in the time I've been living here these past few months. It's too loud, too crowded, too noisy and too hot. I will be happy to back home again (Belfast) when my year here is up. Much nicer.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I must confess I've developed a bit of a dislike of London in the time I've been living here these past few months. It's too loud, too crowded, too noisy and too hot. I will be happy to back home again (Belfast) when my year here is up. Much nicer. 2007 I moved from London to Baton Rouge, Louisiana for uni, and came back in 2011. Now I've had enough again of London for very similar reasons although adding in 'too expensive', and am uprooting to Berlin very soon (while I still can... thanks, Brexit).
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I enjoy loud and crowded but "expensive" is unfortunately the reason it's hard to live in most cities.
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Davros1 posted:Jesus. Stay away from Twitter right now. Apparently, some of the "old" fans of Who are having a go at some of the "new" fans of Who for finding some of the aspects of "Weng Chiang" problematic. What could be offensive about a man in yellowface doing an outrageously stereotypical accent (And is Gareth Roberts on the side of the oldies, because he's the most hateful idiot)
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Davros1 posted:Jesus. Stay away from Twitter right now. Evergreen advice Old Who fans (the bad ones) have been defensive of Weng Chiang for years. Honestly, as much as the yellowface irritates me it’s the Doctor participating in the racism (“little men” and “epicanthic eyebrows,” jeezus) that left the worst taste in my mouth. It also has Leela’s one really egregious moment of being damseled, just to ice the poo poo on a little more
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I really like The Talons of Weng-Chiang for a lot of reasons (Jago & Litefoot, Four being Sherlock Holmes, the Victorian setting works well for having us identify more with Leela's "savage" sensibilities rather than the "civilized ones," etc, etc), but that doesn't excuse its racism. I don't know why people find it so hard to admit that stuff they like has problems.
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Bicyclops posted:I don't know why people find it so hard to admit that stuff they like has problems. Some people just have racist attitudes and that's all there is to it with them, but I think a lot of people fall into this fallacious position where they decide that being a fan of something - even something that's otherwise very good like "Talons" - means they have to defend even the indefensible parts of it. That doesn't really seem to be the case here, though. Russell T Davies has described "Talons" as one of his all-time favourite Who stories and I doubt he would hesitate to acknowledge that there is racism in it.
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misadventurous posted:Evergreen advice It's especially galling because we had the Third Doctor engage with a Chinese military officer who happened to be a woman (AND ACTUALLY ASIAN- not sure if she was Chinese or not but she wasn't White!) and You know Not be a racist poo poo head
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Cruel Rose posted:https://www.bigfinish.com/news/v/doctor-who-the-legacy-of-time The Sixth Doctor and his companion Charlotte Pollard I really hope that's a typo because otherwise that gigantic crack noise you heard was my brain trying to process how that pairing would even go. Chokes McGee fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Aug 20, 2018 |
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Bicyclops posted:Yeah, we're less than two weeks from September here. When's my Doctor Who airing? it's doctor who not doctor when 
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Chokes McGee posted:The Sixth Doctor and his companion Charlotte Pollard Still early in the Main Range, I take it. You're in for some surprises.
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Bicyclops posted:Still early in the Main Range, I take it. You're in for some surprises. I got as far as Zagraius and the start of the Divergent universe before I hit the end of what's free on Spotify from main range. Now I have to pay money and I'm extremely cheap  At least I still have Master and Davros left! I skipped Flip Flop though, just from what little I've heard I feel like my brain would eat itself trying to get to the end of both discs.
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The argument for Talons seems to be: "Well, it was acceptable back then, so just go with it", and the more egregious one "I know someone who's Chinese and they don't think it's racist, so it's ok". Which is bollocks.
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Jodie’s from Skelmanthorpe near Denby Dale. Denby Dale railway station is operated by Northern. Hence she’s from the North. 
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"We must assess racism and sexism based upon the times in which their creators expressed those sentiments" is so often code for "It's old-ish, so anything goes!" too. Burkion's right, too, Doctor Who itself already had a history of being better, the 70s isn't an excuse.
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Talons is one of my favorite Who stories, but boy howdy there is a ton of racist poo poo in it and you'd be a fool to claim otherwise.egon_beeblebrox posted:Sweet. I'll be glad to replace all my DVD sets with these blu-rays to make more room on my shelves. Yep, so long as they keep all the extras that came with the DVDs in the first place.
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Chokes McGee posted:I skipped Flip Flop though, just from what little I've heard I feel like my brain would eat itself trying to get to the end of both discs. I mean, half the plot can be summed up as "alien invasion via political correctness" so, you know, did you really want to listen to it anyway?
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