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big crush on Chad OMG posted:Shops often will store it for you and remind you when it’s time to swap winter tires on.
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:CO tire op: everyone is telling you to get proper winter tires and you’re the goon at the bottom of the well. Ding ding ding Snow tires are so good. Tiredirect yourself some tires with wheels on em and your annual swap will be free and take 5 minutes at most tire chains. Find a place to store em. You live in a studio with no patio, I take it?
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Your description of a Fort Collins winter sounds like a good fit for winter tires. Seems similar to Germany where I lived for years and winter tires are required by law, and it made so much sense. As long as temps are reliably dipping down into the 40s or below, this is objectively the safer and all around better option. Definitely look into local businesses offering off-season storage.
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Sits on Pilster posted:Your description of a Fort Collins winter sounds like a good fit for winter tires. Seems similar to Germany where I lived for years and winter tires are required by law, and it made so much sense. As long as temps are reliably dipping down into the 40s or below, this is objectively the safer and all around better option. Definitely look into local businesses offering off-season storage. Thank you for helping me correct my misconception without being goony about it. I've got a good relationship with a shop in town and I'll check with them.
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HenryJLittlefinger posted:Thank you for helping me correct my misconception without being goony about it. I've got a good relationship with a shop in town and I'll check with them. Don't be petty - KGJ gave you fine advice you were just too caught up with being called out to really appreciate it.
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n8r posted:Want to message me some info? Looking at your posts you’re in Seattle? I’m in Wenatchee and still car shopping. Due to some life stuff being up in the air we probably won't be selling it until September, but feel free to shoot me an email to casdadiaautos ( a ) gmail and I will give you a shout when we are selling. Also, someone mentioned the CX-9. We will probably take a look at those but I think the rear cargo space is too small for our stroller to fit. Maybe not. Also, based on prices I am leaning towards the Kia Sedona despite pretty lackluster reviews of the handling.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:The always insufferable EAT FASTER strikes again sorry my advice is good?
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:sorry my advice is good? (it is a reference to a silly bit of angry name calling from some dude in the bad with money thread)
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Hello Car Buying Thread (and a bunch of familiar faces from BFC, apparently)  My wife and I are expecting this spring and we've decided to replace our much-loved but definitely aging 2006 Chrysler Pacifica. We've talked about it some and I've done some initial comparison shopping online but I know this is the place to get set straight. Here is what's guiding our search: Proposed Budget Would really like to stay under $15,000, and $20,000 is a hard upper limit New or Used No strong preference, although I'd like to stay under approx. 40,000 miles if we go used Body Style We prefer hatchbacks and would rather go smaller than larger. Think Kia Soul, Honda Fit, etc. How will you be using the car? We are a one car household and only put ~7,500 miles on the car a year. A lot of that driving is in town, although there are a handful of trips each year to destinations that are 200-300 miles away. We will need to accommodate a car seat, but it will be rare that we have more than two adults in the car, and even rarer to have extra adults with luggage for long trips. We also pack pretty light when we travel, although of course that's going to change to an extent when we have a baby. We don't have a need to tow things. What aspects are most important to you? Several things, in no particular order: -We are not car people, so something reliable and low maintenance is important -Getting better gas mileage than the Pacifica's 17/23 is important, although that's not going to be hard in the class we're considering -Size: we want to buy as much car as we "need" but no more. Something small but roomy, ideally. It has to be able to take a car seat and accommodate my 6'3" height, but we have no need for a third row of seats or a gigantic trunk. -My wife has said "safety" but couldn't really define that further. It's my understanding that everything available on the market is "safe" by US standards, yet I see car sites assigning different ratings to cars and I don't know where these gradations are coming from. Guidance on this point is appreciated. What aspects are most important to you? -Basically the only car we would reject aesthetically is the Scion. Otherwise, whatever. -I don't care about bells and whistles. Smart assisted braking and stuff like that is cool, I guess, but I don't need automatic parking or a digital screen etc. Location Central Illinois. We get a moderate amount of snow in the winter, but we never have to deal with hills. This car is going to live outside under a porte cochere. Hopefully that's enough to get started. Appreciate any suggestions or clarifying questions. pig slut lisa fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Aug 20, 2018 |
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You say small, but a kid and a Kia Soul sounds miserable. Although I guess I've never had a Kia Soul, or a kid for that matter. I would look slightly larger, Prius or Mazda 3 hatchback.
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I managed with my infant from 2mo-12mo in my Chevy Spark, but I'm the weirdo that didn't think it was cramped and liked being able to reach back and pick up dropped poo poo. The criteria there is pretty generous, so I'd start with the old thread standby of newest affordable Prius year and see if that works for you. If not, you can start refining and see if you really want a hatch or a crossover style car. You can probably buy like a Kia Niro or a Rav4 in your price range that's pretty recent, for example. The 40k mileage is something to look at. Average is like 10-15k per year of ownership, so that puts you at something within 3-5 years if you're just going by that alone. FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 05:08 on Aug 20, 2018 |
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Internet Explorer posted:You say small, but a kid and a Kia Soul sounds miserable. Although I guess I've never had a Kia Soul, or a kid for that matter. I would look slightly larger, Prius or Mazda 3 hatchback. No, you're absolutely right. For most of the first year of parenthood we had a Mazdaspeed3 and even *that* was really too small. Modern rear-facing infant seats are loving huge. My wife spent that same time period with her seat all the way forward to fit the drat baby bucket. On the flip side, I would not sweat the mileage on the odometer. It's just a number as long as the vehicle has been maintained well. I think at your price point trying to stick under 40k miles could be difficult for some of what might be your best choices. Also, with as little as you drive, fuel mileage and ongoing maintenance costs will be low no matter what.
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Internet Explorer posted:You say small, but a kid and a Kia Soul sounds miserable. Although I guess I've never had a Kia Soul, or a kid for that matter. I would look slightly larger, Prius or Mazda 3 hatchback. I've never been inside a Kia Soul, so I definitely want to test drive one before I go any farther towards considering it. I saw that the Soul ended up on a top 10 list from Edmunds and Parents magazine the past couple years, so I figured it's worth a look. Prius is definitely on our radar as well, and your post prompted me to take a look at the Mazda 3 and that definitely seems like a possibility. FilthyImp posted:I managed with my infant from 2mo-12mo in my Chevy Spark, but I'm the weirdo that didn't think it was cramped and liked being able to reach back and pick up dropped poo poo. Good point about being able to reach back! FilthyImp posted:The 40k mileage is something to look at. Average is like 10-15k per year of ownership, so that puts you at something within 3-5 years if you're just going by that alone. IOwnCalculus posted:On the flip side, I would not sweat the mileage on the odometer. It's just a number as long as the vehicle has been maintained well. I think at your price point trying to stick under 40k miles could be difficult for some of what might be your best choices. This is useful to hear. Not knowing much about cars, 40K seemed like a good heuristic for a car that's more likely to still be in good shape. I know there are plenty of 60K-80K cars that are well-maintained, so I just need to learn more about how to tell that that's so. IOwnCalculus posted:No, you're absolutely right. For most of the first year of parenthood we had a Mazdaspeed3 and even *that* was really too small. Yeah, I've noticed this from seeing my sister and other parents navigate these seats. When I get to the test drive stage I'm going to call dealerships to see if they have a sample car seat so we can at least get a general feel.
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I really like the Kia Niro and in Europe it is a lot less expensive than the alternative Toyota's. Anyone got one? Currently driving a company car but might switch company to another where no car is included. It would be used as a daily driver in the city and for some long car holidays and with new diesel regulations coming I don't think diesel will be very attractive when I eventually sell the car 7-10 years down the line.
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Car seats vary somewhat in size, shape and utility. I would recommend that you figure out what car seat you want, buy it, and then take it around with you to fit it in vehicles to see how it will work.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Car seats vary somewhat in size, shape and utility. I would recommend that you figure out what car seat you want, buy it, and then take it around with you to fit it in vehicles to see how it will work. Hmmm...this seems a little backward to me, like the $200 decision would end up driving the $20,000 decision and not the other way around. It seems like there are lots of lists online when you Google "recommended car seats for [make model]" that we could make use of. I hadn't even thought about choosing between the dozens of possible car seat choices yet... 
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The $200 decision protects your kid, and that's worth more than $20k. edit: cars.com does car seat fit reviews, type the model of the car plus 'car seat check' and one of their reviews usually shows up. If I were you, I'd look at used CRV. TheWevel fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Aug 20, 2018 |
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pig slut lisa posted:Hmmm...this seems a little backward to me, like the $200 decision would end up driving the $20,000 decision and not the other way around. It seems like there are lots of lists online when you Google "recommended car seats for [make model]" that we could make use of. The problem is that all of the highly recommended rear facing car seats are enormous. If you're willing to spend $500 or $600 on a carseat, you can get a little less bulk. The nicer car-seats will have adjustable recline angle and you'll get some of that space back as your kid gets older, stronger, and is able to sit more upright while rear-facing comfortably. You really should be keeping kids rear-facing until they are tall or over 45 lbs, so you're going to be dealing with a rear facing car seat for years and years to come. I'm currently doing the rear-facing carseat dance in a Fiesta and a Focus, and we're going to try and make it work with two! Good thing my driving position has always been pretty forward anyway.
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TheWevel posted:The $200 decision protects your kid, and that's worth more than $20k. Oh man, this is the most brutal part of having kids. Every purchase you make, "spend extra or you're cheaping out on your kid's LIFE" gets thrown in your face Don't let the 200 decision drive the 20k decision
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I'm poking around cars.com in between calls at work and I found The Respectful Gamer Dealership
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pig slut lisa posted:I'm poking around cars.com in between calls at work and I found The Respectful Gamer Dealership GoGoGadgetChris posted:*tips sunroof* Lol
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Oh man, this is the most brutal part of having kids. Every purchase you make, "spend extra or you're cheaping out on your kid's LIFE" gets thrown in your face it's not a dollar question, it's a convenience and quality of life question. most carseats you have to take in and put out, some are integrated with stroller systems, etc. i would prefer that to be optimized than say, buy Generic Compact CUV X over Generic Compact CUV Y.
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Ah. My eyes glaze over CUV chat so I assumed people were talking him out of a good car and into a CUV on the basis of baby carrier ease.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Oh man, this is the most brutal part of having kids. Every purchase you make, "spend extra or you're cheaping out on your kid's LIFE" gets thrown in your face Your requirements are generally pretty lax. Gas mileage and reliability aren't huge factors since you won't be driving it that much. I.e. the difference between 30 and 35 mpg is going to be less than $100 per year in gasoline. That's not nothing, but it's not a lot compared to everything else. So the convenience of being able to get a car seat in and out easily actually is worth considering. You're going to hate the car if it's a pain in the rear end.
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Deteriorata posted:
And yet the baby gets a free pass
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Get a car seat that detaches out of the car base and can be placed in a stroller. This is important.
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euphronius posted:Get a car seat that detaches out of the car base and can be placed in a stroller. This is important. I'm picturing a motorcycle sidecar but I don't think it's what you're describing??
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:I'm picturing a motorcycle sidecar but I don't think it's what you're describing?? They make baby buckets that click into different bases. One you belt into your car, one is the bottom half of a stroller. Congrats, you get your kid from the stroller to the car and back without re-belting them. I don't think the front-to-rear length of a rear-facing infant-compatible seat varies that much between makes/models, but I also wouldn't expect a dealership to have one just laying around. And since it's at least somewhat related... instead of buying a seat that tries to cover as many different stages as possible, focus on one that does that you want it to do and does it well. Jack of all trades seats inevitably suck rear end in at least one mode.
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I'm driving a KIA Soul with 2 kids as a rental for few more days. I'm surprised how much I like it. The handling is my favorite part but my kids are very young and I imagine it would start feeling a bit cramped if they were older than 5. Things I like: Road handling. This model has Eco, Sport, and Normal but I imagine these have to do with fuel and power more than anything Good view in front and sides, blind spots are very small Spedometer looks really modern. Kinda hard to explain but I don't feel like I'm staring at a plastic wall with dials, it looks pitch black and all I see is floating lights. see image below Things I don't like: Engine looks cramped, I'd hate to have to replace anything beyond an alternator. However being a rental I haven't looked from the bottom Some of the internal pieces feel cheap to me, there's a big huge black styrofoam insert in the trunk. Not sure what year I'm driving but looks like this, some other images on google suggest that older models don't have this layout. 
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pig slut lisa posted:I've never been inside a Kia Soul, so I definitely want to test drive one before I go any farther towards considering it. I saw that the Soul ended up on a top 10 list from Edmunds and Parents magazine the past couple years, so I figured it's worth a look. quote:This is useful to hear. Not knowing much about cars, 40K seemed like a good heuristic for a car that's more likely to still be in good shape. I know there are plenty of 60K-80K cars that are well-maintained, so I just need to learn more about how to tell that that's so. Twerk from Home posted:The problem is that all of the highly recommended rear facing car seats are enormous. (something like this: http://a.co/d29MWZk) We just unhook the carrier and toss it in the car we're taking/stroller. On a few occasions we just tossed the carrier into the bed of a shopping cart because we didn't want to wake the kid or were lazy as gently caress. My wife upgraded to a 3-in-1 Evenflo that was on sale at Costco and that is much harder to manage in her i3. The suicide doors, toddler size, and relatively small space between the seatback and safety seat means we have to be a bit more careful than in a sedan. And now we get to add the new infant to that mess, but the giant duo stroller won't fit in the i3 so it's probably all sedantime now.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:man i live in a weird world where a kia soul is lauded for its handling If all you've ever driven is old Camries or Explorers or something I guess it makes sense though? Like sure it's not "great" handling in the grand scheme, but compared to most of the market it probably tends more toward the "good" side than the "bad" side.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:man i live in a weird world where a kia soul is lauded for its handling The first time I drove my sister's '95 SL1, I had never driven anything that was not a truck. By comparison that turd felt like a loving gokart. FilthyImp posted:Haven't been in a Soul myself, but I'd wager that it's partly due to the ease of being able to get into the rear seats. It looks like the Soul is higher than a sedan, so you won't be having to bend over awkwardly to stuff the kids in a car seat, and the relatively open middle there probably means you can pull out the seat with little hassle. The styling in the rear also likely lets you grab your car set without having to futz with the fabric or wheels getting caught up in an average trunk. Not sure on all the safety jazz. Forgot to consider this. Upright seating can make a huge difference here. My MS3 and CR-V occupied nearly identical amounts of space in therms of length/width footprint, but the interior volume between the two is night and day. The same baby bucket that meant the passenger seat was full forward in the MS3, could fit in any of the rear seat positions with both front seats full back on the CR-V.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:man i live in a weird world where a kia soul is lauded for its handling It generally is. Car and Driver loves it.
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Deteriorata posted:It generally is. i have driven numerous kia souls and have never thought oh man this is a good handing car
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:i have driven numerous kia souls and have never thought oh man this is a good handing car Yeah but aren't you a fellow of Means who probably has driven many cars that are expensive and fast?
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