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Y'all are burying the lede here which is that CHUCKIE T AND THE BEST FRIENDS ARE COMING BACK 
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 Destruction tour info: ROAD TO DESTRUCTION September 7th at 5:30 EDT/10:30 BST Korakuen Hall Shota Umino and Ren Narita vs. BC Elite (Yujiro Takahashi and Chase Owens) Juice, Elgin, Finlay, and Ayato Yoshida vs. BC OG (Fale, GoD, and Ishimori) Toa Henare vs. Beretta CHAOS (Hirooki Goto and Gedo) vs. Suzuki-gun (Taichi and TAKA) L.I.J vs. Suzuki-gun (MiSu, Iizuka, Kanemaru, and Despy) Hiroshi Tanahashi and GBH vs. CHAOS (Kazuchika Okada, Toru Yano, and YOSHI-HASHI CHAOS (Tomohiro Ishii and Will Ospreay vs. Golden Lovers ROAD TO DESTRUCTION September 8th at 5:30 EDT/10:30 BST Korakuen Hall Shota Umino and Yuya Uemura vs. Yota Tsuji and Ren Narita Ayato Yoshida vs. Chase Owens Makabe, Elgin, Finlay, and Henare vs. BC OG (Fale, GoD, and Ishimori) CHAOS (Hirooki Goto and YOSHI-HASHI) vs. Suzuki-gun (Taichi and Yoshinobu Kanemaru) L.I.J vs. Suzuki-gun (MiSu, Iizuka, Desperado, and TAKA) CHAOS (Tomohiro Ishii, Toru Yano and Will Ospreay) vs. Golden Lovers and Yujiro Yakahashi Hiroshi Tanahashi and Juice Robinson vs. CHAOS (Kazuchika Okda and Beretta) ROAD TO DESTRUCTION September 9th at 4:00 EDT/9:00 BST Togane Arena, Chiba Yota Tsuji vs. Yua Uemura Elgin, Yoshida, Umino, and Narita vs. BC OG (Fale, GoD, and Ishimori) CHAOS (Hirooki Goto and Gedo) vs. Suzuki-gun (Taichi and El Desperado) L.I.J vs. Suzuki-gun (MiSu, Iizuka, Kanemaru, and TAKA) Hiroshi Tanahashi and Toa Henare vs. CHAOS (Kazuchika Okada and YOSHI-HASHI) CHAOS (Ishii, YTR, Beretta, and Ospreay) vs. Omega, Ibushi, Yujiro, and Chase Satoshi Kojima Comeback Match:TenCozy, Nagata, and Nakanishi vs. GBH, Juice, and Finlay DESTRUCTION IN HIROSHIMA September 15th at 5:00 EDT/10:00 BST Hiroshima Sun Plaza Hall KUSHIDA, Jushin Liger, and Tiger Mask IV vs. Roppongi 3K Toa Henare vs. Bad Luck Fale Michael Elgin and Ayato Yoshida vs. Killer Elite Squad CHAOS (Will Ospreay and Best Friends) vs. Kota Ibushi, Yujiro Takahashi, and Chase Owens NEVER Trios ChampionshipBC OG(c) (GoD and Ishimori) vs. Juice Robinson, David Finlay, and Ryusuke Taguchi L.I.J vs. Suzuki-gun (MiSu, ZSJ, Despy, and TAKA) Hiroshi Tanahashi and GBH vs. CHAOS (Kazuchika Okada, Jay White, and YOSHI-HASHI) IWGP Heavyweight Championship:Kenny Omega(c) vs. Tomohiro Ishii DESTRUCTION IN BEPPU September 17th at 5:00 EDT/10:00 BST Beppu B-Con Hall, Oita TenCozy and Yota Tsuji vs. Yuji Nagata, Manabu Nakanishi, and Yuya Uemura David Finlay and Ren Narita vs. Toa Henare and Shota Umino KUSHIDA, Taguchi, Liger, and TMIV vs. CHAOS (Will Ospreay and Roppongi 3K) Best Friends vs. Killer Elite Squad L.I.J (EVIL, SANADA, and BUSHI) vs. Suzuki-gun (ZSJ, Kanemaru, and Desperado) Tanahashi, Juice, and GBH vs. CHAOS (Okada, White, YTR, and Y-H) NEVER Openweight ChampionshipHirooki Goto(c) vs. Taichi Special Singles MatchTetsuya Naito vs. Minoru Suzuki DESTRUCTION IN KOBE September 23rd at 3:00 EDT/8:00 BST Kobe World Hall Yota Tsuji vs. Yuya Uemura Shota Umino and Ren Narita vs. Roppongi 3K Jushin Liger and Tiger Mask IV vs. Suzuki-gun (Yoshinobu Kanemaru and El Desperado) GBH, Taguchi, and Yoshida vs. TenCozy, Nagata, and Nakanishi Best Friends vs. Killer Elite Squad Juice Robinson. David Finlay, and Toa Henare vs. CHAOS (Jay White, YOSHI-HASHI, and Will Ospreay) L.I.J (Tetsuya Naito, EVIL, and SANADA) vs. Suzuki-gun (Minoru Suzuki, ZSJ, and TAKA) IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Championship Semi-finals:KUSHIDA vs. BUSHI WK13 IWGP Championship Challenge Certificate:Hiroshi Tanahashi(c) vs. Kazuchika Okada FIGHTING SPIRIT UNLEASHED Sepember 30th at 8:00 PM EDT/1:00 AM BST Walter Pyramid, Long Beach CA IWGP Jr Heavyweight Championship Semi-Finals:Will Ospreay vs. Marty Scurll IWGP Tag Championship:Young Bucks(c) vs. Guerillas of Destiny IWGP US Championship:Juice Robinson(c) vs. Cody rest of card tba Thauros fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Aug 20, 2018 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGTfl1s5pdc The last 2 minutes completely worth it for Okada/Marty build
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Aug 20, 2018 13:50
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Chris James 2 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGTfl1s5pdc Okada making 205 with his hands 
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STONE COLD 64 posted:he has been working a lot safer though Chris James 2 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGTfl1s5pdc  Also a Mark (and Vicky) Haskins sighting! Looking forward to see who will tell Marty he's hosed next. Rarity posted:Okada making 205 with his hands
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Couple thoughts on the Jr tournament: - Hiromu  - I like the four. Wouldn't have minded seeing Taguchi in there. - I think Ospreay is moving up soon and I'm sorta feeling Ospreay vs Ibushi at WK13 if Ibushi doesn't win the belt. So rather than him I would honestly put Kushida over then have him drop to Ishimori at WK13... - And hopefully Hiromu will be better by BoSJ '19 and you can run Hiromu/Ishimori 2 IN THE OSAKA DOME, HAROLD.
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jesus WEP posted:Jr title’s been vacated also, here's hiromu's beautiful weird letter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x1KN-xrs3c (it's also linked in that tweet, but you should watch it, seriously) 
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Aug 20, 2018 16:26
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does Jericho have a rumored return date yet or is it just gonna be Wrestle Kingdom at this point
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I appreciate Hiromu going through the trouble of having his short subtitled for American fans
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Aug 20, 2018 17:13
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Bard Maddox posted:does Jericho have a rumored return date yet or is it just gonna be Wrestle Kingdom at this point I wasn't really getting my hopes up for a Destruction match, but if he doesn't at least work KoPW then gently caress this whole thing and I hope he just gets lost after Wk13.
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Aug 20, 2018 17:19
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Yeah It needs to be around otherwise you get the Brock Lesnar problem of people poodling around without a belt to fight over.
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minoru-san on twitter pointed out that he has a space in his schedule around kopw. wonder if they'll do kenny vs kota for the title or just headline it with an ic match?
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Aug 20, 2018 18:04
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oh hell yeah the newer young lions are back!!
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Aug 20, 2018 18:10
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Its gonna be real sad if they use Jericho to quietly retire the IC belt after so many people worked so hard to make it as equally prestigious as the Heavyweight title.
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LionYeti posted:Yeah It needs to be around otherwise you get the Brock Lesnar problem of people poodling around without a belt to fight over. There's so many belts that this is not a problem.
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Aug 20, 2018 18:24
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I like Chris Jericho the wrestler, and I want to see him wrestle again
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Aug 20, 2018 19:16
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coconono posted:Its gonna be real sad if they use Jericho to quietly retire the IC belt after so many people worked so hard to make it as equally prestigious as the Heavyweight title. No problem, Juice can just do the same for the US title. Also, 'so many people' is a weird way of spelling 'Shinsuke Nakamura'
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Aug 20, 2018 21:07
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Gaz-L posted:No problem, Juice can just do the same for the US title. Nakamura Naito Omega Tanahashi Tanaka all had a turn and had good defenses with it. I'd argue Goto too but this forum has a strong Goto disrespect bias.
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Nakamura held it for the better part of 2 years (with Almas/La Sombra briefly in the middle) before Tanahashi even sniffed at it, and Tana's first IC title win was in the main event at the Dome. At that point the belt's pretty much defined as being a top level thing. So I'll maybe give you the Ace as contributing, but Omega and Naito were well after it's bona fides were established.
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The run with Naito disrespecting the old white belt - and then Tanahashi cleaning it up - was also pretty glorious. If anything, the NEVER singles belt needs to be retired, and the US can hold steady as mid-card. The IC is still valuable as a second main title, and yes Jericho needs to
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With Tana putting the challenge ticket up against Okada, do you think there's any chance they pull the trigger on that changing hands? They have the G1 winner put thier case up every year, it stands to reason that there could be a non-disaster bailout circumstance where they actually have him drop it, and I could imagine much worse than this one
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Sanguinia posted:With Tana putting the challenge ticket up against Okada, do you think there's any chance they pull the trigger on that changing hands? They have the G1 winner put thier case up every year, it stands to reason that there could be a non-disaster bailout circumstance where they actually have him drop it, and I could imagine much worse than this one I guess if you want to make people mad at Okada. But that's not the story they're telling. Okada beat Tana earlier this year and then they went to a draw at the G1. Okada not being champ is making him loopy and Tana has one last ride of being the Ace of the company. If Okada beats Tana it sort of ruins both stories they're telling.
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Also if we're working on the assumption that Kenny keeps the belt going into January (pretty safe assumption, as awesome as Ishii main eventing the Tokyo Dome would be) then I don't think they're going to do Okada/Omega V until at least like, Sakura Genesis at the absolute earliest.
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Sanguinia posted:With Tana putting the challenge ticket up against Okada, do you think there's any chance they pull the trigger on that changing hands? They have the G1 winner put thier case up every year, it stands to reason that there could be a non-disaster bailout circumstance where they actually have him drop it, and I could imagine much worse than this one The question about changing the ticket is always the same one: "Why not just have that guy win the G1 instead?"
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VJeff posted:The question about changing the ticket is always the same one: "Why not just have that guy win the G1 instead?" Winning the G1 is still a massive career achievement, arguably a bigger deal than getting the Dome main event (the briefcase gimmick didn't even exist until a few years ago), and I don't think losing the case necessarily lessens the prestige of coming out on top in that grueling month-long grind.
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And you can make a case this year that Tanahashi winning is 100% the right call given the build and crowd reaction and also make a case that he may not be the guy to main event the dome (He should though, he should 100% main event the dome and win)
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VJeff posted:The question about changing the ticket is always the same one: "Why not just have that guy win the G1 instead?" Depends on what the storyline is. Like what if Jay White won the G1 by ref bumping his way to the top of the mountain. You can't possibly have Jay White headline the Dome, so you'd use the ticket to get to your real main event and have Jay White get his comeuppence.
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SatoshiMiwa posted:And you can make a case this year that Tanahashi winning is 100% the right call given the build and crowd reaction and also make a case that he may not be the guy to main event the dome (He should though, he should 100% main event the dome and win) Tana's time is over, this is the age of The Cleaner 
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Strawberry Panda posted:I guess if you want to make people mad at Okada. Win, draw, that pattern suggests a loss. Which means Okada could get a win back vs the Ace next year (G1?) to continue the story. Tanahashi could be the one to lose the case. He’s bulletproof, which means he’s the one you could hurt the least by taking that away. Think John Cena failing MITB. Better question is who else (non-Okada) would take it? Naito? Possible. Jay White? That’s a hell of a rocket pack Ibushi? Don’t see it Suzuki? Don’t see it Zack Sabre Jr? Real long odds, though I could see him challenging and losing (which would still continue his long-term elevation) Anybody else in CHAOS? It would signal a rocket push Anybody in LIJ? Same, though teasing it for EVIL/Sanada would be interesting (second defense?) Nobody else in Bullet Club makes sense, possibly Cody but that would even be a bit of an early rocket push. There’s only two realistic candidates, and only two, three, maybe five with a real outside shot. But it would signal NJPW going big on somebody right now, which isn’t NJPW booking.
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Sanguinia posted:Tana's time is over, this is the age of The Cleaner The Cleaner is long dead but if he were around The Ace of the Universe would easily crush him.
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Sanguinia posted:With Tana putting the challenge ticket up against Okada, do you think there's any chance they pull the trigger on that changing hands? They have the G1 winner put thier case up every year, it stands to reason that there could be a non-disaster bailout circumstance where they actually have him drop it, and I could imagine much worse than this one hes going to drop it to naito
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Nah, I think Tana goes to the Dome. Him winning the belt and carrying it to the Garden is at least a very, very solid backup plan if WWE raids ROH and NJPW in January.
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Somebody is going to be the first G1 Case challenger to topple the Champ at Wrestle Kingdom and Tana is as good a choice as any. Every year outside of maybe Stardust Genius Naito's run there have been all sorts of reasons for why the G1 winner should finally do it, and yet it still has never once happened, and you could argue that it has been the right call every time, no matter how much we all wanted Okada/Omega/Naito to win. I feel like it could be a real big deal when it finally does happen.
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remusclaw posted:Somebody is going to be the first G1 Case challenger to topple the Champ at Wrestle Kingdom and Tana is as good a choice as any. Every year outside of maybe Stardust Genius Naito's run there have been all sorts of reasons for why the G1 winner should finally do it, and yet it still has never once happened, and you could argue that it has been the right call every time, no matter how much we all wanted Okada/Omega/Naito to win. I feel like it could be a real big deal when it finally does happen. This is why Naito is going to do it. Not only will he finally win the title at the dome, but he'll do it with the G1 briefcase, AND be the first person to successfully challenge for the briefcase.
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Aug 21, 2018 22:35
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Your Parents posted:This is why Naito is going to do it. Not only will he finally win the title at the dome, but he'll do it with the G1 briefcase, AND be the first person to successfully challenge for the briefcase. Except Naito doesn't have a claim to the briefcase like Jay White (only one who beat Tana) and Okada (draw+Tana wants to beat him) do, so why would they even make that match?
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Benne posted:Except Naito doesn't have a claim to the briefcase like Jay White (only one who beat Tana) and Okada (draw+Tana wants to beat him) do, so why would they even make that match? This line of thinking sounds very not-tranquilo
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Run a fan poll for who gets the shot, Jay White vs Naito. 
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VJeff posted:Run a fan poll for who gets the shot, Fixed that for ya
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