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Murphy Brown was a good show. Hasn't aged a bit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR8tzjXsRa0 lemonadesweetheart has a new favorite as of 17:54 on Aug 21, 2018 |
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It had it's ear to the political sphere, something not really any other sitcom at the time ever did (and few do today). That kind of granted it a huge audience alone.
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Aug 21, 2018 17:51
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Krispy Wafer posted:Did Murphy Brown have a kickass lead-in show to explain its success and longevity? According to Wikipedia, it was at 9:00 on Mondays wedged between Heartland and Designing Women. Although NBC and ABC were both airing Monday night movies (or Monday Night Football), at that time slot in 1988, so there wasn't any competition. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988%E2%80%9389_United_States_network_television_schedule It's kinda weird to think that Monday night at 9:00 programming on two of the big 3 networks consisted of nothing but movies movies until 1997. EDIT: Also I just discovered that in 1988, both Alf and The Wonder Years were tied in ratings 
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Aug 21, 2018 18:09
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ALF was good
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Aug 21, 2018 18:20
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It's funny how boiled down MWC has values that are way more good and useful to society than any saccharine 80s and 90s sitcom I mean the Bundys were all about loyalty, perseverance and cleverness which are things that are infinitely more important than anything full house could instill
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Aug 21, 2018 18:24
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If I remember rightly wasn't Murphy Brown's heinous crime, (in Dan Quayles eyes), to be a *gasp* single working mother?
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Aug 21, 2018 18:25
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lemonadesweetheart posted:Murphy Brown was a good show. So the concept of the show is she's an unlikeable bitch? I'm not seeing how this ran for so long.
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Aug 21, 2018 18:26
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BrigadierSensible posted:If I remember rightly wasn't Murphy Brown's heinous crime, (in Dan Quayles eyes), to be a *gasp* single working mother? Also she used weed to recover from chemotherapy.
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Aug 21, 2018 18:28
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BrigadierSensible posted:If I remember rightly wasn't Murphy Brown's heinous crime, (in Dan Quayles eyes), to be a *gasp* single working mother? It didn't help that she was a career driven woman
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Aug 21, 2018 18:32
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nonathlon posted:
As in the dumbasses who thought Beavis and Butthead were "celebrating bad behavior", when it was mockery. And even worse, dumbasses who thought what they saw would be fun to emulate.
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Aug 21, 2018 18:42
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Sunswipe posted:So the concept of the show is she's an unlikeable bitch? I'm not seeing how this ran for so long. She seems like an Aaron Sorkin character.
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Aug 21, 2018 18:48
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I still say MwC was a better representation of a blue collar family than Rosanne was.
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Aug 21, 2018 19:20
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Krispy Wafer posted:Did Murphy Brown have a kickass lead-in show to explain its success and longevity? There's a wiki page about that, because of-loving-course there is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990%E2%80%9391_United_States_network_television_schedule
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Aug 21, 2018 19:24
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The Murphy Brown/Dan Quayle thing was about Murphy Brown thinking a father wasn’t necessary. As long as the other parent isn’t a terrible abusive person, it’s generally considered better to have two parents. I think that’s what Quayle was talking about and it somehow became a media spat even though I’m not sure if either of them ever made more than one or two statements on it. Back then it was still novel to hear a President or VP acknowledge something in pop culture. Not like how when we know the POTUS opinion on Batman. Davros1 posted:I still say MwC was a better representation of a blue collar family than Rosanne was. Really? Rosanne hit home for us more often than MwC, especially when it came to working dead-end jobs and aspiring to open your own business only to fail miserably. But without MwC there probably wouldn’t have been a Rosanne. Also MwC wasn’t blue collar. Neito posted:There's a wiki page about that, because of-loving-course there is: loving bookmarked. I love how inane Wikipedia can be.
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Aug 21, 2018 19:36
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MwC was very much like the Addams Family in that here was a seemingly messed up family who were actually much more relatable than the typical sitcom family. Al Bundy might have been a pig, and Gomez Addams might have been a psychopath, but either one would gently caress your world up if you messed with their family and that's way more close to reality than a heartwarming dad talk with soft music.
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Aug 21, 2018 20:04
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Krispy Wafer posted:The Murphy Brown/Dan Quayle thing was about Murphy Brown thinking a father wasn’t necessary. I believe Candice Bergen later said she didn't necessarily disagree with Quayle but it was more amusing to poke fun at him.
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Aug 21, 2018 20:05
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I think what really gets me is what a poster said a few posts back, but expanded: TV movies (either made-for or syndication) were really a huge thing basically right up until the '00s. I kinda miss Bad Movie Sunday with my mom, for example. I blame the FCC removing commercial time limits on that one, and the death of good first-run and off-network syndication on Saturday afternoons.
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Aug 21, 2018 20:14
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I think that's how the Olsen twins made their fortune. I remember going to Blockbuster and there were rows and rows of lovely movies like "Mary Kate and Ashley in Rome" etc.
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Aug 21, 2018 20:16
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Sunswipe posted:I would like to know more. After the defense finds out about the sticky note, the detectives try to find out if it's true. A lot of scenes where people throw around the word retarded willy-nilly follow until they find a porn tape where the woman on the cover is posed like the old lady victim who was killed. A trail commences with the defense trying to prove he's slow. The prosecution then ask if he thinks he's retarded and he ends up confessing to raping and killing the old lady (he was a mainfenance guy and the old lady was tied to the bed because she was robbed before he got there) because he thought she wanted to have sex. Cragen gets mad because he thinks the killer got off easy and the episode ends with the psychologist taking the killer to a dirty mental institution. The killer sobs no as the episode fades to black. Standard SVU episode.
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Aug 21, 2018 20:20
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Speaking of SVU, about 4-6 years ago I think there was an attempt during a new season to make the show more like the Cable TV crime dramas, so they had the arc of Benson getting kidnapped by some crazy guy and it getting really dark and gross. The show was going to be more serialized and gritty with the detectives being more personally invovlved. I've been out of the loop, but they didn't keep this tone, did they? The only reason I even remember this arc right now is I saw about 4 minutes of an episode on ION a few days ago and between the scene of Benson being kidnapped, Rawllins is reading off the perps stats and past behavior in the same way someone would detail a Goku vs. Superman fight.
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Aug 21, 2018 20:34
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Gaunab posted:After the defense finds out about the sticky note, the detectives try to find out if it's true. A lot of scenes where people throw around the word retarded willy-nilly follow until they find a porn tape where the woman on the cover is posed like the old lady victim who was killed. A trail commences with the defense trying to prove he's slow. The prosecution then ask if he thinks he's retarded and he ends up confessing to raping and killing the old lady (he was a mainfenance guy and the old lady was tied to the bed because she was robbed before he got there) because he thought she wanted to have sex. Cragen gets mad because he thinks the killer got off easy and the episode ends with the psychologist taking the killer to a dirty mental institution. The killer sobs no as the episode fades to black. Oh yeah, I remember that one now. They made it really rough for everyone involved. Like, the rapist killer guy was this mentally challenged guy who was like, high functioning so he hid that he had absolutely no idea how real people interact, but he was only just smart enough to realize how lovely of a situation his criminal insanity plea put him in at the end.
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Aug 21, 2018 20:36
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JediTalentAgent posted:Speaking of SVU, about 4-6 years ago I think there was an attempt during a new season to make the show more like the Cable TV crime dramas, so they had the arc of Benson getting kidnapped by some crazy guy and it getting really dark and gross. The show was going to be more serialized and gritty with the detectives being more personally invovlved. SVU is always supposed to have been the grim and gritty serialized personal drama one with varying levels of success. I haven't been watching it enough to know if they kept the tone period but they did have a season after the one you describe where they ran around collecting a serial killer's victims and trophies for some reason, so they sure tried.
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Aug 21, 2018 20:40
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Stairs posted:MwC was very much like the Addams Family in that here was a seemingly messed up family who were actually much more relatable than the typical sitcom family. Al Bundy might have been a pig, and Gomez Addams might have been a psychopath, but either one would gently caress your world up if you messed with their family and that's way more close to reality than a heartwarming dad talk with soft music. Gomez wasn't a psychopath. The point of the Addams family was that they were your typical sitcom family but really loving weird. They were actually very nice people but absurdly odd. He was rich because for whatever reason he was completely incapable of failing. They had macabre and unusual tastes but never wanted to actually hurt anybody. They just failed to understand normal society. A lot of the humor was about that misunderstanding. They freaked people right the hell out but anybody that bothered to get past appearances actually grew to like them.
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Aug 21, 2018 21:26
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Gomez wasn't a psychopath. The point of the Addams family was that they were your typical sitcom family but really loving weird. They were actually very nice people but absurdly odd. He was rich because for whatever reason he was completely incapable of failing. They had macabre and unusual tastes but never wanted to actually hurt anybody. They just failed to understand normal society. Smh if Gomez and Morticia aren't your relationship goals.
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Aug 21, 2018 22:09
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Healthiest drat relationship on TV. And unlike The Munsters they owned who they were. No trying to blend in with regular humans they were weird and had no shame.
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Aug 21, 2018 22:24
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Also Wednesday had some sick dance moves.
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Aug 21, 2018 22:29
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Smh if Gomez and Morticia aren't your relationship goals. Right? God willing me and my wife are so happy when she's an immortal vampire goddess and I'm an extremely horny Olympic quality fencer.
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Aug 21, 2018 22:47
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purple death ray posted:Right? God willing me and my wife are so happy when she's an immortal vampire goddess and I'm an extremely horny Olympic quality fencer. You're like 25% of the way there!
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Aug 21, 2018 23:32
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One thing about Married that hasn't aged well: The fat women who are the butt of his jokes are mostly slightly thinner than the average American woman these days.
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Aug 21, 2018 23:34
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spog posted:One thing about Married that hasn't aged well: There are a bunch of jokes about Peggy’s mother being like 300lbs, and therefore so massive she couldn’t leave Wanker County. MWC has aged surprisingly well though for a show that looks so horrifically late 80s.
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Aug 22, 2018 01:39
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SEX BURRITO posted:There are a bunch of jokes about Peggy’s mother being like 300lbs, and therefore so massive she couldn’t leave Wanker County. Originally the plan was that she would be played by divine. Then divine died. Peg's mom stayed an unseen character after that.
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Aug 22, 2018 02:03
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Originally the plan was that she would be played by divine. Then divine died. Peg's mom stayed an unseen character after that. The way John Waters tells it in his live shows, Divine was supposed to be a "wacky gay uncle" character that would have been super revolutionary for the time in US television, but well, he died like, less than a month before they started shooting, so they completely just erased the character rather than recast.
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Aug 22, 2018 02:05
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Gomez wasn't a psychopath. The point of the Addams family was that they were your typical sitcom family but really loving weird. They were actually very nice people but absurdly odd. He was rich because for whatever reason he was completely incapable of failing. They had macabre and unusual tastes but never wanted to actually hurt anybody. They just failed to understand normal society. IIRC the Addams are ludicrously wealthy from inherited fortune to the point where they get worried if they actually make any money. But yeah, most of the joke of the Addams Family is that they're incredibly weird people whose values are often the opposite of those espoused by mainstream society, which of course makes for some nice social commentary at times.
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Aug 22, 2018 02:19
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JediTalentAgent posted:Speaking of SVU, about 4-6 years ago I think there was an attempt during a new season to make the show more like the Cable TV crime dramas, so they had the arc of Benson getting kidnapped by some crazy guy and it getting really dark and gross. The show was going to be more serialized and gritty with the detectives being more personally invovlved. The one episode of SVU I never watched completely from beginning to end involved a big kid raping and killing someone, and it turns out he was bullied into doing by a little weasel kid, and that came out on the stand, so the mom of the big fat kid goes "we're not talking a plea, this is going to make him walk" and instead the fat kid gets 30-life? or something and the detectives look at the mom like she's a bad mother. In conclusion, SVU is terrible and it amazing it is still on the air.
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Aug 22, 2018 02:27
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SEX BURRITO posted:There are a bunch of jokes about Peggy’s mother being like 300lbs, and therefore so massive she couldn’t leave Wanker County. For a while she lived with the Bundys and ran a phone sex line.
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Aug 22, 2018 02:29
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JediTalentAgent posted:Speaking of SVU, about 4-6 years ago I think there was an attempt during a new season to make the show more like the Cable TV crime dramas, so they had the arc of Benson getting kidnapped by some crazy guy and it getting really dark and gross. The show was going to be more serialized and gritty with the detectives being more personally invovlved. Yeah, this was the arc they did in 2013 with Pablo Schreiber as the kidnapper/murderer/rapist and it was loving insane. It culminates with him getting brained by Benson with like a piece of pipe, and then him acting as his own lawyer in court, hobbling around with an anakin skywalker scar on his face yelling about police brutality. He ends up getting acquitted on several of the charges
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Aug 22, 2018 02:44
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In recent news it looks like The Heart Is Deceitful Above All Things has suddenly aged very poorly.
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Aug 22, 2018 03:06
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Never mind, Asia Argento is kind of hosed up, it seems. For those curious, Argento got a 17 year old drunk, hosed him, then had Anthony Bourdain pay him $380,000. Leave has a new favorite as of 03:20 on Aug 22, 2018 |
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Aug 22, 2018 03:14
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Nckdictator posted:In recent news it looks like The Heart Is Deceitful Above All Things has suddenly aged very poorly. It's actually a documentary I guess
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Remember the episode where Al goes to hell and it's better than his life and he doesn't want to leave? That's a good one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkyvsckUjtE
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