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C.H.O.M.E. posted:thats ok my car is 15 years old and i will never buy a new one and the only thing i connect it to is my own butt i powered my old car with farts too
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Xealous posted:i powered my old car with farts too  Xealous posted:tesla basically runs their entire business like a just in time compiler only they don't treat warnings or errors as failures. most groups in the company don't cross-communicate so there's a lot of duplication of effort. the ol' post mortem trick
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for all the poo poo that went down at tesla, there were some positive aspects. everyone i worked with really cared about physical safety and we put a lot of effort into making sure the engineering was sound so nobody got hurt. if you subtract autopilot, and that's a big if, the car is generally well designed minus the fit and finish issues + interior, but i'd argue that's never been tesla's strong point anyway. the cars are fast, the 2013-2014 model s lines were really good, solid, basic cars. my last straw was the summon feature - i strongly believe a car you are not in, backing out on its own from a parking space with the current sensors is super dangerous. i was making jokes with the tesla expats when ol' musky launched his roadster into space that you could see the gaps in the fit and finish without a telescope
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redleader posted:technology is going to kill us all lol plz no black mirror spoilers
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Xealous posted:for all the poo poo that went down at tesla, there were some positive aspects. everyone i worked with really cared about physical safety and we put a lot of effort into making sure the engineering was sound so nobody got hurt. if you subtract autopilot, and that's a big if, the car is generally well designed minus what about this part: 
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lmao $100k cars should not have issues with fit and finish that haven't been since the death of british leyland
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btw thanks for posting these. they're amazing
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dick levick gives elon a sloppy beejquote:Here’s the bottom line: Don’t bet against Elon Musk. He’s an unabashed genius. And geniuses need time and (forgive the pun) space to carry out their vision.
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infernal machines posted:what about this part: how are electronic doors any better than just a regular ol' handle
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infernal machines posted:what about this part: i always carry a window buster with me no matter the car i drive, but i see your point. i won't defend everything they do anyway - that seems legit to me. so minus 1
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thanks xealous thlus
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Roosevelt posted:how are electronic doors any better than just a regular ol' handle they're very high tech
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redleader posted:btw thanks for posting these. they're amazing no problem - if you want to know anything specific (i won't violate any ndas, patents or internal arch) happy to oblige
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Xealous posted:i always carry a window buster with me no matter the car i drive, but i see your point. i won't defend everything they do anyway - that seems legit to me. so minus 1 no worries. love your posts, i just thought defending tesla on the safety front was a bit strange
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infernal machines posted:no worries. love your posts, i just thought defending tesla on the safety front was a bit strange i think i just got caught up in their collision safety. i dunno, most of us really tried our best to do things the safe way - i advocated for patching out shellshock and heartbleed across the company really hard but a lot of it fell on deaf ears for too long also advocated for switching out boards with something that had an hsm, doing hab stuff, encrypting the ssl keys the car has (they're on an unencrypted cf card, lol), mtls for everything on the backend, ipsec between components in the car, etc etc. i just gave up and quit
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Xealous posted:no problem - if you want to know anything specific (i won't violate any ndas, patents or internal arch) happy to oblige what size bed does grimes's ex-boyfriend sleep in on the factory floor
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infernal machines posted:p.s. the fremont factory is on fire quote:The fire started on a cardboard pile close to the test track, which is threatening an outside structure and sparked a grass fire, according to the Fremont Fire Department. Lol literal garbage fire. Too on the nose really. This show needs better writers.
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Suspicious Dish posted:what size bed does grimes's ex-boyfriend sleep in on the factory floor i worked out of deer creek, never really saw him in the factory. rumor is he was stealing an office and sleeping on a couch *edit - i did see John McCain in deer creek once, that was a trip. showed him some of the stuff we were working on fart-powered cars fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Aug 24, 2018 |
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mrmcd posted:Lol literal garbage fire. Too on the nose really. This show needs better writers. it's unbelievable how much reality has been stranger than fiction the last few years
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Xealous posted:i worked out of deer creek, never really saw him in the factory. rumor is he was stealing an office and sleeping on a couch haha, yes
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i still like the tesla story where the computers crash in the middle of a demo with david pogue and the car just dies on the side of the highway
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Xealous posted:no problem - if you want to know anything specific (i won't violate any ndas, patents or internal arch) happy to oblige What would describe as being the most seriously hosed up thing you saw happen there? Define hosed up any way you want to.
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just remembered some bits of trivia * they took away our free snacks in deer creek and replaced them with lovely vendors * said vendors food poisoned people often enough osha or whatever the body is shut them down * people were so mad about the free cereal being gone they'd intra-office snail mail bowls of cereal from the factory and post pictures in slack * deer creek's parking got so bad (too many people, not enough space) they hired permanent valets * they were cited for the shitshow parking for fire safety violations (unconfirmed, but i believe it) * elon publicly being a shitbag to trans people * the first time we turned on real time telemetry for the dev fleet we caught somebody going 130mph over the san mateo bridge * it networking so bad the company had permanent 5~8% consistent packet loss between various places (like, next rack) * firmware git repo so large they had to mirror it (something like 2TB)
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Source4Leko posted:What would describe as being the most seriously hosed up thing you saw happen there? Define hosed up any way you want to. internal politics. the most toxic culture i have ever encountered, heard about or worked in i swear they selected for the shittiest people in silicon valley and made them managers
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Xealous posted:for all the poo poo that went down at tesla, there were some positive aspects. everyone i worked with really cared about physical safety and we put a lot of effort into making sure the engineering was sound so nobody got hurt. if you subtract autopilot, and that's a big if, the car is generally well designed minus the fit and finish issues + interior, but i'd argue that's never been tesla's strong point anyway. the cars are fast, the 2013-2014 model s lines were really good, solid, basic cars. my last straw was the summon feature - i strongly believe a car you are not in, backing out on its own from a parking space with the current sensors is super dangerous. what about the foamy cast aluminum control arms 
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Xealous posted:* elon publicly being a shitbag to trans people christ
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Xealous posted:no problem - if you want to know anything specific (i won't violate any ndas, patents or internal arch) happy to oblige
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Peeny Cheez posted:Can you confirm/deny no tailpipe but i wouldn't be surprised if he attempted the charging port
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Endless Mike posted:lmao $100k cars should not have issues with fit and finish that haven't been since the death of british leyland depending on when and what features you got (and if you got a marketing used car) they could go as low at $40k after incentives - but totally agree with you. fit/finish issues have been a thorn in their side forever the touchscreen is kind of a safety issue in that you have to look at it to touch it, stealing focus. tactile buttons for some functions would have been better
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it's "a" tent, but not that tent, no
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Another safety issue at Tesla is that of being swatted by your CEO for pointing out that resin is being injected into the holes of unsafe lithium batteries and shipped into a bunch of customers' cars
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Dumb Lowtax posted:Another safety issue at Tesla is that of being swatted by your CEO for pointing out that resin is being injected into the holes of unsafe lithium batteries and shipped into a bunch of customers' cars some friends of mine worked with the guy, the jury is still out on that one. ol' musky isn't totally paranoid - we did catch bad actors doing stuff and they were nailed to the wall. finding a real apt in your network can be some next level poo poo
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elon shoveling all the substandard cars into the fire to cash in his insurance policy
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This thread is a blessing and now one of the best things to hit these forums in the last few years
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